Hero to Villain

[Doombringer]

When i think of Spiderman as a villain I always think back to the 90's animated cartoon, when he has the symbiote and is about to crush Rhino with the huge iron door. Rhino's like "No DOOON'T!!" and Spidey whips back "Why not? I have the power?!" I always thought that was quite disturbing in a way. Remembering back to that, say what you want rehash whatever, i wouldnt mind seeing the/a symbiote turning him evil... again If written justly and taken to a new approach of course. Id buy it. I like it better than the Other crap. Though the Other would be an interesting take too. The Spider always showing up when times are **** for Spidey.

 

[Sebastos]

How about Shang-Chi? I've always thought he could be the villain and some sort of master assassin witht the skills he has.

 

[Union Jack]

the sentry...that'd give the MU some troubles..

 

[Sebastos]

That would be awesome. Considering Sentry is that powerful and when the Avengers have a threat, he could defeat the enemy in a mintue. Sentry as a villain would be an awesome idea.

 

[yahman]

I think Marvel are already runiing with this, but I think Black bolt would make a great villian, he's got some real destructive power after all !!!!!!! He wouldn't have the promblem of prematurely revealing his evil sceme as well.

 

[Sloth7d]

When i think of Spiderman as a villain I always think back to the 90's animated cartoon, when he has the symbiote and is about to crush Rhino with the huge iron door. Rhino's like "No DOOON'T!!" and Spidey whips back "Why not? I have the power?!" I always thought that was quite disturbing in a way. Remembering back to that, say what you want rehash whatever, i wouldnt mind seeing the/a symbiote turning him evil... again If written justly and taken to a new approach of course. Id buy it. I like it better than the Other crap. Though the Other would be an interesting take too. The Spider always showing up when times are **** for Spidey.

He really wasn't evil. Just an anti hero. And even theb he didn't crush the rhino because true self rejected the symbiote.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That would be awesome. Considering Sentry is that powerful and when the Avengers have a threat, he could defeat the enemy in a mintue. Sentry as a villain would be an awesome idea.

Isn't that what the Void is for?

Exiles issue #23. End of Debate.

Iron Man WILL succeed.

Oh, right, the arc where Iron Man turned evil and then... what happened? Oh yeah, he died. He totally won that one.

 

[DraXXXen]

Oh, right, the arc where Iron Man turned evil and then... what happened? Oh yeah, he died. He totally won that one.

Yeah...total failure once you discount the many decades inbetween his turning and his death.
You know, the ones filled with complete world control and destruction of all his opponents.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Except Wonder Man, whom he could never touch because he knew he'd get his ass kicked, and the Inhumans, whom he could never touch because he couldn't find. He won a few battles, but the war still went to the heroes.

 

[Tropico]

He wouldn't have the promblem of prematurely revealing his evil sceme as well.

You're right, premature revelation is a big problem for many Marvel villains and usually leaves the opposite party dissatisfied.

 

[yahman]

You're right, premature revelation is a big problem for many Marvel villains and usually leaves the opposite party dissatisfied.

Is that a Crude joke ?

 

[Cyrusbales]

professor X, who'd be able to stop him really!!!!

 

[Galact-Gal]

professor X, who'd be able to stop him really!!!!

Isn't the Shadow King already Mr.Evil Telepath? And he get stopped. And comes back again. And gets stopped. And comes back again...

 

[Alex Summers]

professor X, who'd be able to stop him really!!!!

If Nate Grey was still alive he would be able to defeat Chuck.

 

[Wolfwood]

Wasn't Onslaught the result of Xavier going evil? That's what I heard, not sure.

 

[Sloth7d]

professor X, who'd be able to stop him really!!!!

I think the Sentry could beat him easily. He has high telepathy resistence. Ironman could take him too. And so can alot of others.

 

[Vanguard07]

Especially considering Xavier's just a harmless old man. Foggy Nelson could stop him.

I say strange would be an awesome villain, as would Black Bolt and his inhumans. I dont agree about Spiderman. It'd be more believable for him to commit harikari.
I wouldnt mind it if Ben Reilly returned as a villain though. That'd be a fun ride.


