Here's what The Punisher 2 needs to do to be successful.

[rogue trooper]

They could use elements from both "Welcome Back, Frank" and "Circle of Blood" for this. Maybe Jigsaw's face got messed up when Frank dipped him with the piranhas at the zoo.

 

[SWAT]

They could use elements from both "Welcome Back, Frank" and "Circle of Blood" for this. Maybe Jigsaw's face got messed up when Frank dipped him with the piranhas at the zoo.

 

[Brendan]

They could use elements from both "Welcome Back, Frank" and "Circle of Blood" for this. Maybe Jigsaw's face got messed up when Frank dipped him with the piranhas at the zoo.

Glad you're not writting this.

 

[rogue trooper]

OK!!! Maybe not!!!

 

[Neo_aa]

It's not that your idea is illegitimate or anything. But you have to admit that holding somebody's face in the water for piranhas to eat is far fetched even for an action movie. Since the humor was what people liked the least about the movie (Roger Ebert, as many of us know, bashed the movie for not being consistently serious) the original story of a glass injury is appropriate.

 

[rogue trooper]

It's not that your idea is illegitimate or anything. But you have to admit that holding somebody's face in the water for piranhas to eat is far fetched even for an action movie. Since the humor was what people liked the least about the movie (Roger Ebert, as many of us know, bashed the movie for not being consistently serious) the original story of a glass injury is appropriate.

Yeah, I guess. Maybe it's because I love the exaggeration in Kill Bill, Sin City, and from what I've seen in the Gring House trailer. I thought it would be suitable for The Punisher. But yeah, scratch that. I'm excited about the new writer!!!

 

[WeaponZ2]

Can someone please tell me what was so great about "Circle of Blood"?
Cause it really didn't think it was that good of a story...

 

[The Evil One]

I thought COB was all right. It was just the brainwashing that killed it for me.

More hand-to-hand combat??? There's no need to turn this movie into some type of Jet Li movie.

 

[Fried Gold]

1-Get away from this campy dark humor bull**** from Ennis's original run on the title. It was forced and distracting in the film.

2-Get a solid writer who will make us care about Frank Castle, not just someone who can give us action set pieces and unique kills. This is a movie, not a ****ing video game.

3-The title needs to be The Punisher: Circle of Blood. Keep the number out of the title. This will allow the film to stand on its own and entice new viewers to go see it.

4-The film needs to adapt Circle of Blood while updating some of the concepts. But outside of the updating, the movie needs to be an almost flawless adaptation of that mini. It was a great story and began right in the middle of the action. In fact, the last film should've been CoB, and it would have been a blockbuster hit. We'd be seeing the sequel sometime this summer.

5-Upgrade from the t-shirt look. Using the financiers from CoB offers the opportunity for a kevlar suit that doesn't look in any way superheroish, but is functional and badass. I'm thinking of Jim Lee's Punisher from the original War Journal.

6-No love interests for Frank, no lame sequences involving him doing things like saving lives or wasting his time on jaywalkers. Stick to the character that was there at the beginning (CoB, not the Amazing Spider-Man issues) and put some of the MAX Ennis Punisher in for good measure.

'Hood

Woah! ****, man, you should be making this film!

Quick, send these ideas to;

Punisher 2 makers
Hollywood
USA

I'm sure they'll snap you up!

 

[The Red Hood]

Woah! ****, man, you should be making this film!

Quick, send these ideas to;

Punisher 2 makers
Hollywood
USA

I'm sure they'll snap you up!

Hahah!

**** you, mother****er!

'Hood

 

[chamber-music]

The film needs to be gritty and darker. I would love it if david fincher did a punisher movie.

 

[Fried Gold]

Hahah!

**** you, mother****er!

'Hood

Heh.

 

[shatterstar4ml]

The first Punisher wasn't perfect but I sure had a good time watching it. The sequel should def. be darker and it would be a good idea to steer away from John Travoltat: . NYC should be the setting and getting some Jigsaw action would be awesome. I was really surprised the first one flopped so bad.

