Here We Go Again Part 3: New Welling As Superman Rumors?

[fixxxer1022]

WOW... this could be great news for smallville/tom supporters. interesting developments happening as we speak. i know the boards are exploding over the news. could tom welling actually be considered for sups? im starting to believe it is a better possibility than yesterday. as ive said nobody has flat out denied tom as they did routh right off the bat. makes a fan wonder. and IMO it would be perfect to end smallville and start the flick.

to be continued!

 

[JackMercy]

hey, I know a guy who has a house there!

Hey Hulkie, you stole my comment...
(and we're on the same wavelength)

 

[Mike22]

Hmm, Interesting.

 

[Webhead2006]

As great as it would be for us tom fans, it was probably like for snyder to choose vancouver since he has worked there before. So he probably likes the city and studio spaces and crews and all that. But for us sv fans it is another notch for a posssible welling pick. But I know as nice it would be its not likely to happen. Since we already know snyder wants his film to be different and new.

 

[Billy Batson]

As great as it would be for us tom fans, it was probably like for snyder to choose vancouver since he has worked there before. So he probably likes the city and studio spaces and crews and all that. But for us sv fans it is another notch for a posssible welling pick. But I know as nice it would be its not likely to happen. Since we already know snyder wants his film to be different and new.

I don't see how Snyder's Superman can't be different and new with Welling as Big Blue. Snyder DOES NOT have to adhere to anything Smallville with Tom Welling as his Superman.

 

[Prison Mike]

In that case then they should just stick with Routh. If past connections to Superman doesn't matter then why go through the casting process at all?

 

[Billy Batson]

In that case then they should just stick with Routh.

I guess farting up one film wasn't enough for you?

 

[Webhead2006]

Ya if welling was picked then for poor routh fans are like why not him. To me its alot better to just wipe it clean and have a new cast so it will be it own thing an no general audience joe thinking or its sr sequel or sv the movie. This reboot needs to be its own thing and be as far away from routh film or as sucky as it is sv too.

 

[Prison Mike]

I guess farting up one film wasn't enough for you?

So you think people will remember Superman Returns if Routh comes back but they won't remember Smallville if Welling is chosen as Superman?

 

[Billy Batson]

It's only Smallville the movie if they title it "Smallville the movie".
The name of the game is money, casting Welling and this film WILL make Blockbuster money. Any other actor including Routh, who the hell cares?
I know i don't!!!

 

[Billy Batson]

So you think people will remember Superman Returns if Routh comes back but they won't remember Smallville if Welling is chosen as Superman?

Nobody remembers SR, because NO ONE SAW IT.

 

[darkzombiemutt]

The Problem with Routh is no matter what, people will think this is a sequel to SR, and he had a kid in that movie. At least with Welling, he's not connected with that disaster. I thought he was decent for what they gave him, Too bad for him. With Welling, its a different medium, and people would get that, or at least be more forgiving to it.

 

[Webhead2006]

Well not really with a fresh new cast and story. If they promote the heck out of it right I am sure the general audience will get it is a different and new tale.

 

[SrsBsns]

I'm not exactly understanding why there's any Routh bashing He was one of the better elements of the movie, he really just lacked the script to show it.

It's not a secret that I'm a Welling supporter, but I really can't say I'd be too disappointed if they went with Routh again.

Also, darkzombiemutt, you have a point about everyone thinking it's a SR sequel, but you do realize everyone would still do that about Smallville right? They'll obviously realize it's Tom Welling from the tv show now in the actual movie, but that will still confuse them. From some of the polls posted throughout the years, it's pretty clear a good portion of people think of TW as Superman at the moment. With that said, ALL those same people would inevitably ask upon Tom Welling being cast, "So...wait, is this a Smallville movie??"

You could market it that it's a completely new franchise, but the same goes for Superman Returns.

 

[Billy Batson]

Well not really with a fresh new cast and story. If they promote the heck out of it right I am sure the general audience will get it is a different and new tale.

Fresh story and Tom Welling promotes itself. Psst! Tom Welling is the general audience's .
Don't believe me just google Superman Tom Welling, watch how many pictures and fan made videos pop up with him as SUPERMAN. LMAO!!!

