Hogwarts: Legacy - Open World Harry Potter Game

We shouldn't judge people who play this game. We shouldn't judge people who love the Harry Potter world. They don't deserve it. See the good in people instead. I actually believe that speaking on the beauty of the wizarding world to JKR is a better way to reach her heart. Matching hate with hate never works.
 
We shouldn't judge people who play this game. We shouldn't judge people who love the Harry Potter world. They don't deserve it. See the good in people instead. I actually believe that speaking on the beauty of the wizarding world to JKR is a better way to reach her heart. Matching hate with hate never works.
I do not believe defending people who's only crime to Rowling, is that they exist, is "matching hate with hate". Just like it wasn't during the Civil Rights movement or the pushback against apartheid in South Africa. It's allyship in a group's simple attempt to survive. Especially with the tidal wave of hate and legislation against them.
 
We shouldn't judge people who play this game. We shouldn't judge people who love the Harry Potter world. They don't deserve it. See the good in people instead. I actually believe that speaking on the beauty of the wizarding world to JKR is a better way to reach her heart. Matching hate with hate never works.

Despite what white people think, being called a terf is not a slur.

I don't necessarily judge who play the game. I am somewhat sympathetic to those whose job it is is to review the game and stream games. Its clear to me there are financial incentives to stream the game. People who I like streamed the game. And I am not going to stop watching, though I will not watch them stream this game.

My biggest regret is that this is whole debacle will just cause LFL to ignore the pleads to not let David Cage get his misogynistic, racists hands on the most wonderfully diverse era of Star Wars.
 
I do not believe defending people who's only crime to Rowling, is that they exist, is "matching hate with hate". Just like it wasn't during the Civil Rights movement or the pushback against apartheid in South Africa. It's allyship in a group's simple attempt to survive. Especially with the tidal wave of hate and legislation against them.

The hate part is like I said, judging people for playing the game. I've seen some pretty nasty stuff out there that goes beyond asking others to boycott along with you. I'm not pointing the finger at everyone who is boycotting. But some aspects of it have gone too far in regards of the pressure put on others.
 
Despite what white people think, being called a terf is not a slur.

I don't necessarily judge who play the game. I am somewhat sympathetic to those whose job it is is to review the game and stream games. Its clear to me there are financial incentives to stream the game. People who I like streamed the game. And I am not going to stop watching, though I will not watch them stream this game.

My biggest regret is that this is whole debacle will just cause LFL to ignore the pleads to not let David Cage get his misogynistic, racists hands on the most wonderfully diverse era of Star Wars.

Um, I'm not familiar with all of the terminology, but what do you mean by "despite what white people think"? How did race become a part of this?

And by the way, you won't watch your streamers play this game, perfectly fair imho.
 
Just my opinion, if people want to reach JKR, do it with love, and remind her of how much Harry Potter brings people together. Open her heart to having the discussion and do it in numbers.
 
The hate part is like I said, judging people for playing the game. I've seen some pretty nasty stuff out there that goes beyond asking others to boycott along with you. I'm not pointing the finger at everyone who is boycotting. But some aspects of it have gone too far in regards of the pressure put on others.
As I said on a previous page, I do not hold people playing this game against them. Those that promote it on their streams? Attack trans people for being hurt by it? Buy and play it to simply mock trans people? That's different. That said, what is wrong with holding a judgement for a choice someone has decided to make? Not who they are, but the decisions they make? I know that for the past three years, I judge people who don't wear mask, promote conspiracies, refuse to get vaccinated, and show support for Andrew Tate.

Also, holding a judgement is in no way attacking. Anyone can be a decerning parents, disappointed in others actions, without yelling at them.
 
Just my opinion, if people want to reach JKR, do it with love, and remind her of how much Harry Potter brings people together. Open her heart to having the discussion and do it in numbers.
She's willing to support homophobes, misogynists, anti-abortion advocates, racists, fascists, and outright child rapists so long as they say "trans people are disgusting" and takes the royalties she receives from purchases of her work as validation. There's no amount of hug circles that reaches that.
 