 

[Mr. Credible]

as long as they don't have anything like the cars rigged to blow up like a punisher skull like at the end of the first one, i'll be okay.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

1-Get away from this campy dark humor bull**** from Ennis's original run on the title. It was forced and distracting in the film.

Hell, the dark humor was what made the movie great. Though, I'd love the more darker, realistic humor of the MAX series.

2-Get a solid writer who will make us care about Frank Castle, not just someone who can give us action set pieces and unique kills. This is a movie, not a ****ing video game.

Well, we're already getting a different writer, so there's really no need to b***h about that. Besides, we still cared about Frank, if not just because of Jane's excellent acting.

3-The title needs to be The Punisher: Circle of Blood. Keep the number out of the title. This will allow the film to stand on its own and entice new viewers to go see it.

I don't see that it NEEDS to be called Circle of Blood, but I see what you mean by having the film stand on its own.

4-The film needs to adapt Circle of Blood while updating some of the concepts. But outside of the updating, the movie needs to be an almost flawless adaptation of that mini. It was a great story and began right in the middle of the action. In fact, the last film should've been CoB, and it would have been a blockbuster hit. We'd be seeing the sequel sometime this summer.

Again, I doubt that Circle of Blood is the ONLY way to adapt it--like, I remember a script review for Punisher 2 that went around that essentially combined Jigsaw with Nicky Cavella and had a story akin to Up is Down & Black is White. That would have worked for a great movie.

5-Upgrade from the t-shirt look. Using the financiers from CoB offers the opportunity for a kevlar suit that doesn't look in any way superheroish, but is functional and badass. I'm thinking of Jim Lee's Punisher from the original War Journal.

...No.

I'm sorry, man, but little white booties just don't work for Frank, and if they tried to change it, there will probably be an uproar in the fan community. Just stick with the shirt, with kevlar under it.

6-No love interests for Frank, no lame sequences involving him doing things like saving lives or wasting his time on jaywalkers. Stick to the character that was there at the beginning (CoB, not the Amazing Spider-Man issues) and put some of the MAX Ennis Punisher in for good measure.

'Hood

Yeah, love interests don't really work for Frank--though I wouldn't object to a character like O'Brian, who helps him with his mission and they occasionally decide to f**k each other. However, I think that would work better in a third movie, for the second movie might feel too close to his origin.

 

[The Red Hood]

^^^You are one of the few people to actually respond with intelligence to my entire post.

Thanks for that.

As for the suit...I'm not talking about the classic Punisher costume. I'm talking about something very military, something very practical. Pouches, belts, and holsters for weapons. And armor, though not "leather/rubber" like the Batman suit.

I just think it would fit in as an evolution of the character as he amasses more resources. He's not just going up against gansters anymore, now he's fighting drug lords and war criminals, etc.

At any rate, the suit is a small thing and it's what most people have glommed on to in my initial post. Unfortunate, considering I'm mainly interested in story and characterization.

'Hood

 

[Bubonic]

It just doesn't seem right having him run around without the skull logo. It's not that big of a detail so lets keep it!

Glad we got a different writer, loved the first film, but at points it would have been pretty weak if not for Jane pulling us threw. Like that scene where his family got wiped out... It would have felt better set at night, it probably would have been more effective if it wasn't as over the top, and if the love between him, wife, and child had been worked on more, the scene would have been more intense.

A good example for this is the scene in Gladiator when his wife and kid gets killed, I was definately more empathetic then.

I would definately would like it better if they ignored a love interest for the time being.

 

[MaskedManJRK]

^^^You are one of the few people to actually respond with intelligence to my entire post.

Thanks for that.

As for the suit...I'm not talking about the classic Punisher costume. I'm talking about something very military, something very practical. Pouches, belts, and holsters for weapons. And armor, though not "leather/rubber" like the Batman suit.

I just think it would fit in as an evolution of the character as he amasses more resources. He's not just going up against gansters anymore, now he's fighting drug lords and war criminals, etc.

At any rate, the suit is a small thing and it's what most people have glommed on to in my initial post. Unfortunate, considering I'm mainly interested in story and characterization.