 

[Billy Batson]

I'm not exactly understanding why there's any Routh bashing He was one of the better elements of the movie, he really just lacked the script to show it.

Personally SR doesn't exist in my universe.
People should respect that this is Tom Welling's corner of the forum.
Mr. Singerman should NOT be mentioned in "these here parks".
Those folks got there chance and failed, they FEAR Welling getting the role and the film succeed. I had my "told you so" moment with SR, I'm a happy camper. Now, if Warner Brothers were to correct that wrong, by righting the franchise with casting Tom Welling. HOLY! MOLEY! Truly AMAZING.

 

[vantheman77]

Smallville is filmed in Vancouver and TW is producing Hellcats, which is also there. I wouldn't mind the new Superman movie being a continuation of Smallville because the show would end with Clark wearing the suit and fly with it and the reboot movie could continue from there. 10 seasons and over 200 episodes of Smallville is quite an accomplishment along with Tom being a director and executive producer. We've seen Tom as future Clark Kent with glasses and he pulled it off very well.

 

[darkzombiemutt]

I'm not exactly understanding why there's any Routh bashing He was one of the better elements of the movie, he really just lacked the script to show it.

It's not a secret that I'm a Welling supporter, but I really can't say I'd be too disappointed if they went with Routh again.

Also, darkzombiemutt, you have a point about everyone thinking it's a SR sequel, but you do realize everyone would still do that about Smallville right? They'll obviously realize it's Tom Welling from the tv show now in the actual movie, but that will still confuse them. From some of the polls posted throughout the years, it's pretty clear a good portion of people think of TW as Superman at the moment. With that said, ALL those same people would inevitably ask upon Tom Welling being cast, "So...wait, is this a Smallville movie??"

You could market it that it's a completely new franchise, but the same goes for Superman Returns.

I'm just saying that i think the public would be far more understanding to have Welling step into the role then trying to pretend Superman doesnt have a kid all of a sudden while still using the same actor. And as for Smallville, i think you can just not mention ties to the show. You make a movie that doesnt step on the toes of the TV show or the original movies. If you want to pretend he's the same Clark from the TV show, fine. If you want to pretend that Smallville never happened in the movie universe, thats fine too. I really don't think it would be difficult to do. Just make a fun action movie with Superman, and let the chips fall where they may. And if Welling is the only carry over from the show, the audience would understand that this is not supposed to be Smallville on the big screen, its a Superman movie, proper.

I'm not arguing with you, i know what you are saying, I just think Routh will unfortunately be a casualty because of that cinematic abortion. He seems like a decent fellow and I hope for the best for him. If he comes back, it wont stop me from seeing it, thats for sure, he was the only thing decent in the movie. (his clark was a bit to "blah" for my tastes) I just have a feeling the studio wants to distance themselves from SR, and I understand why.

I just want a fun Supes movie, so my friends will maybe understand my apparent obsession with the character. After they saw Superman Returns with me, they looked at me like I was some sort of idiot.

 

[Webhead2006]

This is the problem there. With trying to use either. Folks will think its connected to this or that. Which we know snyder isn't doing. So with an all new look, setting/story and all the trimming and keeping it as far as possoble from singer take or even sv. Will help show folks this is not as before. Then like I said with the promotion done right can show the general audience this is a fresh take.

the film needs it so it can walk on its own feet and carve its own nook into the vast superman legacy. As great as it would be to have tom or a big screen sv movie. Sv is nothing like trek. It worked for them for different factors. And superman is different. Plus come on if batman can have a clean new start,, james bond, and countless silly horror reboot/remakes why shouldn't superman have its chance to break away too.

Also on another note. If they did make it sv the movie or what not. What would be the stoey/villain. Sv has covered a vast portion of the big iconic ones. And as good as some were I am sure folks wouldn't want that. Where as a new film we can see a story with characters who haven't seen the light of day on big screen from superman vast rouges.

 

[triplet]

The thing is with Tom being the guy who gets cast in the new film is that the start up time would be less. He's established already in the fandom, albeit only as the 'guy on tv', but he has a built-in fanbase.

Routh has his fans and I understand those people not understanding why he's not being given a chance, but love it or hate SR the truth was that it wasn't anywhere as successful as the studio needed it to be. Unfortunately, Routh is tied to that franchise in everyone's mind so he can't come back unless they bring the kid and a ridiculous Lex Luthor back.

