HBO's Game of Thrones - - - - - Part 14

[Sawyer]

Spoiler

That should be "And" instead of "Or", though.

 

[Iceman]

So is everyone pretty much behind Tommon? Hasn't said much but his scene with Tywin makes me not want for him to share his brothers fate.

Edit, as in posters, not characters. Are people rooting for him?

So far he's a kid who's done nothing wrong and seems nothing like his brother from the answers he gave Tywin. I remember him also asking about if Joffrey was going to kill Robb in front of Sansa a fair while back. Then Cersei asks him if he'd like that and he said no. I'm definitely rooting for him until he gives me reason not to.

 

[Sawyer]

The way Tywin acted with Tommen reminded me alot of his scenes with Arya. The only difference being that he has actual expectations of Tommen, instead of being pleasantly surprised that Arya had any wits about her at all.

 

[scatterax]

I've decided not to get too attached to any of these characters anymore. They tend to die horribly.

But you don't hate him do you?

 

[Marvolo]

Im rooting for Tommen. He could actually be a good king when he gets older. Arguably better than anyone else fighting for the throne. He listens, learns, and seems humble. Plus he has Tywin instructing him. As of now he is the best thing for Westeros.

In the books he's too young and inpreshionable and his wife pretty much leads him by the ear...and it drives Cersei bonkers lmao.

 

[scatterax]

Edit

 

[Leenie]

Was not a fan with what they did with Jamie in this recent episode ...

Seriously, though: Tywin is becoming a favorite character of mine. I just find him fascinating, and Charles Dance has an amazing on-screen presence.

 

[Reek]

they are being too back and forth with jaime... love hate love hate love wtf huh what love hate why huh

 

[Reek]

Jack Gleeson: "All i did was sleep the entire filming of this episode."

You... and everyone else.

 

[Sawyer]

Shaddup, Reek.

 

[Reek]

a nice close shave sawyer...

 

[Anubis]

But you don't hate him do you?

I don't feel one way or the other for him.....though I suspect the rest of his possibly short life will be spent as a pawn in other peoples schemes.

 

[Hush]

Uh...

It's still rape. Jaime forced himself upon Cersei without her consent and when she was specifically saying not to. That she physically wants to have sex and that she enjoys it doesn't change that fact.

I would argue that it does indeed change the entire situation, he is a one handed man and she has plenty of fire to fight back. She starts kissing and ripping his clothes off just as much, these are two people who are beyond ****ed up and their relationship shows that. Though she was saying no she never always in the show just relents to Jamie and in the book it was very interesting too. I would not say that Jamie raped her in the show an that this is just rough sex with Cersei being almost turned on by the idea that Jamie is taking her at this time.

 

[Marvolo]

I would argue that it does indeed change the entire situation, he is a one handed man and she has plenty of fire to fight back. She starts kissing and ripping his clothes off just as much, these are two people who are beyond ****ed up and their relationship shows that. Though she was saying no she never always in the show just relents to Jamie and in the book it was very interesting too. I would not say that Jamie raped her in the show an that this is just rough sex with Cersei being almost turned on by the idea that Jamie is taking her at this time.

Rape or not, we cant overlook the fact that he ****ed her on the Sept floor beside his dead son. An action like that wasnt needed at this stage of Jaime's development in the show. It was a massive step back. D&D need an ass chewing for this bit of writing. They know better than this kind of crap.

The only way Ill ever be ok with it is if Jaime shows disgust at himself and stops ****ing Cersei from here on out otherwise Im pretty soured by the whole thing.

 

[Sawyer]

That piece of human s*** did something s***ty to an even s***tier person, in front of the corpse of their ultra-s***ty son. Everything is RUINED!

 

[Anubis]

THANK YOU!

Glad somebody said it.

 

[Drz]

Even Nikolaj says it's a rape.

"That's certainly George R.R. Martin at his best, at his finest hour. [chuckles] I think it's, well, we talked a lot about it, of course, 'Is it rape?' Their whole relationship has been over all those years has been a physical one and it's been about catching those moments and their love affair over those years has been condensed to those moments of passion. Everything else has been being in the same rooms and pretending. It's a weird one. And now … you'll have to watch the show.They have history, a long history. Nothing is simple. When he says, 'Why the hell did the gods make me love a hateful woman?,' I think that is at the core. A lot of dysfunctional relationships or you've seen them where you go, 'Why the hell did they stay together for so long?' 'Well, we love each other.' 'But it's f***ed up! It's just f****d up.' Everything here is extreme. That scene is extreme. The emotions, everything is just messed up, and then he just wants to reconnect and becomes that weird thing. If you look closer there are those moments where she -- well, I haven't seen the finished edit, of course -- but we tried to have it where she goes into it then she pulls away, she goes in then she pulls away, but of course he is forcing himself."

 

[DarthSkywalker]

He says he is forcing "himself". I don't think that means what you think it is means.

 

[Reek]

its rape. maybe not in a diff location... but there... its rape... and pisses me off.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

A different location?

 

[Reek]

A different location?

well (show wise) she seemed half ok with it... so maybe not infront of a corpse lol..

 

[DarthSkywalker]

So the corpse makes it rape. Ok. I just thought that the dead body made the brother/sister sex more icky.

 

[Reek]

So the corpse makes it rape. Ok. I just thought that the dead body made the brother/sister sex more icky.

do you speak english?

she refused him at that location.. so he raped her... but given her attitude, she'd have ****ed him elsewhere.

 

[Reek]

(more willingly)

 

[DarthSkywalker]

do you speak english?

she refused him at that location.. so he raped her... but given her attitude, she'd have ****ed him elsewhere.

Not one word.