She's willing to support homophobes, misogynists, anti-abortion advocates, racists, fascists, and outright child rapists so long as they say "trans people are disgusting." There's no amount of hug circles that reaches that.
Considering this is being brought up again, I think it's important to point out that people tried to give Rowling the benefit of the doubt. Tried to reach out to her, explain. So many trans people and allies. She didn't care. Instead she dropped a legit manifesto and has been getting worse, and worse, and worse. Her identity is now singling out and attacking trans people, especially trans women. To the point that a woman who claims her concern is women's rights, safety, and bodily autonomy, has thrown her support behind right wingers who believe in biological determinism, to the point, that women only matter because of their ability to have babies, shouldn't be allowed to have abortions, and supporting literal rapists of women.
 
As I said on a previous page, I do not hold people playing this game against them. Those that promote it on their streams? Attack trans people for being hurt by it? Buy and play it to simply mock trans people? That's different. That said, what is wrong with holding a judgement for a choice someone has decided to make? Not who they are, but the decisions they make? I know that for the past three years, I judge people who don't wear mask, promote conspiracies, refuse to get vaccinated, and show support for Andrew Tate.

Also, holding a judgement is in no way attacking. Anyone can be a decerning parents, disappointed in others actions, without yelling at them.

Like I said, I'm talking about the nasty stuff.

Some gamers have been banned from online forums/communities they love because they played the game, loved it and wanted to share that with others like they do every other game they love.

Listen, if that's not you, great, my post isn't about pointing fingers at anyone. It's about telling everyone that the conversation that needs to be had about the game cannot come from a judgemental place. That only creates more division.
 
Like I said, I'm talking about the nasty stuff.

Some gamers have been banned from online forums/communities they love because they played the game, loved it and wanted to share that with others like they do every other game they love.

Listen, if that's not you, great, my post isn't about pointing fingers at anyone. It's about telling everyone that the conversation that needs to be had about the game cannot come from a judgemental place. That only creates more division.
Streamers are getting upset because their fans are saying they are disappointed in their choices. Nothing bigger then that. Full breakdowns, because a lot of people can't handle any form of pushback.

The second paragraph is a conflation. There are places which have told their members not to speak on the game, because conversations about the game, have turned into attacks on trans people, because like it or not, this game is seen by many as a symbol to support Rowling and her bigotry. If these people have decided to break the rules, or furthermore, support Rowling with their posts, and they got banned? That's their own fault. Perhaps they should've considered their forum's consideration for their trans members, who have to deal with a lot worse things then a gaming community saying no to a conversation about a game, you can talk about in a lot of places.

The division is Rowling. I do not think people expressing their completely understandable emotions is creating division. It's the bigots. It's always the bigots' fault.
 
She's willing to support homophobes, misogynists, anti-abortion advocates, racists, fascists, and outright child rapists so long as they say "trans people are disgusting" and takes the royalties she receives from purchases of her work as validation. There's no amount of hug circles that reaches that.

Hey, I'm wired to see the good in people. She has good in her too. This isn't who or what she is, this is an issue that she has. We all in our lives have issues we needed to change on. If you haven't had that yet, trust me it will come. And she may not change, but don't let that change you. Too much uglyness in the gaming community at the moment. People need to cool off.
 
Hey, I'm wired to see the good in people. She has good in her too. This isn't who or what she is, this is an issue that she has. We all in our lives have issues we needed to change on. If you haven't had that yet, trust me it will come. And she may not change, but don't let that change you. Too much uglyness in the gaming community at the moment. People need to cool off.
When you choose to make your near-singular focus in the public eye the oppression of a minority group, that's not a problem you have. That's revealing who you are. Telling people to cool off about trying to marginalize people is condescending and privileged. It's not ugly to not stand for that behaviour. We are in the middle of a massive onslaught of transphobia, from politicians, pundits, newspapers, and yes, JK Rowling, on both sides of the pond. If in the midst of that, your concern is civility or that streamers shouldn't get pushback, that says less about anyone aggreived by injustice than it does your priorities.
 
Hey, I'm wired to see the good in people. She has good in her too. This isn't who or what she is, this is an issue that she has. We all in our lives have issues we needed to change on. If you haven't had that yet, trust me it will come. And she may not change, but don't let that change you. Too much uglyness in the gaming community at the moment. People need to cool off.
If you're wired to see the good in people, why are you looking at the worst aspects of those pushing back against her and those streaming the game?