He's a no-go. Sad for him, I think he seems like a nice guy and I've liked other roles he'd been in, but any baggage from the movie is going to be brought back up if he's in the next one.

As for Tom, the SV haters may think there is baggage from the show, but why? Next to no one really watches it, in the grand scheme. Getting 3 million viewers a week is about the best it can do.

How many people saw SR in the theatres? Probably several times that many.

How many people saw SR on cable or rented it even if they didn't see it in the theatre? Probably many more times than the number who had seen it in the theatre.

So, a conservative estimate would be probably tens of millions of people, maybe, had seen SR.

So who's the worse when it comes to baggage?

Brandon Routh who had tens of millions who had seen SR?

Or Tom Welling who is in Smallville which only has a core audience of about 3 million people?

The thing worth noting, however is that Tom's following may be small but it's fanatical, as you are all probably aware.

Those are the people that will see the film no matter what and if the film is good will likely see it again and again in the theatre and buy the DVD or Blu-Ray and other related merchandise.

That is what gives a film 'legs' and keeps it in the theatres longer. It's how Titanic and Avatar made so much money, people saw it over and over and over.

Hollywood is a business more than anything else, so if it makes business sense for them to sign Tom Welling as Superman they will do it. Then they will try to justify it later to the public to placate any haters that come out and rant about him being cast.

I honestly think Tom Welling being cast will put more butts in the seats.

Hell, he's probably the only reason the dreck that was The Fog made back its production in only a couple of weeks. It certainly wasn't the story or the other cast.

If it makes sense for the studio financially, it won't matter what some vocal fans on the internet think, they will cast Tom Welling.

However, I'm not going to hold my breath. Like Tom said last summer at ComicCon, it isn't as simple as him wanting to do it or not. There will have to be a lot of things that will need to align for Tom to get the part and, although I want him to be in the film, I know that the chances aren't the best at this point.

There are just too many variables that we as fans are probably not even aware of in addition to the ones that we are, so his chance may not be great, but I think he's probably got a better chance than an unknown in terms of already having a fanbase.

I hope he gets it and I'll be disappointed if he doesn't, but I'm not going to let it break my heart like it did back when SR went to Brandon.

 

[Webhead2006]

Yea that is the issue there wb wants to make the most it can and need the film a big hit. And its probably best to have fresh clean break away so they can build up cast and film to there lieing. Their is pros and cons for both routh and welling. As much as I or any welling fan would want him cast. Then there is the deal even if tom was asked or tested for him being picked.

 

[Billy Batson]

Webhead, Why are you over cooking this non-issue?
Have Welling star as Superman, does not make the film Sv the movie.
Snyder can take the story any where he likes, Sv coverage of Superman related stuff was half-assed at best and no one cares. Smallville derailed many season ago and folks kept tuning in to that train wreck of a series, myself include. Why?
Fans of the series brought into Mr. Welling as Clark Kent, whom will one day become SUPERMAN.
Since Sv is such an issue, here my solution.
Smallville was the super adventures of “alternative reality” Clark Kent, that’ll sever all ties to the tv series.

 

[Billy Batson]

triplet I disagree with you. Smallville's Nielsen numbers does not tell the real story.
Smallville fans base is pretty large and worldwide. How about the dvd sells of the series, Smallville have a HUGE following in Latin countries and the U.K.
I do agree with you on "Tom Welling being cast will put more butts in the seats".

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Those folks got there chance and failed, they FEAR Welling getting the role and the film succeed. I had my "told you so" moment with SR, I'm a happy camper. Now, if Warner Brothers were to correct that wrong, by righting the franchise with casting Tom Welling. HOLY! MOLEY! Truly AMAZING.

You got to the core of the thing right there. Imagine how much crow these ppl would have to eat if Tom got cast and the film succeeds in getting the Spider-Man like box office numbers that Warner Bros. hoped to do with SR.

 

[Webhead2006]

Blly I know that I am just saying if u pick welling u have pros and cons just like if routh was picked again. But in the end its not likely welling will be picked and it will be a new cast. I just don't see snyder going with an actor who has been assoicated as clark as clark again.