Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - Part 5

[misslane38]

That's one other job between MOS and BvS. Ben had 3 films last year, Amy had 3 or 4 and Ezra had 1 or 2. Henry needs to pick it up.

Never said it was more than one job only that it was a non-Superman job completed between DCCU films.

Hasn't he always said that acting for him is a means to an end, basically? I mean, it's great for the guy if he can do a movie every couple of years and then do whatever he wants with loads of cash in the bank.

When has Henry said this? Do you have a quote or a source?

 

[superboy13]

When has Henry said this? Do you have a quote or a source?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...shamedly-admits-s-acting-fantastic-money.html

http://ew.com/article/2016/03/11/henry-cavill-acting-art-money/

(They're both basically the same, but, y'know, one is the Daily Mail.)

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Hasn't he always said that acting for him is a means to an end, basically? I mean, it's great for the guy if he can do a movie every couple of years and then do whatever he wants with loads of cash in the bank.

I don't know exactly what he said... But I know he likes the money that comes from acting. I guess that means he isn't aiming for any Oscars which is fine; I just worry that after Superman he won't get jobs like Christopher and Dean who were only ever able to be Superman. Tom Welling as well.... Except he just wasn't a good actor.

 

[Black Narcissus]

I have always prefer this color scheme for the ''S''..

 

[misslane38]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbi...shamedly-admits-s-acting-fantastic-money.html

http://ew.com/article/2016/03/11/henry-cavill-acting-art-money/

(They're both basically the same, but, y'know, one is the Daily Mail.)

“But I’m not just doing this for the art. The money’s fantastic and that’s something which I deem – and again, it is frowned upon – very important."

Thanks for the links! Reading them, it's clear that Henry doesn't say the money is his only or prime motivator or it's purely a means to an end; he cites the art as important to him too. And when he does discuss the financial rewards, he is doing it in a candid way that, if other actors were similarly honest, would be true for them too. He basically just says that the money is a nice perk, and one of the things he likes to do with the money is share it with friends and family so that they all can benefit. It seems like a very balanced, human, and honest attitude.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I think Henry is a grown enough to figure out his own work schedule.

 

[Superchan]

Cavill seems to be selective regarding his projects, which is perfectly fine and with that being said he has done UNCLE and the upcoming Sandcastle between MOS, BvS and JL and the immortals, which preceded MOS so he seems to be working regularly.
Also I appreciate the fact that the guy is honest enough to say that money matters and that it's not only for the art, which is fair enough and it shouldn't be misconstrued for him not caring about his acting.

 

[STARMAN]

It seems like he was particularly cautious after filming MOS and was expecting more offers to roll in after it's release.

 

[titansupes]

I don't know exactly what he said... But I know he likes the money that comes from acting. I guess that means he isn't aiming for any Oscars which is fine; I just worry that after Superman he won't get jobs like Christopher and Dean who were only ever able to be Superman. Tom Welling as well.... Except he just wasn't a good actor.

Reeve was actually being offered a lot of stuff, but he kept turning them down. Total Recall and Pretty Woman for instance. I have no idea why, but I guess that's easy to say from our point of view.

 

[Guts]

Being as how the rest of the League is armored, does anyone think we will see Superman with an armored look in the movie?

 

[matt47]

Being as how the rest of the League is armored, does anyone think we will see Superman with an armored look in the movie?

God I hope not. Either keep the suit as is or revert back to MoS' suit! t:

 

[KillerWolf]

Being as how the rest of the League is armored, does anyone think we will see Superman with an armored look in the movie?

Isn't Supes' suit already an armor? Some sort of Kryptonian chainmail...

 

[jfurioso]

To create contrast, Superman should emerge from whatever thingee helps bring him back (genesis matrix?) in his birthday suit, and then Diana gives Lois a nod and a thumbs up.

 

[TheRedWraith]

Isn't Supes' suit already an armor? Some sort of Kryptonian chainmail...

It is but I’d really love to see Superman get the ship to make him armor like Jor-el had worn over a black and silver undersuit to compensate for him starting off weak. This would then get torn away and damaged over the course of the third act as he starts getting stronger and accruing more damage until only the black and silver undersuit is left.

 

[titansupes]

To create contrast, Superman should emerge from whatever thingee helps bring him back (genesis matrix?) in his birthday suit, and then Diana gives Lois a nod and a thumbs up.

 

[TheTarkKnight]

Reeve was a damn good actor. I'm almost certain it was his choice to not take on whatever part was offered him.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

I think Henry is a grown enough to figure out his own work schedule.

