His webslinging still looks off

you know what i want them to show...it isn't a big deal, but his organic web openings on his wrist. they showed it once in spidey 1 real clearly and once more real quickly and from afar when he's walking to his locker ...in spidey 2 nothing, i just want them to show it in spidey 3...i know their still there, but its cool to see them.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
I think they need to concentrate on his wall-crawling ability. In my honest and sincere opinion, there hasn't been enough wall-crawling or him displaying that particular ability.

Oh I'm with you on that. It seems like we'll see him do some wall flips this time... in cgi. I'd have just had someone in a suit do it in green screen instead... oh well.

Here's my old video I did showing me playing the video game for spideyman 2.

http://www.zippyvideos.com/5136293344289096/ffgf_0001/

Don't laugh at my skillz. I'm only showing it because I think it creates the right sense of speed and motion during spidey's swings that work well because of the way I forced the camera angle. I try to make it not as predictable and more disorienting so you can sort of see things from spidey's point of view and it's like a real roller coaster experience.
 
Reikowolf said:
but my rebuttle is also.. when he was knocked off the train in SM2.. that recovery (off the street, up the side of the building and the leap) was soooo comic book.. my fav part of the film by far

That is my favorite part too. With the music and everything and in context of the losing his powers story line it just really awesome.
 
In terms of special effects, Spidey 3 will have to go a long way to match the almost 100% real-looking Superman Returns.
 
November Rain said:
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If you slow this clip down you'll notice it's actually two different shots put together. It's either had a bunch of frames taken out of the middle of the swing, or it's a completely different shot. Kinda makes it look like he's powering through the end of the swing more than he actually is.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
I think they need to concentrate on his wall-crawling ability. In my honest and sincere opinion, there hasn't been enough wall-crawling or him displaying that particular ability.

I agree with this and the jumping thing. Whenever he takes off from the ground it looks bad, and he almost never crawls around. Hopefully the construction site will give him more areas to cling to and jump on and off of.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
I think they need to concentrate on his wall-crawling ability. In my honest and sincere opinion, there hasn't been enough wall-crawling or him displaying that particular ability.


This is the thing i want to see the most since the beginning. They just never got his wall crawling down.. he would always leap frog up buildings. As bad as the 70s spidey show was I remember it had this one great shot of spidey climbing up a wall and the camera zoomed in from far away. They need to make him crawl like he did in the 90s cartoon.. oh i wish they would do that. More wall crawling damnit!
 
November Rain said:
i'm not necessarily talking about the high bar, i'm also taking the rings into consideration but mostly i'm talking about circus performers on the flying trapeze as points of example.

although yeah, what spidey is doing is on a larger scale, his body is also highly equipped to handle it so it brings it all into a relative scale or 'pound-for-pound agility' so to speak.

nothing is a necessity, spidey's two footed landings are alwas usually preceeded by a high looping arc which is supposed to slow down his momentum and bring him to an ice halt, he did this twice in the first film, once just before reaching the goblin on the bridge and another one at the end swing sequence when he's going for altitude as well as slowing down his speed (loops the loop on the crane).

I konw spidey isn't competing but he should still be that good, that's what makes him a wonder. He doesn't work out but he's still ripped to ****, it's a similar scenario.

as for his legs, they hardly help his swinging at all, he rarely goes into a tucked in ball shape at the bottom of his swings which is more efficient than letting them just do as they wish. I don't mind if he puts flare into his swinging with his legs, doing crazy poses or what not, that' shows he's above the rest of us but letting them dangle behind him like they are lead weights is just poor show. can you imagine superman flying all over the place with his legs dangling behind him, he remains forever streamline during flight, his legs don't go lazy. Imagine a Namor or aquaman water equivalent where their swimming (although faster than a human beings) looks like someone is drowning with style.

you make a point, gymnast force themselves but to spidey this should be as natural as walking, even more so. I understand it's simply a mode of transport but to a veiwer (or at least me), it's not completely aestetically pleasing.

spidey's swinging is one thing that the mtv series manage to nail, he always looked graceful and at ease, without a mask on, i always imagine tobey maguire's face all squished up like he's got constipation while spidey swings 'loosely'

Oy, they force themselves into a ridged form at times, something only to serve for estetics, No matter how "good" Spidey is naturally, there is no reason for him to do certain things like those types of landings.

