How long can Clark hide his identity?

[InJustice]

That's incredibly unimaginative. Clark is a investigative journalist with superhuman intelligence, he shouldn't have to rely on x-ray vision for that.

Superman TAS did do that though...

It'll be incredibly hilarious if Batman dipped his cowl in Iron lead.

 

[Nathan]

Superman TAS did do that though...

It'll be incredibly hilarious if Batman dipped his cowl in Iron.

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I love how Batman just says "You peeked.".

 

[Thundercrack85]

Superman TAS did do that though...

It'll be incredibly hilarious if Batman dipped his cowl in Iron.

It does seem like Clark could figure it out without having to do that.

It would be amusing if Bruce had the cowl lead-lined, just to find out that Clark already figured it out.

 

[InJustice]

If Bruce Wayne keeps up his aloof/playboy persona, people like Clark may overlook him. But I find it hilarious that they didn't just make a connection between Batman's appearance in Metropolis hunting down the Joker with Bruce Wayne's appearance in Metropolis to negotiate a deal with Luthor...Especially if there's no Batman sighting in Gotham.

 

[Thundercrack85]

They generally dumb down Superman in the DCAU, because otherwise, Batman and Martian Manhunter wouldn't really have as much opportunity to shine.

There are a few times where Superman acts like an outright idiot in DCAU, especially post-STAS

 

[robot]

They generally dumb down Superman in the DCAU, because otherwise, Batman and Martian Manhunter wouldn't really have as much opportunity to shine.

There are a few times where Superman acts like an outright idiot in DCAU, especially post-STAS

WITH so many super senses, he will need a super brain to process everything thus superman by nature should be super smart as well.

 

[writer0327]

WITH so many super senses, he will need a super brain to process everything thus superman by nature should be super smart as well.

His father Jor-El was a brilliant scientist, so it stands to reason he would be intelligent as well.

What kind of Clark are we going to see indeed? Not the bumbling, ah shucks farm boy from Donnerverse, but a true investigative reporter. I think I like this version of Clark better, although I would prefer more characterization for Clark than Kal-El, and I have a feeling we're going to get more Kal-El than Clark.

 

[Thundercrack85]

There are a few scenes that show off his genius in Man of Steel, but you have to really pay attention. Apparently one has his reading a book about physics... or something like that.

It's sort of a thing writers either seem to forget, or downplay to make things more challenging.

 

[Mad Love]

Since when can gov keep a secret as big as this. If lois can track him down so can others. In the real world he would have been exposed a long time ago.

BUT this is a movie so its ok to play along with the premise of his secret identity

Not everyone is a Pulitzer Prize winner journalist like Lois. Like I said, they would silence the leads she used and any other loose ends they could find.

Why would he be exposed a long time ago in the real world? I think it's just as realistic the way the movie made him an a urban legend like UFO sightings and all that stuff.

If the military says Superman is working with them, why would anyone assume he has a secret identity? The only way people would find out is if they got a picture of Superman, so they could have an impersonator who didn't look like Cavill to mislead everyone.

 

[Mad Love]

WITH so many super senses, he will need a super brain to process everything thus superman by nature should be super smart as well.

Not necessarily. Being able to do more things doesn't make you smarter. Look at Stephen Hawking. He can't do much yet he's incredibly smart. The brain has different areas that operate things. It's not about being smarter. So Superman would have different areas in his brain that would control each power.

That being said, Superman would be smart especially when both his parents are intelligent. In MOS, we see his intelligence as a child with a picture of him winning the Science Fair and later on when he comes up with the plan to create a black hole.

 

[Thundercrack85]

This Pa Kent probably insisted he maintain a C average.

 

[Shikamaru]

That being said, Superman would be smart especially when both his parents are intelligent. In MOS, we see his intelligence as a child with a picture of him winning the Science Fair and later on when he comes up with the plan to create a black hole.

