Hitman: Absolution

[DarthSkywalker]

Yes, we've heard him say ONE line and it was not Bateson.

47 would kill anybody he needs to. Period. We dont know enough about the Diana situation to form any kind of opinion. Diana wasn't 47's friend, he'd kill her in an instant if there were reason to. Im super curious to find out what that would be. Im thinking he might of been set up. It was made to look like Diana betrayed him so he killed her, as she's lying there dying she divulges some info that sends 47 on a path to kill the people who did this. Maybe that explains why the bandage covers his barcode in some of the trailers? He obviously leaves the ICA.

47 wouldn't have killed Father Vittorio.

Also I would follow your logic if not for the end of Blood Money.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

47 wouldn't have killed Father Vittorio.

Also I would follow your logic if not for the end of Blood Money.

That literally, might be the ONLY person he wouldn't of and even then, had Vittorio of double crossed 47, he'd of off'd him, make no mistake about it, but yes, if 47 ever had a "friend" it would of been Father Vittorio

47 and Diana's relationship really doesnt go much further than handler and assassin. He'd of killed her when she "poisoned" him had he of been given the chance. "B***H!" doesnt ring a bell? Hah, he was pretty pissed. Their entire last convo was pretty much nothing but a business deal. If 47 found out that Diana was responsible for whatever pissed 47 off, he'd take her out. Im assuming thats what happens here but i dont think its that simple as i feel theres some double crossing going on.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

I almost never used the map anyway, so meh.

Also, it's most likely the pre-beta build. The skill of the player doesn't matter whatsoever in this case: a bad player doesn't make the enemy AI go up a flight of stairs backwards and be like DERP.

Doesnt matter if you did or not, "instinct" has always been there in the form of the map. Its damn near just as detailed a system.

And thats not in any way what i meant. Im saying the difficulty and how the AI reacts has been lowered due to the ******s who'd come to play the game. They dont want to make the game too difficult. One of the things IOI has stressed is the AI, so its not hard to assume thats the case here.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Ah, I misunderstood.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Ah, I misunderstood.

I mean thats what I'm hoping at least, if not, yeesh.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That literally, might be the ONLY person he wouldn't of and even then, had Vittorio of double crossed 47, he'd of off'd him, make no mistake about it, but yes, if 47 ever had a "friend" it would of been Father Vittorio

47 and Diana's relationship really doesnt go much further than handler and assassin. He'd of killed her when she "poisoned" him had he of been given the chance. "B***H!" doesnt ring a bell? Hah, he was pretty pissed. Their entire last convo was pretty much nothing but a business deal. If 47 found out that Diana was responsible for whatever pissed 47 off, he'd take her out. Im assuming thats what happens here but i dont think its that simple as i feel theres some double crossing going on.

Diana saved his life. She didn't have to. I am hoping 47 returns the favor.

 

[The Infernal]

Diana saved his life. She didn't have to. I am hoping 47 returns the favor.

I hope Diana survives too. She's been just about the only constant in 47's life. I think the fact that 47 didn't simply shoot her when she came to his hideout in Blood Money speaks volumes. Also 47 is a killer, a cold blooded one even, but he's not a psychopath. He does have some form of honour system or moral code.

Though I'd like to think that if it came to it, and 47 apparently was presented with a compelling reason to kill her, he'd at least hesitate. For me he's less compelling as a main character if he's always the calm assassin, there has to be other sides to him as a character and he has to have character progression.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I hope Diana survives too. She's been just about the only constant in 47's life. I think the fact that 47 didn't simply shoot her when she came to his hideout in Blood Money speaks volumes. Also 47 is a killer, a cold blooded one even, but he's not a psychopath. He does have some form of honour system or moral code.

Though I'd like to think that if it came to it, and 47 apparently was presented with a compelling reason to kill her, he'd at least hesitate. For me he's less compelling as a main character if he's always the calm assassin, there has to be other sides to him as a character and he has to have character progression.

Very well put.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Diana saved his life. She didn't have to. I am hoping 47 returns the favor.

He does, by shooting her while she's in the shower, haha. Now what would force him to do so is a huge mystery as he wouldn't pop Diana without a damn good reason. But if you think he wouldn't do it, you dont know 47.

I hope Diana survives too. She's been just about the only constant in 47's life. I think the fact that 47 didn't simply shoot her when she came to his hideout in Blood Money speaks volumes. Also 47 is a killer, a cold blooded one even, but he's not a psychopath. He does have some form of honour system or moral code.

