Heroes virtual season?

[Cmill216]

that was the only problem i had and now im ready to get it going

Good. You've got one of the characters I'm most intrigued to see be developed. Very good stuff.

 

[Byrd Man]

Good. You've got one of the characters I'm most intrigued to see be developed. Very good stuff.

what's so intresting? he seems kinda plain to me but i'm my worst critic

 

[Cmill216]

what's so intresting? he seems kinda plain to me but i'm my worst critic

You are being your worst critic!

Come on! He's an all-American basketball player, leading Georgetown?! And he has powers and has to balance a life of national fame and discovering what he can do and what to do with it? That's great stuff.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Yes, I apologise for that one.
For some reason that last line made me think that you were in fact talking about the improbability of a unified style in prose (which I only agreed with) instead of it in script (which you intended and I misread). Most probably I misunderstood because you mention different styles as in different genres and we are in fact writing one genre mostly - superhero, right?

And still no. The official word: Everything is in script, NOT prose, if you need help transfering it then you will be helped by either myself or CMill.

I am not proposing that we should.
I am simply trying to comprehend if there is any other reason behind the desired script format other than fast reading and facilitated different author scene stitching.
So it’s your personal preference, fine, shish.

 

[Triligors]

Every writer is their own worst critic. After I write something I can't read it over again because I'll nitpick at every line of dialouge, action, and so on... this is for EVERYBODY.

Bryan Singer once stated:

When do you feel like you're finished with a movie?

"A movie is never finished. It's merely abandoned."

If you could, would you pick at it?

"Forever. Of course, yeah. You'd have to take it from my cold dead hands. [laughs]

 

[Byrd Man]

Every writer is their own worst critic. After I write something I can't read it over again because I'll nitpick at every line of dialouge, action, and so on... this is for EVERYBODY.

Bryan Singer once stated:

When do you feel like you're finished with a movie?

"A movie is never finished. It's merely abandoned."

If you could, would you pick at it?

"Forever. Of course, yeah. You'd have to take it from my cold dead hands. [laughs]

exactly back in HS i won an award for best short story and i thought it was a peice of sh#t

 

[Triligors]

I made a short 2 minute film for NYFA and it's hard watching it because every time I watch it I go "I shouldn't have used that angle" or "I should have got a close up of that"- it's just hard looking back at your work no matter what it is and how longer ago it was.

 

[Triligors]

Expansion on earlier statement:

If anyone has a strong mutant that uses various 'powers' inside of what they have powers for, then it's ok to use more than one power.

Another possible pair-up, for possible supporting character that is open for use (I will not be using)

'ultimate weapon'

Charge objects, perfect aim, everything in his hands is a weapon

There are other mutant abilities that are similar. But do not focus on the abilities, the main focus should be on the characters. Thus, if you do use a mutant with a combo powers as a supporting character- do not make this into a special effects spectacle.



Also stated on the post is the ending and what that may possibly lead to. Note: This ending, everyone is free to insert their character- no matter which side they are on. If your character will be part of the ending I have planned (you can have your own character 'ending') just state such on the forum (on the headquarters).

Note: Not every detail of the 'final' scene are official, most is subject to change.

 

[AnimeJune]

Reading the Heroes NBC Discussion thread - the creators are saying that the focus will not be on the superpowers (they aren't going to be donning masks or saving babies from tigers or anything) but on how they personally deal with their powers and fit them into normal life.

Just thought I'd reiterate that - so that there's no Super-Naming or Justice-League-ing going on.

 

[Cmill216]

If anyone has a strong mutant that uses various 'powers' inside of what they have powers for, then it's ok to use more than one power.

See, this is the one thing I've had a problem with. As I look at the "power profiles" in the Discussion thread for the actual show, no one on there has multiple powers (i.e. flight, strength, and agility). They all have one, unique gift.

I just think some people who give themselves these "multiple powers" will find it too tempting to focus on their multiple abilities and how the character uses them in conflicts, instead of focusing on the character themselves. Is there really a need for someone to have an array of abilities? Not really. This way, people can come up with more unique single abilities, instead of making themselves into mini-Supermans.

