Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - Part 9

[odilonredon]

Over the summer, my wife and I double dated with a few of her co-workers to watch 'The Jungle Book.' There was this one woman with a string of kids that kept having to remove herself with one of the kids because they were seemingly scared of some of the animals intensity in some of the scenes (that were even made to look scary.) Even children stories re-imagined have some "non-friendly kids stuff" that happen in their movies. Hell, even 'Beauty and the Beast' made some jump that forced the audiences's discomfort (but that's the experience.) Does that make 'The Jungle Book' and 'Beauty and the Beast' "not for kids" just because there are designed emotional structures that are meant to garner a reaction that may not be suitable for children? Doubt it.

Point is, kids are exposed to way more violence within' today's society and have no problem recognizing when certain amounts of violence is being portrayed on screen. Cartoons and animations have a fair share of things in their films that could be chalked up as disturbing to some viewers. That and exposing children to any type of movie at the theater brings out an enhanced experience that can be daunting for some children where they can respond BADLY to things such as loud noises or groups of strangers around them. The environmental movie theater alone can be intimidating to children regardless of what movie is playing (but HOLY OFF-TOPIC, BATMAN.)

it's not the violence necessarily that i have a problem with w/r/t the lack of accessibility for young ones. it's the tone, the characterizations and the lack of narrative clarity along with my opinion that there aren't enough moments that would inspire and engage children in a meaningful way.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I remember watching Pulp Fiction as a 10 year old. I had never seen a non-linear film before that. It blew my mind. I stayed up after mapping out the film in order on a little notepad. I get that not every kid is like that, but I think most kids will rise to the occasion when presented with more challenging material.

And yes, the non-linear format was what stuck with me most after watching Pulp Fiction at 10 years old.

 

[TheRedWraith]

It also means that even if they don't fully understand the story while young, their understanding of it, and what they get from it will transform as they grow older and it will mean that much more to them when they inevitably revisit it.

 

[odilonredon]

So is it teenage boys or man-children? Or is it whatever demographic you pull outta thin air to make some non-point about the direction of the DCEU that we know and have always known was going to change.

Goodness, I will agree that BvS is not aimed at children. But the idea that it is not accessible to them is ridiculous to me. You can not like the movie without having to resort to hyperbole and boxing in the entire comic book genre as being "for kids." These stories run the gamut.

it is my view that the dceu so far has been aimed at teenage boys and others with the mentality of teenage boys.

 

[Da-Scribe]

It also means that even if they don't fully understand the story while young, it just means that the story, their understanding of it, and what they get from it will transform as they grow older and it will mean that much more to them when they inevitably revisit it.

This has been the case for me with so many films and cartoons as I rewatch in my adulthood.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

My bet is on Wolfgang. The only other DCEU/Snyder hater that was banned recently was Doc Oc, but he rarely visited this place.

Im sure this is what you really meant.

 

[Da-Scribe]

it is my view that the dceu so far has been aimed at teenage boys and others with the mentality of teenage boys.

Is that any surprise? These are PG-13 action films. There is not a single one of these that hasn't been aimed at teenage boys. Logan is about the only one that isn't. Yes, I know it's also R-rated, but so is Deadpool and that movie is a teenage boy's wet dream.

 

[odilonredon]

Man Who Sold The World?

yup.

 

[odilonredon]

Is that any surprise? These are PG-13 action films. There is not a single one of these that hasn't been aimed at teenage boys. Logan is about the only one that isn't. Yes, I know it's also R-rated, but so is Deadpool and that movie is a teenage boy's wet dream.

no, honestly it's not a surprise. but i think these movies should have something to offer for everybody and i don't think they do.

 

[Tra-El]

It also means that even if they don't fully understand the story while young, their understanding of it, and what they get from it will transform as they grow older and it will mean that much more to them when they inevitably revisit it.

 

[Da-Scribe]

no, honestly it's not a surprise. but i think these movies should have something to offer for everybody and i don't think they do.

Depends on how you're looking at it. You seem to be boiling it down to surface level characterizations. I mean, you talked about the Golden Age as if it was strictly for kids and ignored some of the larger aspects of it that contradict that very notion.