Though I'd like to think that if it came to it, and 47 apparently was presented with a compelling reason to kill her, he'd at least hesitate. For me he's less compelling as a main character if he's always the calm assassin, there has to be other sides to him as a character and he has to have character progression.

Yea I'm hoping she makes it through the ordeal for the same reasons you mentioned. Although i dont know too many people to survive a hit from 47. 'Once that number is dialed, theres no calling him off, no do overs' Theres clearly something going on. As i said, i think 47 gets set up to kill Diana and he finds out he shouldn't of. Maybe that will open him up as you mentioned, allowing the player to maybe see something other than the genetically perfect super assassin. We know he has to try and find/protect a little girl which Diana informed him of, maybe that will open his character up more?

 

[The Infernal]

Yeah, there isn't much that can stop 47 if he's accepted a hit. Though I haven't seen every piece of info or video on Absolution, I saw the original trailer where he's taking out the guys in the house and it ends with him walking in on Diana (if it was her) taking a shower. I always thought that depending on how you looked at it, 47 could have been saving Diana in that trailer and not killing her (meaning that the goons were sent by ICA to take her out). Maybe in Absolution 47 is merely repaying the favour Diana did for him in Blood Money?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Yeah, there isn't much that can stop 47 if he's accepted a hit. Though I haven't seen every piece of info or video on Absolution, I saw the original trailer where he's taking out the guys in the house and it ends with him walking in on Diana (if it was her) taking a shower. I always thought that depending on how you looked at it, 47 could have been saving Diana in that trailer and not killing her (meaning that the goons were sent by ICA to take her out). Maybe in Absolution 47 is merely repaying the favour Diana did for him in Blood Money?

Well IOI has confirmed you kill her. They claimed he received a hit on Diana and he took the contract because he's a professional. Apparently Diana has some dying wish that 47 takes upon himself to see it through forcing him to go alone, outside of ICA interference.

PlayStation.Blog: Is Hitman: Absolution a direct follow-up to Blood Money? (asked by @KnightAttack09 and @APakwashee)
Hakan Abrak, lead producer, Hitman: Absolution: It’s not set in a specific Hitman timeline. The setting is a bit different and we’re taking the story somewhere else — you start the game by killing Diana, the only truly human connection Agent 47 has ever had. And that changes the stakes immensely. In earlier games, Diana’s contracts set the tone and direction of the story. This time, Agent 47 is on his own. He must choose his next steps on his own.

PSB: Why does Agent 47 kill Diana?
HA: I don’t want to go into too many details, but something’s happening at the agency. Agent 47 suddenly receives a contract to kill Diana, and…well, he’s very professional! He kills her. Diana has been Agent 47’s connection for a long, long time, so when she makes a dying wish for him to seek out a girl named Victoria, he takes it on as a personal mission. There’s a strong connection to the the title of the game, Absolution. He’s seeking absolution for…something.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/01/18/hitman-absolution-qa-io-interactive-goes-for-the-throat/

 

[Balthus Dire]

Dunno how I feel about that. But, maybe the death scene is really emotionally impactful on 47 and that's why he takes on her request as a personal mission.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Dunno how I feel about that. But, maybe the death scene is really emotionally impactful on 47 and that's why he takes on her request as a personal mission.

Yea theres gotta be something to it. I mean we know after this event he's out of the ICA and they end up trying to kill him. Im still going with the premise that they set him up to kill Diana, he does but finds out he was set up which leads him on this more personal quest.

 

[Balthus Dire]

That would be cool. But that would mean the devs were lying about 47 killing her, right? Unless he kills her without actually knowing it's her, like how he shoots her through the shower or whatever thinking it's someone else maybe.

I dunno lol.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Don't we know she survives the shower shooting? We see her in the hospital, or is that not her?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Don't we know she survives the shower shooting? We see her in the hospital, or is that not her?

Haha no, thats Victoria.

We dont know who she is only that Dianas dying wish was for 47 to locate her.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

That would be cool. But that would mean the devs were lying about 47 killing her, right? Unless he kills her without actually knowing it's her, like how he shoots her through the shower or whatever thinking it's someone else maybe.

I dunno lol.