Didn't any of us say he wasn't

 

[Herolee10]

You know, I was actually talking to someone who brought this up and I'm curious to hear on whether some here agree with his sentiment.

Basically, the guy said that from BvS to JL, it feels like Snyder is using Superman's character in a similar fashion to how Burton used Batman in his films and how Singer used Superman in his film...where, rather than having a traditional character arc, the character/protagonist is used as a plot device that propels the series of events that the other main characters react and respond to, as opposed to the protagonist having their own character depth progression.

Any thoughts?

 

[misslane38]

You know, I was actually talking to someone who brought this up and I'm curious to hear on whether some here agree with his sentiment.

Basically, the guy said that from BvS to JL, it feels like Snyder is using Superman's character in a similar fashion to how Burton used Batman in his films and how Singer used Superman in his film...where, rather than having a traditional character arc, the character/protagonist is used as a plot device that propels the series of events that the other main characters react and respond to, as opposed to the protagonist having their own character depth progression.

Any thoughts?

What are your thoughts?

 

[Herolee10]

What are your thoughts?

Personally....in some ways, I could see where he was coming from, but I disagree on the notion that Superman didn't have his own arc...at least not in BvS (I don't know about JL since it hasn't come out yet).

I mean, in BvS...we saw Clark/Superman having to look and question himself as a hero after experiencing several unfortunate events, only for him to rise above the challenges and prove both Lex and Batman wrong.

Though, given Snyder's statements about Superman having a "big role" in JL in terms of both his presence and absence, I'm inclined to think that they'll do a "Luke Skywalker/TFA" treatment when it comes to how the members of the JL respond/do things until Superman returns.

 

[Alfreds Butler]

You know, I was actually talking to someone who brought this up and I'm curious to hear on whether some here agree with his sentiment.

Basically, the guy said that from BvS to JL, it feels like Snyder is using Superman's character in a similar fashion to how Burton used Batman in his films and how Singer used Superman in his film...where, rather than having a traditional character arc, the character/protagonist is used as a plot device that propels the series of events that the other main characters react and respond to, as opposed to the protagonist having their own character depth progression.

Any thoughts?

I think superman has had a more similar arc to nolans batman. Starts out rookie like in BB then is turned against and goes away TDK finally is needed again and makes his return like TDKR.

 

[misslane38]

Personally....in some ways, I could see where he was coming from, but I disagree on the notion that Superman didn't have his own arc...at least not in BvS (I don't know about JL since it hasn't come out yet).

I mean, in BvS...we saw Clark/Superman having to look and question himself as a hero after experiencing several unfortunate events, only for him to rise above the challenges and prove both Lex and Batman wrong.

Though, given Snyder's statements about Superman having a "big role" in JL in terms of both his presence and absence, I'm inclined to think that they'll do a "Luke Skywalker/TFA" treatment when it comes to how the members of the JL respond/do things until Superman returns.

Interesting thoughts. Thanks for sharing them, and I agree about Superman having a recognizable arc. I think his arc(s) align pretty well with Joseph Campbell's Monomyth or Hero's Journey and what's known as an Existential Hero (also applies to Batman).

 

[Superchan]

You know, I was actually talking to someone who brought this up and I'm curious to hear on whether some here agree with his sentiment.

Basically, the guy said that from BvS to JL, it feels like Snyder is using Superman's character in a similar fashion to how Burton used Batman in his films and how Singer used Superman in his film...where, rather than having a traditional character arc, the character/protagonist is used as a plot device that propels the series of events that the other main characters react and respond to, as opposed to the protagonist having their own character depth progression.

Any thoughts?

I don't think that applies to MOS but it does apply to BvS.
Superman had an arc in MOS where he started out as a good Samaritan in hiding, he didn't trust humanity but ended up forced to do so. A weak arc IMO but an arc non the less.
In BvS he had no arc to speak of, he was dull but heroic and he spent the whole movie being crapped on and then he died, the end!!! What a waste of Cavill's talent.

 

[misslane38]

I don't think that applies to MOS but it does apply to BvS.
Superman had an arc in MOS where he started out as a good Samaritan in hiding, he didn't trust humanity but ended up forced to do so. A weak arc IMO but an arc non the less.
In BvS he had no arc to speak of, he was dull but heroic and he spent the whole movie being crapped on and then he died, the end!!! What a waste of Cavill's talent.

Read the Existential Hero link I provided and see if you see things any differently.

 

[Superchan]

Read the Existential Hero link I provided and see if you see things any differently.

Yeah I just read it and it applies to Snyder's superman and I hate that take so that's that.