At any rate, it's totally fair to think these movies are bad or to simply not like them. But the idea that they there isn't something for everyone in these films is wild to me. Yes, I do believe they lean in a certain direction more than others, but I firmly believe it does a disservice to the audience to imply that they can't access these films the same as anyone else. Women, kids, teenage boys, etc. aren't monoliths.

 

[odilonredon]

Depends on how you're looking at it. You seem to be boiling it down to surface level characterizations. I mean, you talked about the Golden Age as if it was strictly for kids and ignored some of the larger aspects of it that contradict that very notion.

At any rate, it's totally fair to think these movies are bad or to simply not like them. But the idea that they there isn't something for everyone in these films is wild to me. Yes, I do believe they lean in a certain direction more than others, but I firmly believe it does a disservice to the audience to imply that they can't access these films the same as anyone else. Women, kids, teenage boys, etc. aren't monoliths.

never said "strictly for kids". they were created primarily with the intent of appealing to children. there's a difference between "designed for kids" and "meant only for children to enjoy".

that idea that there isn't something for everybody in these movies shouldn't be wild to you considering the amount of negative reception the movies have garnered so far. and i don't mean to speak ill of the capabilities of the general audience, only the zack snyder dceu movies in appealing to them.

 

[idiot09]

Dunno about BvS as its more adult...

But MOS can be enjoyed by a 10 year old, a 25 year old, and a 40 year old guy.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Dunno about BvS as its more adult...

But MOS can be enjoyed by a 10 year old, a 25 year old, and a 40 year old guy.

No, my friend. It's not for adults, it's for "man-children".

 

[Da-Scribe]

never said "strictly for kids". they were created primarily with the intent of appealing to children. there's a difference between "designed for kids" and "meant only for children to enjoy".

that idea shouldn't be wild to you considering the amount of negative reception the movies have garnered so far. and i don't mean to speak ill of the capabilities of the general audience, only the zack snyder dceu movies in appealing to them.

Good lord, I'm not gonna do this semantics dance with you.

And the critical reception is not representative of the audience reception. I'm not saying it was beloved by audiences across the board, but it unquestionably went over much better with them. So yes, the idea is wild to me.

 

[Tra-El]

BvS was the Frank Miller film of the DCEU reminiscent of The Dark Knight Returns in tone, which ironically was the one graphic novel that stands 'til this day as THEE GN that transformed the comic book industry into a more adult driven industry with adult driven themes (Watchmen arguably being the other.) The action in BvS was massive and had a lot of grunts and hi-ya's, which adolescent kids latch onto. Seeing Doomsday have the ability to shoot blasts from within' the makeup of his body was very comic-booky and something a kid would go "woo000oooooo000ooaaa" over.

Supergirl is a television show that is poppy and is aimed towards more of a young girl demograph that plays off of everyday themes of what it means to be a powerful woman, so that show isn't necessarily made for an adult 29 year old male, but that didn't keep me from watching some episodes and being impressed with some of the characterization and action sequence's which turned out, was for me where I can atleast sit down and go "that was impressive. I enjoyed that."

 

[kguillou]

Not for nothin but Supergirl actually has some really REALLY impressive fight scenes and CGI...for a television show with a limited budget.

 

[jfurioso]

This is a goofy ass argument based on anecdotal evidence. Kids are just not that dumb. I watched plenty of R-rated, complicated films as a kid. And so what if some little kid was crying in a movie? This is not an unheard of phenomenon.

Weak-a** kids. My kid was 11 and had no trouble watching and enjoying BvS. Of course, we do not live in a coddled first world country so there is that.

 

[Black Narcissus]

 

[nyyarod]

Such a wonderful human that Henry is.

 

[Arachnerd]

The Cavill likeness continues to spread through Superman comics.

I approve. t:

 

[idiot09]

The Cavill likeness continues to spread through Superman comics.

I approve. t:

Clay Mann and Dan Jurgens thanked Zack Snyder and Henry Cavill for his Superman as its Superhero day. Clay Mann also thanked Patty Jenkins for WW.

 

[nyyarod]

I loved Henry's post on Instagram tagging all of those actors.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

:tiptoesin: I don't like the moustache :tiptoesout:

 

[KillerWolf]

yup.

What's this terribly uninspired melody in your signature? I'm really curious.