Second, she has made this who she is. There is no way around it. Bigotry isn't some "issue" she was inflicted with. It's 100% a choice, and one she's deciding to perpetrate on others.
 
When you choose to make your near-singular focus in the public eye the oppression of a minority group, that's not a problem you have. That's revealing who you are. Telling people to cool off about trying to marginalize people is condescending and privileged. It's not ugly to not stand for that behaviour. We are in the middle of a massive onslaught of transphobia, from politicians, pundits, newspapers, and yes, JK Rowling, on both sides of the pond. If in the midst of that, your concern is civility or that streamers shouldn't get pushback, that says less about anyone aggreived by injustice than it does your priorities.

You misunderstood a lot of what I said but I will also add this anyway.

Since you can name the people guilty of transphobia, you know who to stand up to. You know who to push back on.

The gamers within the gaming community weren't the ones who needed to be attacked.
 
If you're wired to see the good in people, why are you looking at the worst aspects of those pushing back against her and those streaming the game?

Second, she has made this who she is. There is no way around it. Bigotry isn't some "issue" she was inflicted with. It's 100% a choice, and one she's deciding to perpetrate on others.

I'm looking at the overall climate within the gaming community regarding this game. I have pointed the finger at no single person, and I certainly haven't singled out anyone to say they have no good in them.

I'm talking about division within the gaming community. A community I love. So obviously I see good in everyone that's part of the community.
 
You misunderstood a lot of what I said but I will also add this anyway.

Since you can name the people guilty of transphobia, you know who to stand up to. You know who to push back on.

The gamers within the gaming community weren't the ones who needed to be attacked.
If I'm misunderstanding your intention, then I will say that your intention is not coming through in your posts remotely. What is communicated instead is a softness on Rowling for what she promotes and instead more ire for criticism. You say that "I know who to stand up to," but you resist even the notion of standing up to them with comments of instead minorities should love those promoting their oppression until they just stop it.

I have not said that people deserve to be attacked (and I'm not saying you're saying I have), but people have routinely been conflating any pushback with attacks over these past few weeks. That's not to say no one has, however it is to say that the rush to defend the poor gamers is telling of what actually matters to people and what doesn't. You can buy this game, you can post all you want about it on any site that it's not banned on, but the idea that makes you exempt from judgement is silly. If someone bought a game where the franchise creator cashing royalty checks and using the position afforded to her by that creation to fund and promote the KKK, they'd be judged. If it doesn't matter to you, then own it.
 
You misunderstood a lot of what I said but I will also add this anyway.

Since you can name the people guilty of transphobia, you know who to stand up to. You know who to push back on.

The gamers within the gaming community weren't the ones who needed to be attacked.
What does "gamer" mean to you? Because you're separating them from trans people. Many of which, do in fact play games.

"Gamers" are not a protected class, that has no bigotry within. As one who enjoys a game or two themselves (not gonna brag about my over 130 platinums), I don't really identify as a "gamer", and that's because of how bad the rep has become do to things like gamergate, swatting, racism, transphobia, etc. Where a lot of the justification is "it's just a game bro" or "people are allowed to have opinions". It's not everyone who play games. Hell, some of the biggest proponents of the push back against gamer culture, is those who play games. but a defense force for those who identify as gamers? Nah. They aren't oppressed.
 
I'm looking at the overall climate within the gaming community regarding this game. I have pointed the finger at no single person, and I certainly haven't singled out anyone to say they have no good in them.

I'm talking about division within the gaming community. A community I love. So obviously I see good in everyone that's part of the community.
The division is do to a single person. That's the point. Placing a group of oppressed people on the same level of a bigot, who's tries to wipe them off the face of the planet, is not the same thing. It's made worse by placing the need to play a video game and stream it in public, on the same level. No one is passing laws for these people to not play the game. No one is paying millions to stop it.
 
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I'm looking at the overall climate within the gaming community regarding this game. I have pointed the finger at no single person, and I certainly haven't singled out anyone to say they have no good in them.

I'm talking about division within the gaming community. A community I love. So obviously I see good in everyone that's part of the community.
RIP banned user alt account. Didn't even last two weeks.
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this is currently on track to becoming the best selling game of the year, outdoing Mw3.
 

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