Also Iron Fist, Nick Fury, Franklin Richards and Hercules would be fun stuff as bad guys.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Iron Fist was turned bad in Priest's Black Panther series and fought BP, I think. I saw scans of the pages and it looked pretty badass.

Fury'd be a really effective villain, but I don't think he'd be a very good villain. He'd probably be too effective, for one thing, given how much he knows about everyone. Plus, his motivation would be tricky. He's already mostly an anti-hero, thoroughly immersed in gray, as head of SHIELD, but he's faced all the temptations of the world of espionage and remained incorruptible for years. He's Marvel's own Elliott Ness. Part of the fun of seeing heroes go bad is the novelty of it, too, but he uses underhanded tactics all the time, so he'd basically just be doing the same things with different targets.

Wasn't Onslaught the result of Xavier going evil? That's what I heard, not sure.

Onslaught was an amalgam of Chuck and Magneto, and he only became a major threat after he captured Franklin Richards and Nate Grey and started adding their power to his own.

 

[Fading]

Iron Fist was turned bad in Priest's Black Panther series and fought BP, I think. I saw scans of the pages and it looked pretty badass.

Fury'd be a really effective villain, but I don't think he'd be a very good villain. He'd probably be too effective, for one thing, given how much he knows about everyone. Plus, his motivation would be tricky. He's already mostly an anti-hero, thoroughly immersed in gray, as head of SHIELD, but he's faced all the temptations of the world of espionage and remained incorruptible for years. He's Marvel's own Elliott Ness. Part of the fun of seeing heroes go bad is the novelty of it, too, but he uses underhanded tactics all the time, so he'd basically just be doing the same things with different targets.

Onslaught was an amalgam of Chuck and Magneto, and he only became a major threat after he captured Franklin Richards and Nate Grey and started adding their power to his own.

You know tho, that doesn't diminish Xavier being powerful in my eyes at all. That just shows with part of Magneto's ego that he was able to capture Franklin Richards and Nate Grey and add them to himself. Basically it was almost all Xavier and the bit of mind he took from Magneto or his ego, which is why I liked it so much cause it shows what Xavier is capable of doing if he didn't work so hard to do the right thing. Only thing I regret out of that story is I think it hurt Xavier as a character, as he went in it like an uncorruptable Martin Luther King Jr., and came out as an uncertan man who is indeed coruptable, but made him feel a bit more approachable at the same time.

 

[Spidey_Zombie]

1. Captain America
2. Spider-man (not to the effects of a symbiote, but eviler) Pure evil...
3. Gambit
4. Iron Man
5. (The Entire Fantastic Four) - Possibly under complete mind control, thanks to Doom. Although retaining their entire memory.

 

[3dman27]

How about Shang-Chi? I've always thought he could be the villain and some sort of master assassin witht the skills he has.

thats what his father the infamous FU MANCHU originally intended for our master of kung fu

 

[The Geek Vault]

An evil Vision would be cool...
oh wait ultron. What about a evil hank pym.

 

[3dman27]

an evil 3d-man[don't say TRIATHALON he was only a dupe of the triune understanding]

 

[Doombringer]

He really wasn't evil. Just an anti hero. And even theb he didn't crush the rhino because true self rejected the symbiote.

He was not just an anti hero, he was in the process of becoming evil. Transcending into it. Please he wanted to destroy the Shocker later on too, "You cant defeat me! Ill chase you to the ends of the EARTH!!" I remember it vivdly. The Symbiote was influencing him. He would arrive on the scene as Spiderman, then gradually during the action he would start gettin carried away and turn dark. He beat Rhino and after Rhino was down, he was gonna crush him. But he stopped himself and realized what he was about to do. He even pondered it when he left, something to the effect of i cant believe what i just did back there, i almost did something i woulda regretted for my whole life. To Spiderman killing the Rhino would have been an evil or villainous act in itself.

I think Ghost Rider would make a pretty crazy villain. Killing not only demons, but any one, heroes included, that get in his way.

 

[Cyrusbales]

if Gambit wanted to, he could just charge up the side of buildings, or gas mains or something.....