Aslong as it is gracefull for what he is doing, and landing like that at that speed and with that kind of momentum is DAMNED gracefull.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
I think they need to concentrate on his wall-crawling ability. In my honest and sincere opinion, there hasn't been enough wall-crawling or him displaying that particular ability.
the wall-crawling they have shown is a great amount, the web-slinging is great, in spidey1 spidey was swinging but not doing flips, in spidey2 he was doing flips, in spidey3 it looks like hes a little bit more free with his web-swinging, alot of people including me loved the shot in spidey1 at the end when he shot two webs, the slingshot in the first two movies were great, i hope that returns in spidey3, spidey is an agile character, he can leap from building to building, i dont think his web-slinging is off, he looks very cool.
 
The cgi in the first spidey movie's web slinging wasnt that great. Specially when he is jumping :o
 
matthooper said:
Couldn't disagee more. I've always thought the webslinging was the most graceful and most beautiful part of all the FX.

^I do too.
 
November Rain said:
I don't know how long spidey is supposed to have carried this superhero role for in this next film but I would have hoped that he would have cracked this webslinging thing...

alas, he still looks uncomfortable/unprofessional...

he still does that thing at the end of his swing where he tries to leap off for more aerial height. This is fine once in a while but it would be nice to see him reaching the top of his swing before letting go once in a while, it's rarely done, especially outside of a facial closeup.

also judging from his clip, he still lands incredibly uncomfortable with his body jolting forward and his legs aren't together when he webslings.

Now spidey is supposed to have better balance and be more articulated that a leading gymnast but judging from his clips he wouldn't make any sort of state final, let alone a national or olympic competition.


I know it's not necessary for what he performs but i've always had a problem with spidey being graceful in the films, and i feel he was at his best at the end of the first film but even then, he swings as if he's still unsure of himself and his movements in the air and doesn't always land with confidence, it's still looks like it's hard work when it should be second nature.

I know it's a minor thing to moan about but i have a feeling that those swinging clips come from the last piece of the film and hence the last piece of the current franchise and it would be a shame to see it go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

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Agreed, I've seen my grandma do that. :o
 
:spidey: Webslinging scenes are some of the best parts of the movies and i also agree there could be some more wallcrawling
 
i think the swinging is great

i love the little kick he does at the top of his swings to get the extra height/bounce, it's a nice little touch. adds some "realism" if that's applicable
 
Just an opinion, but I've never seen a problem with the web slinging.

Never really noticed the absense or lack of wall crawling. Putting more in wouldn't really make a difference.
 
November Rain said:
I don't know how long spidey is supposed to have carried this superhero role for in this next film but I would have hoped that he would have cracked this webslinging thing...

alas, he still looks uncomfortable/unprofessional...

he still does that thing at the end of his swing where he tries to leap off for more aerial height. This is fine once in a while but it would be nice to see him reaching the top of his swing before letting go once in a while, it's rarely done, especially outside of a facial closeup.

also judging from his clip, he still lands incredibly uncomfortable with his body jolting forward and his legs aren't together when he webslings.

Now spidey is supposed to have better balance and be more articulated that a leading gymnast but judging from his clips he wouldn't make any sort of state final, let alone a national or olympic competition.


I know it's not necessary for what he performs but i've always had a problem with spidey being graceful in the films, and i feel he was at his best at the end of the first film but even then, he swings as if he's still unsure of himself and his movements in the air and doesn't always land with confidence, it's still looks like it's hard work when it should be second nature.

I know it's a minor thing to moan about but i have a feeling that those swinging clips come from the last piece of the film and hence the last piece of the current franchise and it would be a shame to see it go out with a whimper instead of a bang.

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Oh come on The Webslinging in the movies is the best part . It's awesome to see a live action spidey in action . Sam Raimi and his team should be proud of themselves they've done an outstanding job bringing the webslinging off the pages of the SPIDER-MAN Comics to the big screen .
 