Having characters with one individual, but distinct ability makes it much more interesting if you ask me. When you start getting into people being able to fly, but also having laser vision, or super strength, it just starts getting ridiculous. I like some of the abilities I'm seeing so far (aging, controlling emotions, generate explosions, absorb pure energy). Good stuff.

For example, when I started thinking about my character, I had that idea of wanting him to be able to control fire and electricity and water. But then I started realizing as I was writing, that I kept focusing on his powers and what he does with them, instead of the character and the very nature of the power. So, I scrapped it all, and started focusing on the water. And I found myself becoming fascinated by the very concept of someone being able to control and manipulate the water around them. I started researching water and water molecules and just found some truly engaging information. Now, I have one single power that I can truly expound upon and explore deeper, but it doesn't overshadow who my character is.

The thing is, I just don't think it makes sense in this Heroes world to have someone who can read minds AND move objects with their mind. Why not be able to just read minds, and explore the very nature of that type of gift? When you start getting into these multi-powered people, you start delving into superhero territory, and that's not really what we are going for here or what Heroes is going for, right?

 

[Triligors]

If you check the profile of Ronnie Jacobs- the updated one on headquarters. You'll notice that he doesn't show his potential powers until the VERY last scene of the VS. There are going to be powerful mutants. But, if you can't handle a mutant with multiple powers (that are unified specifically, not jumbled and mixed a la Supes) because you're afraid that you will focus on powers rather than character- don't do it. But, if you naturally focus on psychological and character and not so much on action.... then you're free to go.

Ronnie brings about a MAJOR action scene at the very end that is a cumulation of everything and forces John into a difficult situation. Thus, Ronnie is in there to be a very challenging opponent. Someone with a history and we see how that history with John develops and where it goes to from there. Can't say any more on these boards. But, if you can handle multiple powers- for instance controlling the 4 elements- and will focus more on character, go for it. If you are hesitant that the powers may lure you away from the character at hand, don't do it. At the end it's up to the writer and what they're comfortable with.


The choice is up to the writer. I do not wish to place any limitations, however I will issue a guideline:

In using multiple powers, if the powers at hand distract you from delving into the psyche of the character- don't do it. If you feel comfortable in using multiple powers and know that multiple powers will NOT be a distraction, then go for it. But, the powers come at the very last. The top priority is character. I personally wrote a 500 paged (trilogy) epic before delving into a heroe's psyche and life. So, I'm used to it. Having a deep dark psychological core with an epic feeling, yet it all comes from the result of the character- not the powers themselves. Thus, do what YOU are comfortable with.

The choice is up to each writer. Last thing I want to do is put down multiple rules that put restrictions on the writer.

 

[AnimeJune]

Gah! I'm sorry - I just can't help but wince whenever someone says "mutant". For one thing, we don't KNOW why they have powers - it could be magic, for all we know...Second - it brings to mind X-Men.

 

[Cmill216]

Well, we'll find out what they'll be called on the series sooner or later.

I too hate "mutant" because I IMMEDIATELY think X-Men.

"Superhuman" works for me, and "metahuman" sounds SO awesome, but it's a DC term.

 

[Triligors]

It depends on what the writer wants to use. Teenage guys who have probably grown up reading comics (comics in the world) would call those with powers the most coined term- mutant. To me it sounds alot more scientific than superhuman (reckoning to the term super hero, and it can't really be used. Mutant is an easy word to use and doesn't sound- off. "I'm a superhuman" "I'm a metahuman" "I'm a homo superior" vs. "I'm a mutant"- even though I'd probably just use "I'm different".) Mutant, dialouge wise sounds alot more flowing and not cheesy or too scientific. Every other term stated sounds way to much like it came from a comic book, mutant is so common now that it's become a much general terminology.

