How I Met Your Mother - Part 5

Erzengel said:
I don't necessarily disagree with you Matt but I forgot the thing from ****ty Pumpkin probably because it was from Season 1. Little Boys was Season 3. Having to reach back that for to reinforce Robin in the finale isn't necessarily HIMYM's style. Especially they make it a point to rehash stuff when they've had two parters or referencing stuff from other episodes/seasons.

I totally whiffed on the dogs and having roots. Although if they were as forward thinking as they were about setting them up again, they should have said something in other episodes like Robin did get a few more dogs again or while Robin wanted to travel eventually she learned to call NY her home, etc.
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I agree, they absolutely should've hammered it in a little bit. I can't help but think that the additional 18 minutes that were cut, probably do just that, reinforce the idea of Robin stepping up and becoming a mother to the children following Tracy's death. But when looking at the show as a whole, rather than a single 1 hour episode, it is certainly implied that she did just that. It is unfortunate that the writers did not bring that to the forefront more....which is why I take issue with the execution, rather than the concept.
 
I think the best case scenario is we get an extended cut, because from the sounds of it some of the cut scenes do help flesh out Robin and where she's at in life a bit more. For the sake of being somewhat surprised by the ending, I was okay with less telegraphing.

But now that it's out in the open, I don't see the harm in having an extended cut for the DVD release. In fact after all the backlash I could see CBS pushing for it.
 
That's been one of my biggest gripes about Robin is that Ted has always gone the distance for her and if she really did try and be a surrogate mother, it would have shown that she has indeed stepped up. We needed to see that and not two throw away lines from Seasons 1 and 3.
 
The fact that she's been called "Aunt Robin" all the way through the show though always implied that the kids had some sort of relationship with her. This is confirmed tenfold when we learn that the kids do love her.

Idk, to me it's more moving to imagine Ted and Robin slowly rekindling their bond after Tracy's death rather than explicitly seeing that. Sometimes you can make an emotional impact with what's omitted and conveyed through implication, rather than spoon-feeding everything.

Still would love to see all the deleted material though, don't get me wrong.
 
Again it has to do with the execution. Using assumptions or saying well when you take the series as a whole, a finale should not need that much help.
 
To me it feels right- taking things that have been sewn into the fabric of the show from the start and putting it in a slightly different perspective, thus making me appreciate the show as a whole more. It's not like I had to work too hard to get to this point. About an hour of digesting and thinking it over on Monday night and I had pretty much come to these basic conclusions, re-watching the episode a couple of times hammered home those feelings.

That's nothing compared to the four years and extensive reading it took me to finally understand and fully appreciate the genius of The Sopranos finale. :funny:
 
But from a show that hammers into you the yellow umbrella, the locket, it's more out of character to not paint the picture then for you to have a bunch of assumptions and well remember the first season? Robin dresses up for Halloween later on. Honestly I've only been really watching the show and caught up in the past 3 years and I didn't even remember that.

You said you started watching the first season again and you also said well I'm more of a fan of the first few seasons. Which really had the relationship chemistry between Ted and Robin. Telling most people well you know if you take the whole series together when a finale should somewhat stand on it's own is not asking for much. I also don't think it's too much not to have everyone run to their computer or Netflix to make the finale make more sense.
 
It's not that I had to rewatch the show in order to appreciate it. From Day 1, I always felt that it was the story of Ted and Robin. And honestly, my interest in Ted's storyline always dipped when it was focusing on other women besides Robin. So the ending to me felt like a validation of always rooting for their relationship against all odds. Just my personal feeling.

I can understand why a lot of people didn't like it, I'm only trying to make a case that it should be understandable why others do.
 
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I'm not surprised some people like it, it's like every other couple on any other show. Buffy and Spike vs. Buffy and Angel, Rachel and Ross, etc.

I'm sure a lot of the Ted and Robin fans were happy.

But it wasn't a perfect storytelling either.
 
The funny thing is I don't tend to get too invested in TV couples usually. Jim and Pam is really the only other one I rooted for a lot. So for me it's not just about being a "shipper", it's just that from a basic storytelling standpoint she always felt like the focal point for a show that's supposed to be largely Ted's POV. It made too much sense to ignore. And despite the big show made of Robin and Barney's wedding, if they didn't want us to keep believing in Ted/Robin then they wouldn't have drilled us with the whole locket saga. If they weren't going in this direction, they could have just killed the Ted/Robin story altogether. But that's the show, they would repeatedly tell you it's done and over....only to have the storyline resurface again.

