The Amazing Spider-Man How About Chameleon?

[Road Warrior]

In the first three movies they build up Harry Osborne and Dr. Curt Connors as villains. Although in the case of Connors, he has yet to become a villain. How about in the last three movies using Chameleon? Since he is a master of disguise he could be coming in and out as different characters till he finally reveals himself in the 6th movie. Maybe that Russian landlord of him could turn out to be the Chameleon. That'd be something!

 

[zeptron]

Chameleon is just a poor man's Mystique. I don't see him providing any good action scenes. And before anyone says he could turn into villains correct if I'm wrong but doesn't he lack their powers?

 

[Vis]

There's are better villains to use...I'm gonna say no for now.

 

[Venom 1988]

Chameleon is just a poor man's Mystique. I don't see him providing any good action scenes. And before anyone says he could turn into villains correct if I'm wrong but doesn't he lack their powers?

Correct he doesn't get their powers, but with a villain like Chameleon you're not supposed to have an action scene anyway. So anyways, yes to Chameleon.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

ya, not every villain needs to be all about fighting, powers, and blowing **** up

 

[Catman]

Chameleon wouldn't be used for action scenes. He'd just be the instigator. He'd probably frame Spider-Man for a major crime and have the entire city police after him. Stuff like that.

 

[zeptron]

Oh okay. But if they do a frame Spider-man storyline I'd prefer they use Mysterio.

 

[Hectorminator]

Here's the problem with Chameleon:

Either he A) has slick mimicking skills like a super-spy. He's basically Ethan Hunt from the Mission: Impossible movies because he uses latex masks and acting skills like Hunt. That's cool, but the audience has already seen it, and there are better (see: more impressive) villains that haven't been seen yet.

Or he B) has some shape-shifting abilities or a holographic suit/mask. He's basically a poor man's mystique, and again, we've already seen this. Even as recently as G.I Joe: Rise of Cobra, Zartan gained the ability to (YAWN) morph his physical features into the President.

So if they were going to use Chameleon, the first option seems cooler, more believable, interesting, and more original. But in the end, it isn't original or THAT impressive, especially when compared to other villains that could be used instead.

 

[Venom 1988]

Oh okay. But if they do a frame Spider-man storyline I'd prefer they use Mysterio.

Mysterio would be better for "Let **** around with Spidey's head and world" storyline

Here's the problem with Chameleon:

Either he A) has slick mimicking skills like a super-spy. He's basically Ethan Hunt from the Mission: Impossible movies because he uses latex masks and acting skills like Hunt. That's cool, but the audience has already seen it, and there are better (see: more impressive) villains that haven't been seen yet.

Or he B) has some shape-shifting abilities or a holographic suit/mask. He's basically a poor man's mystique, and again, we've already seen this. Even as recently as G.I Joe: Rise of Cobra, Zartan gained the ability to (YAWN) morph his physical features into the President.

So if they were going to use Chameleon, the first option seems cooler, more believable, interesting, and more original. But in the end, it isn't original or THAT impressive, especially when compared to other villains that could be used instead.

Or they could go with Option C, which is the as I call it "buffalo bill spy" they seem to be using him as in the current storyline.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I can't go over it right now, Chameleon IMHO, would be a great villain, I prefer to use him in a reboot; but there is a story that would fit perfectly in SM4... if they wanted to go another route, away from Lizard.

 

[Spiderine]

If they can write an excellent story utilizing Chameleon then I say go right ahead.

 

[Spiderine]

Maybe that Russian landlord of him could turn out to be the Chameleon. That'd be something!

Hell no. That goes right along with Bruce Campbell being revealed as Mysterio. No to both those ideas.

 

[Adrian89]

No Chameleon, like some people already mentioned here, there are better deserving villains and villains who can provide much better and interesting action scenes (and that's what I wanna see!), such as Scorpion or The Lizard for example!

 

[Oscorp]

Correct he doesn't get their powers, but with a villain like Chameleon you're not supposed to have an action scene anyway. So anyways, yes to Chameleon.

Agree

Chameleon wouldn't be used for action scenes. He'd just be the instigator. He'd probably frame Spider-Man for a major crime and have the entire city police after him. Stuff like that.

Exactly! That would be a cool change from all the action-serving villains.

Here's the problem with Chameleon:

Either he A) has slick mimicking skills like a super-spy. He's basically Ethan Hunt from the Mission: Impossible movies because he uses latex masks and acting skills like Hunt. That's cool, but the audience has already seen it, and there are better (see: more impressive) villains that haven't been seen yet.

Or he B) has some shape-shifting abilities or a holographic suit/mask. He's basically a poor man's mystique, and again, we've already seen this. Even as recently as G.I Joe: Rise of Cobra, Zartan gained the ability to (YAWN) morph his physical features into the President.

So if they were going to use Chameleon, the first option seems cooler, more believable, interesting, and more original. But in the end, it isn't original or THAT impressive, especially when compared to other villains that could be used instead.

I'd go with route A. I think that would be awesome in a Spidey movie. Remember, he doesn't need to be all that spectacular, as he'd probably serve as a secondary villain who pops up at times.

Mysterio would be better for "Let **** around with Spidey's head and world" storyline

Exactly! The "Spidey Gone Mad!"-storyline would be great to see. Also, it would be really cool to see the whole city all weird. He's one of my favourite villains.

By the way, I just have to say that you're probably one of the few guys at this board who's clever and always writes good things. Cudos for that!

Or they could go with Option C, which is the as I call it "buffalo bill spy" they seem to be using him as in the current storyline.

