How come don't believe in evolution if...

[The Overlord]

Christian doctrine and evolution are opposed to each other. You cannot be a christian and believe in that. Jesus himself refered back to Adam (real historical man). Paul referred back to Adam as a real man who committed sin in the Garden). To dismiss the Genesis account does away with the original sin and that does away with the sacrifice on the cross. If there was no Adam, then there was no sin. Thus no need for a savior.

Plus Darwin's theory is based on superior species killing out the weaker. Which means that death existed before man's fall into sin. God did not create death.

God punishing the whole human race because some guy ate an apple, makes God look like a total jerk. The Genesis story works way better as a metaphor, taking that story literaly makes God into an ujnpleasant fellow and doesn't jive with several science based facts, like bio-diversity.

 

[Kritish]

I’m so glad I’m an atheist, I couldn’t stand being a Christian and knowing that God’s an ******* that punished the whole world for eating an apple.

 

[amazingdm]

Isn't it sad that there are people who feel like they have to belong to a group that won't let them decide what they believe in?

 

[sithgoblin]

Has the fossill record confirmed Darwin's theory like he promised it would?

No.

The "missing Link" is still missing.

What missing link is that, exactly?

 

[sithgoblin]

No theory.....fact.


Complexity demands and intelligence behind it.

Says who?

 

[sithgoblin]

How about we leave it at this:

Can anyone produce a link to an article that disproves evolution from a peer reviewed science journal, and not a religious website?

 

[amazingdm]

of course not, the entire backbone for biology is evolution.

 

[logansoldcigar]

I would like to ask a question here, as a commited atheist.
If God made man in his image, and assuming that as we were from the middle east in the beginning we were all more arabic in our appearance, where did all the various ethnic groups come from?


and another.

God creates Adam and Eve, right. 2 people
They have two Children, Cain and Abel. 4 people.

Cain Kills able. 3 people

Cain gets banished and finds a wife. where di she come from?

 

[gkokujin]

I'm still waiting for that missing link.

look for it on google.

 

[Tyrinus]

I would like to ask a question here, as a commited atheist.
If God made man in his image, and assuming that as we were from the middle east in the beginning we were all more arabic in our appearance, where did all the various ethnic groups come from?


and another.

God creates Adam and Eve, right. 2 people
They have two Children, Cain and Abel. 4 people.

Cain Kills able. 3 people

Cain gets banished and finds a wife. where di she come from?

You can't think like that....it's too logical.

 

[Winter Spleen]

If everyone was familiar enough with the facts, and comfortable with their existence displaced from a religion, then we would all believe in evolution.

perhaps.

 

[jks]

yeah, vestigial organs n' stuff.


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[jks]

No theory.....fact.

If you're so closed minded as to actually believe creation is FACT, then you are defeating yourself.

Complexity demands and intelligence behind it.

Wrong. I suppose you're going to use the tired "watchmaker" argument. Explain the solar system and universe. Complex, right? Yet no mention of it in the fiction book of "god's word"

In Darwin's day it was understandable to come to some of his conclusions. Looking at the cell through his microscope, led him to believe that it was primitive one-cell organism. But today, there is more information. That cell is a friggin' computer!! A factory so balanced ...so intricate...there is no way random chance put that together.

What a primitive argument. "there's no way the big fireball can be lifted into the sky without a god, it's too complex" Sound familiar?

It takes more faith to be an evolutionist:

Religion and belief in creation is faith by definition, belief that is not based on proof. Creationist logic such as "it must have..." and othe ASSUMPTIONS are not proof. The difference between faith and science is that faith asks the questions whereas science asks them, and works to answer them as opposed to taking the cp out answer. Seriously, what makes more sense, human beings have gained so much knowledge since 1900 alone, how come creationists haven't had anything other than the bible to back up their claim in over 2000 years?

 

[jks]

http://video.aol.com/video-search/Penn-Teller-Creationism-Bull****/id/611210996

 

[Sandman138]

Celldog, please don't pretend to have read and understood Darwin's theories or the theory of evolution in its current state. After all, you barely read and understand the links that you post.

 

[Victarion]

I’m so glad I’m an atheist, I couldn’t stand being a Christian and knowing that God’s an ******* that punished the whole world for eating an apple.

With all due respect, they were told not to. The woman ruined it, damned temptress. Blame them.

 

[ScottyBBadd]

I just don't.

 

[CyberFaust]

but then what about the wizard of oz?!?!?!

 

[ScottyBBadd]

but then what about the wizard of oz?!?!?!

Lame children's story.

 

[Victarion]

but then what about the wizard of oz?!?!?!

Yeah, what about that two-timming no good down low dirty rotten poser? t:

 

[Memphis Slim]

Says who?

Says common sense.

Example: You see a building. But the builder is nowhere around. You can't touch him, see him or smell him. But you have to know that that structure with the plumbing, the wiring, the exact measuerments etc, didn't just pop outta nothing. There had to be and intelligence behind it. How much more complex and balance is the universe we live in. How you can look at nature and not see a perfectly run machine is beyond me.

Wishing God away does nothing.

 

[Tyrinus]

Says common sense.

Example: You see a building. But the builder is nowhere around. You can't touch him, see him or smell him. But you have to know that that structure with the plumbing, the wiring, the exact measuerments etc, didn't just pop outta nothing. There had to be and intelligence behind it. How much more complex and balance is the universe we live in. How you can look at nature and not see a perfectly run machine is beyond me.

Wishing God away does nothing.

You can't compare an inanimate object with a living one...the comparison just doesn't work.

 

[Memphis Slim]

Slim, please don't pretend to have read and understood Darwin's theories or the theory of evolution in its current state. After all, you barely read and understand the links that you post.

See....this always devolves into personal insults when you run out of answers..... Did I insult you intellectual capacity?? I just posted something concerning how creation, order and complexity demands an intelligent mind behind it.

Instead of loading up on insults, why don't you respond cogently as to how order can come from nothing..........

 

[ScottyBBadd]

See....this always devolves into personal insults when you run out of answers..... Did I insult you intellectual capacity?? I just posted something concerning how creation, order and complexity demands an intelligent mind behind it.

Instead loading up on insults, why don't you respond cogently as to how order can come from nothing..........

Memphis, you are right. You can't get something out of nothing. If there nothing, what can evolve from nothing.

 

[Memphis Slim]

You can't compare an inanimate object with a living one...the comparison just doesn't work.

Don't simply dismiss it. Why doesn't it work? Heck the human body is even more complex than a building.....it can even heal itself!! The more complex the greater the evidence for the mind setting it up. Tell me how that is not so.

So tell me........why doesn't it work??

I'll pick up later. Going out to dinner........