Official word: Each writer gets to have their character refer to themselves with any term of their chosing. I will lay no guidelines or anything of the sort. It's up to the writers. I want there to be as few restrictions as possible.

It's more than likely the creator of the show is NOT going to use magic. That would be a 'cop out' or 'what the hell?!' and aliens would make people go- 'so it is 4400'. More than likely it is the time in which we are slowly beginning to evolve. The creator stated Unbreakable as being a huge inspiration on the show. Thus, I would really doubt he would go in a much different direction and make it because of a magical spell, alien influence, or the world changing because that would beckon the question "why only these characters?" in all situations. So, I'm 88% positive that this is people with abilities and not some 'it's not because of genetics' type thing when they have a scientist researching it and will probably find the ___fill in space___ gene.\\\

Also, I don't know if comics coined the term 'mutant' or just used it in regards to people. But, it is also now a scientific term (not just comic book) you can check on wikipedia. The following is an excerpt: A mutant (also known to early geneticists as a "monster") is an individual, organism, or new genetic character arising or resulting from an instance of mutation, which is a sudden structural change within the DNA of a gene or chromosome of an organism resulting in the creation of a new character or trait not found in the parental type. In an organism or individual, the new character or trait may or may not be trivial, may occasionally be beneficial, but will usually result in either a genetic disorder or have no phenotypic effect whatsoever. The natural occurrence of genetic mutants is integral to the process of evolution. Thus it is actually the less comic book of the terms, even though not as scientific as homo-superior, it does cary alot more weight with it. Since it is a common term in science, not just comic books.

 

[AnimeJune]

Hey - "different" - that's an idea. I'm serious. The getting of powers would be so weird, so unprecedented, and so rare that people might not immediately want to come up with a word for it - "different" would be a gentle side-stepping euphemism.
Like referring to the mentally challenged as "special".

 

[Triligors]

Writers can call their character whatever they want. Mutant one of the many possibilities. It's all up to the choice of the writer.

 

[Cmill216]

Hey, are we going to be using that chatroom?

 

[spartin2008]

I hope nobody gets mad at me for this but this idea kind of came from thsi thread...and for those who thought it was an RPG(like me) plz check this out...and if the starter of this thread dont want this hear i will deleat it!


Create-a-hero RPG

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

Well, I already stated my opinion about ‘mutant’ a while back.
To elaborate, thing is, hey, yeah whatever works for you people but easier to pronounce or not, while ‘mutant’ is commonly used to describe physical uniqueness of an individual in a species in the real world, what would you call a person who suddenly can manipulate water, read minds or even levitate? This isn’t a mere irregularity, that is an unprecedented phenomenon and needs a term of it’s own, which would be indeed synonym to ‘special’ and ‘superior’ instead of simply ‘different’. Those are just my two cents.

 

[Cmill216]

Well, I already stated my opinion about ‘mutant’ a while back.
To elaborate, thing is, hey, yeah whatever works for you people but easier to pronounce or not, while ‘mutant’ is commonly used to describe physical uniqueness of an individual in a species in the real world, what would you call a person who suddenly can manipulate water, read minds or even levitate? This isn’t a mere irregularity, that is an unprecedented phenomenon and needs a term of it’s own, which would be indeed synonym to ‘special’ and ‘superior’ instead of simply ‘different’. Those are just my two cents.

Well, that's why I personally decided on using "superhuman" for my stories. I just don't really like mutant. Others may use it, and that's cool. But I'll be using "superhuman" to describe them.

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

I have a particular 'secondary' character who I would love him to use the word 'superior'.

 

[Triligors]

As for the chat room. I thought that would be alot busier than it is. Because it seems like a lot of posters are on here at once. No specific times aside.

 

[Byrd Man]

tried my hand at script writing, posted something on the site thanks Triligors those movies you suggested helped alot

 

[Byrd Man]

and on the mutant front i like the word "genetically enhanced" seems kinda PC to me and that's what i would like to be called if i was like that

 

[Trevor Goodchild]

^Only problem is - who enhanced you then?