Can you explain the "buffalo bill spy" thing, please? I'm curious!

I can't go over it right now, Chameleon IMHO, would be a great villain, I prefer to use him in a reboot; but there is a story that would fit perfectly in SM4... if they wanted to go another route, away from Lizard.

Yeah, as I said, he'd be perfect as a secondary villain who pops up at times. The storyline, do you mean the Lizard+Kraven one or something else?

 

[Venom'sDad]

The storyline, do you mean the Lizard+Kraven one or something else?

Well, we don't know exactly what Sam & co. has in mind. Many of us assume Lizard would be the next villain; and, the same can be said about Kraven being a complementary villain. So to answer your question... yes.

Again, I would prefer using him in a reboot, because of what I envision the usage of the character setting up the foundation of both Peter and Norman; yet, he still provide a very intriguing story for SM4 if Sam desire to go another route away from what we as fans assume would be Lizard and Kraven.

 

[Spider-Fan83]

I don't remember if I ever mentioned it around here....

but, I had this storyline I was working on awhile back, where I had the Chameleon worked into my sequel to the lizard story, basically the idea was to have the Chameleon ( a master of disguise, con man, assassin,...ext) who hears about the lizard, and through some underground connections or something (maybe even from his half brother Kraven?) he finds out about Connors being the lizard
he travels to NY to find an abduct Connors, to try to force him to recreated the experiment to turn him into a real human Chameleon (with ability to morphing into other people) then once he has Connors captured and gets him to agree to do the experiment (through, blackmail or threats to his family,...) an after getting a list of things he'll need for the experiment, he goes out to steal, any an all equipment, supplies and/or money needed
and that when he started to run into Spidey...
(idk, never really got all the details worked out)

would something along those lines, work for anyone

 

[Catman]

it isn't original

Spider-Man isn't even that original to begin with. He works at a newspaper like Superman. He witnesses a family member dying, like Batman. He has a girlfriend who always gets kidnapped by the villain...like virtually every other superhero.

So, what's the big deal? If Spider-Man himself isn't original then why are you expecting that from the villains?

 

[Hectorminator]

Spider-Man isn't even that original to begin with. He works at a newspaper like Superman. He witnesses a family member dying, like Batman. He has a girlfriend who always gets kidnapped by the villain...like virtually every other superhero.

So, what's the big deal? If Spider-Man himself isn't original then why are you expecting that from the villains?

Spider-Man is the most original superhero in history after Superman.

His rogues' gallery is the most original in comics, in my opinion, second only to Batman. But I like Spidey's better.

His three most original villains have already been used; Doctor Octopus, Venom and the Green Goblin.

He has villains that haven't been seen yet that are FAR MORE original than the Chameleon.

Villains like: the Lizard, Kraven the Hunter, Electro, the Vulture, the Rhino and the Scorpion.

 

[Catman]

Spider-Man is the most original superhero in history after Superman.

The only original thing Stan Lee did with Spidey was making him a teenager with everyday problems. That's it. Everything else had already been done.

 

[The Slang]

Isn't chameleon all about espionage and assasination? My understanding was that he was some kind of mercinary or spy/secret agent who specialized in disguises. Why couldn't we have action with the chameleon? I think the best way to portray him would be like evil james bond with shapeshifting. I'd like him to have the wierd featureless white head and to never speak in his true form. Having him use masks and prosthetics would be much more realistic, but if he actually had shape shifting abilitites it would allow more freedom in the story. You could say he was a normal man that underwent some kind of procedure where he was inplanted with cybernetic devices that utilize holograms and/or nano bots.

 

[Hectorminator]

The only original thing Stan Lee did with Spidey was making him a teenager with everyday problems. That's it. Everything else had already been done.

Well, if that's how you feel, then we disagree.

I can list the reasons why Stan Lee, Steve Ditko, and John Romita's stories are original, but there are too many and I already gave my two cents as to why I don't think the Chameleon is worth putting on the movie screen.

 

[Oscorp]

Isn't chameleon all about espionage and assasination? My understanding was that he was some kind of mercinary or spy/secret agent who specialized in disguises. Why couldn't we have action with the chameleon? I think the best way to portray him would be like evil james bond with shapeshifting. I'd like him to have the wierd featureless white head and to never speak in his true form. Having him use masks and prosthetics would be much more realistic, but if he actually had shape shifting abilitites it would allow more freedom in the story. You could say he was a normal man that underwent some kind of procedure where he was inplanted with cybernetic devices that utilize holograms and/or nano bots.

Totally agree with the bolded parts. However, I think he should use masks and prosthetics. I think he shouldn't have much of a backstory in a movie, just being this professional mysterious assassin and spy. He'd probably be a secondary villain, so I wouldn't care if he'd not have cool powers or fighting abilities. Though, I think he should speak even in his featureless mask, with a russian accent. I actually like him alot in the Spectacular Spider-Man show, and I think something like that would be cool.

He should definitely look like this by the way, in my opinion:

I like the attitude look in that pic too by the way. I think he should be all cool and be like that, but when Spidey has the upper hand, he should show his true side: being a coward when it comes to it.

 

[Vis]

If the director of The Bourne movies was at the helm of Spider-Man, The Chameleon would be an ideal villain for him.

 

[Venom 1988]

Can you explain the "buffalo bill spy" thing, please? I'm curious!

Oh yea sorry. Basically how he's been portrayed in the current story in ASM, reminded me a lot of Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.

 

[Catman]

the best way to portray him would be like evil james bond with shapeshifting.

That'd be awesome and something different.