Get a grip people, Spidey swinging is one of the best parts of the films for me -- although I love every bit -- but I know some parts arn't done exactly how you'd imagine but that is just how it goes -- what one person (or an entire team in this case) thinks what would look more 'realistic' isn't how everybody should see it. My worst shot of the entire films is when he swings out of the alley with the pizzas, but in the end i made my peace with it because the rest of the film is soooo good. You (and me) will find problems with every film, but moaning about how a supert hero lands after swinging at maybe 70 mph with a decent of maybe three or four stories is just rediculas. These films are Spider-man, this is how he moves, except it and enjoy the films.:spidey:
 
spidermanhero12 said:
the wall-crawling they have shown is a great amount, the web-slinging is great, in spidey1 spidey was swinging but not doing flips, in spidey2 he was doing flips, in spidey3 it looks like hes a little bit more free with his web-swinging, alot of people including me loved the shot in spidey1 at the end when he shot two webs, the slingshot in the first two movies were great, i hope that returns in spidey3, spidey is an agile character, he can leap from building to building, i dont think his web-slinging is off, he looks very cool.

Umm, they haven't really shown him using his wall crawling abilities. It's simply him sticking to a wall and staying there, or crawling up the walls briefly(SM2) to save someone.

What I mean by his wall-crawling abilities is having him dodge attacks while sticking to the wall, scaling and crawling the walls to get out of a tight situation and so on. In my opinion it was a missed chance in SM2 as the perfect time for his powers to return is when he went into the burning building.

I think it would've been cool to see him crawl the walls and get to the little girl.

We'll see come May 4th if they decide to show him display these abilities in his fights with Venom, Sandman, and Harry.
 
Reikowolf said:
but my rebuttle is also.. when he was knocked off the train in SM2.. that recovery (off the street, up the side of the building and the leap) was soooo comic book.. my fav part of the film by far

from the looks of the trailer, it looks like he does something similar with the door of the armored car.
 
spidermans web-slinging looks like it stepped off a page of a spiderman comic book, web-slining is one of the best visuals to see and sam has done an amazing job on bringing the web-slining to life and making it look so cool on film, the visual effects team put all there hard working effort into it.
 
Wow, when I thought people had run out of things to nitpick.

His swinging is has always been a hilight of the films. He is very graceful and agile it is just that he is not graceful in the simple human interpretation of it. It sounds to me you want it to look like Superman with webbing, when that isn't Spider-Man. He twists, he turns and lands and poses in obscure angles. And the films I think catpure this. Those two examples you have I think nail the swinging.

Now we don't get the great curves and body movements freeze framed in comic book pages but the fluidity works. If he was perfect and moved like a human body it would look even more fake despite what some of the constant nitpickers say (and that is not eferring to you November Rain).

Oh well.
 
Um, what exactly is "aerial height" supposed to mean?
As far as the swinging goes, to have Spidey swinging with legs together, in perfect form like a diver or gymnast would be boring. He's not Daredevil, he is a teenager. He has a loose style to everything he does.
 
That video clip is slowed down some,it actually goes faster and smoother.
 
LastSunrise1981 said:
Umm, they haven't really shown him using his wall crawling abilities. It's simply him sticking to a wall and staying there, or crawling up the walls briefly(SM2) to save someone.

What I mean by his wall-crawling abilities is having him dodge attacks while sticking to the wall, scaling and crawling the walls to get out of a tight situation and so on. In my opinion it was a missed chance in SM2 as the perfect time for his powers to return is when he went into the burning building.

I think it would've been cool to see him crawl the walls and get to the little girl.

We'll see come May 4th if they decide to show him display these abilities in his fights with Venom, Sandman, and Harry.

You kidding me? Nearly the entirety of the Doc Ock fights involve Spider-man using his wall crawling abilites. If I remember correctly he first ENCOUNTERS while hanging from the ceiling on the wall. Then they fight ON THE SIDE of a building. Then later they are fighting on a TRAIN, in which he crawls A LOT.

Spider-man's wallcrawling abilities were shown A LOT in Spider-man 2. Some were subtle most was very blatent.
 

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