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Doc Samson said:
It probably is, but I just hate the way the Oscars operate anyway. There's no way anybody is going to tell me The Departed was much better than Taxi Driver, Goodfellas or even Casino. But since they snubbed Scorsese for so many years, "it's only right" to just give it to him now?
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Departed wasn't going against those movies, though. It's not about being the best of the decade or anything, it's about being considered the top for that year, as the award is aptly named.

I never understood why a "comic" film automatically alienates someone from at least getting a nomination. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't believe it's ever happened,
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Technically, "A History of Violence" counts.

and while few and far between, there are some really strong performances that at least could've warranted some form of recogniton from the Academy other than Special Effects....
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Well, I strongly disagree. But care to mention which performances from comic book films so far deserved an Oscar nomination?
 
Crook said:
Departed wasn't going against those movies, though. It's not about being the best of the decade or anything, it's about being considered the top for that year, as the award is aptly named.

Technically, "A History of Violence" counts.


Well, I strongly disagree. But care to mention which performances from comic book films so far deserved an Oscar nomination?
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Taxi driver was the best movie of that year, and one of the best in any year period

Just by how you worded that response however, it's obvious whatever I say won't really mean much of a difference. I'm not trying to argue, just stating the fact that the Academy will give awards to the same type of film year in and year out. Rather you disagree or not, is irrelevant to the point that plenty of actors who get snubbed for superior roles get awarded later in their careers for performances that were not the best of that year just to make amends
 
Doc Samson said:
Taxi driver was the best movie of that year, and one of the best in any year period
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I'm not gonna disagree that the film got snubbed. But when it comes to Departed, I think it deserved it's win, in relation to it's competition. I feel that just because people complain about Scorcese's award comes in very late, it undermines the film's success.

Only Technically I might add
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Still counts. And I'm willing to bet that a major reason it's one of the only few comic book adaptations to get nominated, is that the genre it came from was completely invisible to its audience.

Just by how you worded that response however, it's obvious whatever I say won't really mean much of a difference. I'm not trying to argue, just stating the fact that the Academy will give awards to the same type of film year in and year out. Rather you disagree or not, is irrelevant to the point that plenty of actors who get snubbed for superior roles get awarded later in their careers for performances that were not the best of that year just to make amends
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I never denied that. All I wanted to know is what comic book roles you felt deserved an Oscar. Of course it's all opinion. Mines is that I don't think I've ever seen one that's deserved a win. There's just way too many good performances each year.

I mean, people can cry all they want about the politics behind the decisions, but at the end of day, it never loses it's merit. The day a comic book movie is awarded an Oscar, is the day people stop b1tching about the entire award event.
 
Crook said:
I'm not gonna disagree that the film got snubbed. But when it comes to Departed, I think it deserved it's win, in relation to it's competition. I feel that just because Scorcese's award comes in very late, that it undermines the film's quality and merit.


Still counts. And I'm willing to bet that a major reason it's one of the only few comic book adaptations to get nominated, is that the genre it was coming from was completely invisible to its audience.


I never denied that. All I wanted to know is what comic book roles you felt deserved an Oscar. Of course it's all opinion. Mines is that I don't think I've ever seen one that's deserved a win. There's just way too many good performances each year.

I mean, people can cry all they want about the politics behind the decisions, but at the end of day, it never loses it's merit. The day a comic book movie is awarded an Oscar, is the day people stop b1tching about the entire award event.
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I agree with you mostly, I was more coming from the perspective of individuals who may have gotten snubbed, and consequently rewarded somewhere down the line for perhaps their weakest work. Now I'm not saying the Departed wasn't deserving, or even close to being weak, but after Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, The Aviator, Gangs of New York and countless others get passed over, I found it hard to believe his track record didnt come into play just slightly. I may be naive to envision Heath getting any type of award, but if this man developed insomnia and inadvertenly contributed to his demise, it should at least be worth a look IF it's as good as they say....
 
FlawlessVictory said:
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=+1]Day-Lewis Dedicates Award to Ledger[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Sunday January 27 11:05 PM ET[/SIZE][/FONT]



[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Daniel Day-Lewis dedicated his Screen Actors Guild Award to Heath Ledger. [/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Day-Lewis, who was honored Sunday as leading actor for his performance in "There Will Be Blood," gave an acceptance speech that echoed comments he made last week about Ledger, the 28-year-old Australian actor whose death stunned Hollywood, on "The Oprah Winfrey Show." [/SIZE][/FONT]

[SIZE=-1][FONT=arial,helvetica]"In 'Brokeback Mountain' he was unique, he was perfect," Day-Lewis said. "That scene in the trailer at the end of the film is as moving as anything I think I've ever seen."[/FONT][/SIZE]