'Hood

I think the problems with that suit, though, is that even if it is a military bodysuit, it will probably still be made in the film by leather or rubber. I mean, the suit in Batman Begins was supposed to be a Kevlar/Nomax weave, yet they still made it out of neoprene. Also, other fans will probably s**t a brick if they found out that Frank wasn't wearing either the classic costume or the T-shirt.

And I hear ya on characterization and story--I'm just not convinced that Circle of Blood is the ONLY way to make a good sequel.

For example, my idea for a 2 and 3 would be for two being an amalgamation of Jigsaw and Nicky Cavella and 3 would use Nikolai Zakharov and Barracuda.

 

[Brendan]

Here's what The Punisher 2 needs to do to be successful:

No Barracuda

 

[The Red Hood]

Also, other fans will probably s**t a brick if they found out that Frank wasn't wearing either the classic costume or the T-shirt.

I went back and re-read my original post. I didn't say what I meant.

What I meant was, I'm not talking about using the classic Punisher costume from the 70s. It's dated and far too "superheroey" to coin a term.

What I'm talking about is some kind of armor but of course featuring the skull. The skull from the first film was perfect IMO and should really be implemented in the comics. I liked it that much.

I just think Frank needs some serious protection when he's going up against the big bads. It's all fine and good to take out some rapists or serial killers with a t-shirt and trenchcoat. But I'm not so sure it's realistic that Frank would wear the same going up against people with heavy ordinance who outnumber him.

'Hood

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Here's what The Punisher 2 needs to do to be successful:

No Barracuda

Barracuda owns your f**king soul! Don't badmouth the man, or I'll b***hslap you and make you fix me some motherf**king eggs!!!

I went back and re-read my original post. I didn't say what I meant.

What I meant was, I'm not talking about using the classic Punisher costume from the 70s. It's dated and far too "superheroey" to coin a term.

What I'm talking about is some kind of armor but of course featuring the skull. The skull from the first film was perfect IMO and should really be implemented in the comics. I liked it that much.

I just think Frank needs some serious protection when he's going up against the big bads. It's all fine and good to take out some rapists or serial killers with a t-shirt and trenchcoat. But I'm not so sure it's realistic that Frank would wear the same going up against people with heavy ordinance who outnumber him.

'Hood

Let me put it to you this way: Superman Returns had essentially the same costume, but with shorter trunks and a \S/ symbol on the belt, and there was a outcry of biblical proportions. Changing the Punisher costume would probably have the same thing.

And hell, Frank didn't have just the skull shirt on--the big battle at the end he had a bulletproof vest with the skull painted on. Don't see how that couldn't work with Punny's other bads.

 

[Brendan]

Barracuda owns your f**king soul! Don't badmouth the man, or I'll b***hslap you and make you fix me some motherf**king eggs!!!

Would you like me to give you my address or do you plan on jumping though my computer and ***** slapping me?

 

[FireandIce213]

Would you like me to give you my address or do you plan on jumping though my computer and ***** slapping me?

lol i think he was trying to do an impression of barracuda...the whole fix me some eggs bit kinda made me think so.

 

[dude stannis]

Barracuda owns your f**king soul! Don't badmouth the man, or I'll b***hslap you and make you fix me some motherf**king eggs!!!



Let me put it to you this way: Superman Returns had essentially the same costume, but with shorter trunks and a \S/ symbol on the belt, and there was a outcry of biblical proportions. Changing the Punisher costume would probably have the same thing.

And hell, Frank didn't have just the skull shirt on--the big battle at the end he had a bulletproof vest with the skull painted on. Don't see how that couldn't work with Punny's other bads.

I don't see what would be wrong with a SWAT uniform that has a vest with the spray painted skull. Only little girly men complain about minor costume changes anyway.

No Barracuda? Might as well give Frank a redheaded mullet.

 

[Kritish]

I loved the Punisher, I'm glad it wasn't made PG-13 for the kiddies. I think if they just stayed the course the franchise would do just fine. The Punisher isn't going to be a block buster that will win any awards. Let's just try to make a good film oriented towards adults.