No he deff kills her, but I'm thinking the ICA pushed him to doing so by fabricating some lie. I dont think 47 took the contract just because the ICA handed it to him, i think he took it because he was being fed some bs. I mean if anyone was going to kill Diana I'm sure 47 would want it to be him. I dont think he'd want anyone else from that agency doing that. Now i think when he does kill her, she gives him some info that leads him to discover that the ICA has been lying to him and makes him realize he basically killed one of the only human contacts he's ever known for nothing. Thats why he takes on this personal mission to find this Victoria and also why the ICA would sent a group like the Saints after him.

I mean this is all a guess of course. Who knows what IOI has in store.

 

[The Infernal]

No he deff kills her, but I'm thinking the ICA pushed him to doing so by fabricating some lie. I dont think 47 took the contract just because the ICA handed it to him, i think he took it because he was being fed some bs. I mean if anyone was going to kill Diana I'm sure 47 would want it to be him. I dont think he'd want anyone else from that agency doing that. Now i think when he does kill her, she gives him some info that leads him to discover that the ICA has been lying to him and makes him realize he basically killed one of the only human contacts he's ever known for nothing. Thats why he takes on this personal mission to find this Victoria and also why the ICA would sent a group like the Saints after him.

I mean this is all a guess of course. Who knows what IOI has in store.

Seems like a good guess. Though at this stage I can't rule out 47 paying back the favour from Blood Money.

However 47 being set up into killing her and finding out about it could be a good opportunity to open up the character more. Though it means the loss of Diana it might be worth it in the long run since the series rests on 47 not anyone else.

Also, speaking of 47's supporting cast, I wonder if Agent Smith will return? Hasn't he been in every game so far?

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Seems like a good guess. Though at this stage I can't rule out 47 paying back the favour from Blood Money.

However 47 being set up into killing her and finding out about it could be a good opportunity to open up the character more. Though it means the loss of Diana it might be worth it in the long run since the series rests on 47 not anyone else.

Also, speaking of 47's supporting cast, I wonder if Agent Smith will return? Hasn't he been in every game so far?

I mean he kills Diana, so is the favor him taking on this mission to find Victoria? Assassinating someone doesnt seem like a nice repayment, haha.

As for Smith, id like him to be in there even if its nothing other than fan service. You're right, he's been in every game previously. I wouldn't mind him having a role like he did in the film version of Hitman. Now since 47 is on the run from the ICA, maybe Smith can help 47 out a bit.

 

[socool]

You guys keep arguing about the Diana thing and why 47 would kill her, but you seem to be missing something, I think...

If I recall correctly, the first CG trailer where you see 47 off Diana, she turns toward 47, touches the glass of the shower, and whispers something like "Hello, 47." If you ask me, she wanted to die. Either that, or she was just okay with it. Makes me think there is more to this than we've seen. The speculating is fine, but I feel like we're just going to be way off base.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

You guys keep arguing about the Diana thing and why 47 would kill her, but you seem to be missing something, I think...

If I recall correctly, the first CG trailer where you see 47 off Diana, she turns toward 47, touches the glass of the shower, and whispers something like "Hello, 47." If you ask me, she wanted to die. Either that, or she was just okay with it. Makes me think there is more to this than we've seen. The speculating is fine, but I feel like we're just going to be way off base.

Yea its completely possible. All we know is 47 offs Diana.

And all she says is "47". I dont think she wanted to die, i think she knew it was coming. She knew the ICA was setting her up to be killed for some reason.

 

[socool]

Yea its completely possible. All we know is 47 offs Diana.

And all she says is "47". I dont think she wanted to die, i think she knew it was coming. She knew the ICA was setting her up to be killed for some reason.

So her plan is to take a shower.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

So her plan is to take a shower.

Haha I'm assuming she didn't know when it was coming.

 

[Balthus Dire]

In response to the crazy sexy nuns trailer:

"The Hitman games as a series has always been extreme in many ways," he says. "The religious themes have been there from the very beginning, along with outlandish party scenes. And there are a lot of movie influences in Hitman Absolution, like Tarantino and Rodriguez. The grindhouse theme is something that we’re using throughout the game. It tends more towards sixties exploitation movies – these were a fascination [for us] because they were so extreme."

Not crazy about the supposed "grindhouse themes" lol but we'll see what happens.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

He said exactly what i was thinking. I said that trailer wasn't anything different for the series and the devs agreed with me. I just thought it was odd due to the context, or well, lack thereof. I mean bad ass, but odd. He states thats going to be a level in the game. Wonder if it means we'll get to kill this squad of assassins ourselves. I see plenty of "accidents" in their future.