[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Backstage, the 50-year-old Day-Lewis said he never met Ledger but the actor's death was all he had been thinking about recently. [/SIZE][/FONT]

[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"I thought he was beautiful. I just had a very strong feeling I would have liked him very much as a man," he said. "I admired him very much. I'm absolutely certain he would have done many wonderful things in his life." [/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Several prescription drugs were found in the apartment where Ledger's body was found Tuesday by his masseuse. The cause of death is awaiting toxicology tests. [/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]During the awards show religious protesters gathered across the street from the Shrine Auditorium, toting signs that read, "Heath's in Hell," a reference to his "Brokeback Mountain" role in which he portrayed a gay cowboy. [/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]"We should leave him alone and we should leave his family alone to suffer their unimaginable grief in private, and it's not going to happen," Day-Lewis said backstage. "We should just stop encouraging people to have greater and greater interest in raking over every detail, which is none of our business anyhow." [/SIZE][/FONT]


[FONT=arial,helvetica][SIZE=-1]Ledger's photo from his Oscar-nominated role in 2005's "Brokeback Mountain" closed the SAG award show's in-memoriam segment.[/SIZE][/FONT]


http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/ap/20080127/120150390000.html
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Daniel Day-Lewis is one class act, not to mention one bad a## actor, I admire him for dedicating his award to heath.
 
Regarding the article from Nolan in Newsweek on Ledger's passing. Not sure if it was posted in the boards yet... it's on the main page, but here is what I have to say about.

Very nice article from Mr. Nolan. Honestly, past everything, that's the nicest thing I've read(or heard) from anyone since his death. And, it's not just because it's Chris Nolan saying it... even though I was wondering what he would say, because after all he is editing his final completed film.

Christopher Nolan had the privilege of seeing Heath fully matured as an actor. Although neither of them knew it at the time, regretfully it turned out that way.

And, just to know how into this character Heath was, and how Nolan and him worked so closely together to come up with this character(there ideas being the same at first)... and now to know that he's never going to see it, is truly heartbreaking. From what I've heard, Heath put his all into it... and it's a shame that he won't be able to see what he did.

And, as odd as it may seem, I look at the last line from Pee-Wee's Big Adventure to make myself feel better.

"Hey, don't you want to stay and see how it [the movie] ends?"

"I don't have to see it. I lived it."
 
Chris Nolan's tribute was so moving. The man writes beautifully. It's so like Chris Nolan to take his time to write such a fitting, thoughtful piece. The franchise is lucky to have someone like him at the helm. I have no doubt he'll do full justice to Heath's performance.
 
Nina7 said:
Chris Nolan's tribute was so moving. The man writes beautifully. It's so like Chris Nolan to take his time to write such a fitting, thoughtful piece. The franchise is lucky to have someone like him at the helm. I have no doubt he'll do full justice to Heath's performance.
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My thoughts exactly.

And it was a heck of a way to make a "statement" ... re the news. Nolan is a class act.
 
LOS ANGELES - Daniel Day-Lewis dedicated his Screen Actors Guild Award to Heath Ledger.

Day-Lewis, who was honored Sunday as leading actor for his performance in "There Will Be Blood," gave an acceptance speech that echoed comments he made last week about Ledger, the 28-year-old Australian actor whose death stunned Hollywood, on "The Oprah Winfrey Show."

"In 'Brokeback Mountain' he was unique, he was perfect," Day-Lewis said. "That scene in the trailer at the end of the film is as moving as anything I think I've ever seen."

Backstage, the 50-year-old Day-Lewis said he never met Ledger but the actor's death was all he had been thinking about recently.

"I thought he was beautiful. I just had a very strong feeling I would have liked him very much as a man," he said. "I admired him very much. I'm absolutely certain he would have done many wonderful things in his life."

Several prescription drugs were found in the apartment where Ledger's body was found Tuesday by his masseuse. The cause of death is awaiting toxicology tests.

During the awards show religious protesters gathered across the street from the Shrine Auditorium, toting signs that read, "Heath's in Hell," a reference to his "Brokeback Mountain" role in which he portrayed a gay cowboy.

"We should leave him alone and we should leave his family alone to suffer their unimaginable grief in private, and it's not going to happen," Day-Lewis said backstage. "We should just stop encouraging people to have greater and greater interest in raking over every detail, which is none of our business anyhow."

Ledger's photo from his Oscar-nominated role in 2005's "Brokeback Mountain" closed the SAG award show's in-memoriam segment.

Here's a video link:
http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20168762_20174052,00.html
 
hey everyone

i haven't been online for awhile due to a broken right arm
but more importantly

what's this about a chris nolan statement
can someone give me a link?
 
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