Is that gimmicky and cheap storytelling? Maybe. But it's a gimmicky sitcom. I enjoyed the gimmick though.
 
its funny how every decision in this show was made to bring them together. everything.

why did Robin and Barney get a divorce? because thats what happens in real life? no. they needed Robin to be single for Ted.
why did Tracy die? because they needed to get rid of her for Ted and Robin to get a final scene. this was the idea in season 1 where of course everything was different.
reseting Barney and creating a new brocode book was of course just bad writting. insulting. status quo.
 
Barney and Robin got a divorce because they clearly shouldn't have gotten married in the first place. They were not good for each other, something always felt just a tad off about these two people who were against settling down wanting to settle down with each other. Ted and Robin were always good together, they just wanted different things and could never get the timing right.

Barney relapsing into his old self before finally finding redemption isn't bad writing. You think Barney getting a divorce with Robin but remaining "Mr. Reformed, ready to settle down" Barney would've made more sense? I think it's good use of dramatic irony that it's one of his own random sexual exploits that provides him with the one thing that will truly keep him grounded.
 
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Regardless if you think they didn't belong together, again that's not how it was portrayed. With every obstacle in their relationship, Barney usually came through in the end. Telling Robin it was Ted who found the locket, Barney doing the ice skating surprise, etc.

They really tried to build them up and obviously it was a red herring but a whole season on a wedding to be broken up for the purposes of furthering a 7-8 year old secret story agenda? They shouldn't have made Season 9 20 something episodes about the wedding then.
 
It was never "about" the wedding because the show was always "about" Ted and never "about" Barney and Robin. The wedding weekend was the setting, that's all. If the season was "about" anything, it was the fact that Ted still had feelings for Robin, to the point that he was going to move to Chicago because it would be too difficult for him to stay. And also about giving us to a glimpse into what his romance with Tracy was like. That is the main story, everything around that is a secondary story. Ideally, I think Seasons 8 and 9 would've been compressed in a half-season each, with the second half still focusing on the wedding cause I think that's a cool concept and there were clearly a lot of filler episodes. But Carter/Bays had an 8 season plan, CBS ordered one more and they had to stretch it the story. That's the way it goes.

Now I agree that Barney was pulling out all the stops and had every intention to be a great husband, but just because the story made it seem like they could possibly work out, does not mandate that them living happily ever after was the only proper way to conclude that story. Especially because they never stopped loving each other, the marriage simply wasn't working and it was a peaceful split. What would've been bad would be if Barney had cheated and relapsed to his old ways while married and Robin divorced him. That would've been too harsh. The way they handled it was fine, and they ultimately resolved Barney's story in a more fitting way.

If people feel the right to complain that they felt mislead with Barney/Robin, if they would've ended together I would've had equal right to complain that I felt mislead for the entire series with Ted/Robin.

It's just one of those things where the argument is probably going to go in circles for a long time to come. That's fine though, I kinda like that haha.
 
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My biggest knock against the first half of this season, regardless of the Finale, was that every episode seemed to show some kind of problem between Barney and Robin during the weekend, only to end with them both realizing how much they loved each other and were glad that they were going to work things out and get married. It got annoying around the 5-6th time.
 
Soooooo yeah...
‘How I Met Your Mother’ Fans To Get Their Happy Ending? Series’ DVD Set To Feature Alternate Ending To Series Finale
I have learned that the controversial sequence was not the only conclusion the HIMYM writers considered. I hear creators Carter Bays and Craig Thomas also contemplated an alternate ending, which will be included in HIMYM‘s upcoming DVD set. I hear the alternate ending does not involve additional footage but rather a different editing of the episode. HIMYM producers and studio 20th Century Fox TV would not comment on any specifics of the alternate closing, but a source described it as a “happy ending.”
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http://www.deadline.com/2014/04/how-i-met-your-mother-himym-ending-dvd-series-finale-happy/
 
I don't give a **** about an alternate ending. I just need to see those 18 minutes that got cut.
 
Alyson was playing an April Fool's prank I'm sure of it. :(
 
LibidoLoca said:
Alyson was playing an April Fool's prank I'm sure of it. :(
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Not true. There actaully has been some BTS photos of deleted scenes.
So far they've included the pic of Future ted and Robin i posted awhile back and this

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Also there was Robin Sparkles scene and a Pineapple scene.
 
Robin goes on a reunion tour as Robin Sparkles. :o
 
No she performs as Sparkles at her wedding, there is a picture of it somewhere. It wasn't an April Fools Prank the news of the 18 came on the 31st and not from Alyson.
 
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