I don't mean to sound like I am bashing on Superman but wasn't Jor-El the one who came up with the plan to create the black hole who then taught Lois how to do it who then told Clark? He tells Lois that he knows how to stop the Kryptonians and that he will teach her how. Later we see Lois running up to Superman and telling him that she knows how to stop the Kryptonians. After that, we see Superman telling the US army how to stop the Kryptonians.

 

[sf2]

I don't mean to sound like I am bashing on Superman but wasn't Jor-El the one who came up with the plan to create the black hole who then taught Lois how to do it who then told Clark? He tells Lois that he knows how to stop the Kryptonians and that he will teach her how. Later we see Lois running up to Superman and telling him that she knows how to stop the Kryptonians. After that, we see Superman telling the US army how to stop the Kryptonians.

you are right!

 

[InJustice]

There are a few scenes that show off his genius in Man of Steel, but you have to really pay attention. Apparently one has his reading a book about physics... or something like that.

It's sort of a thing writers either seem to forget, or downplay to make things more challenging.

IIRC, he had a book by Plato...forget what it's called.

 

[Lencho01]

Didn't Goyer say in some interview that all these people know who Superman is, but will keep it a secret for him? I think he was referring to the people of Smallville at that time.

 

[Bruce Malone]

He said perry is likely in on it.

 

[robot]

Not everyone is a Pulitzer Prize winner journalist like Lois. Like I said, they would silence the leads she used and any other loose ends they could find.

Why would he be exposed a long time ago in the real world? I think it's just as realistic the way the movie made him an a urban legend like UFO sightings and all that stuff.

If the military says Superman is working with them, why would anyone assume he has a secret identity? The only way people would find out is if they got a picture of Superman, so they could have an impersonator who didn't look like Cavill to mislead everyone.

I see a lot of rationalizations... like i said, in reality, nothing anyone can do at this point will keep his identity safe... Goyer have written himself into a corner... from now on, it'll take incredulity or suspension of disbelief for his secret identity to work...

BTW: If you're thinking the gov can stop a secret like (thousands of independent reporters, investigators, hobbyists, etc who will be tracking down superman) this from getting out, then you and I are not on the same plane of existence... also, to say no one assumes he has a secret identity is the dumbest thing i have heard in a long time (no offence). He is on Earth, for god's sake.. everyone 'knows' a superhero MUST have a secret identity... Unless, superman lives in a mansion with his suit on 24/7, people are going to wonder who he is when it's out of his suit...

Not necessarily. Being able to do more things doesn't make you smarter. Look at Stephen Hawking. He can't do much yet he's incredibly smart. The brain has different areas that operate things. It's not about being smarter. So Superman would have different areas in his brain that would control each power.

That being said, Superman would be smart especially when both his parents are intelligent. In MOS, we see his intelligence as a child with a picture of him winning the Science Fair and later on when he comes up with the plan to create a black hole.

I study brain science... the higher the capacity of your brain, the smarter you are... a lot of the brain that processes one function can also process another... Most of the geniuses in the world are also extremely smart in both sciences and arts... To give you an example: A blind guy will re-assign the part of the brain that processes sight into hearing or other senses for example... Steven Hawking, without needing to say control a lot of muscles, or other functions of his body, his brain power may mostly be re-assigned to his physics...

Unless, of course you want to say that Kryptonians are stupid or their brain differs from anything we know of on Earth... again, rationalizations... but if that's written into the script, then sure, i'll buy it... if not, then i'll assume as though the brain works like a brain...

 

[robot]

His father Jor-El was a brilliant scientist, so it stands to reason he would be intelligent as well.

What kind of Clark are we going to see indeed? Not the bumbling, ah shucks farm boy from Donnerverse, but a true investigative reporter. I think I like this version of Clark better, although I would prefer more characterization for Clark than Kal-El, and I have a feeling we're going to get more Kal-El than Clark.

Exactly...

Not only genetically smart.. but when he develops super senses, brain science tells us that his brain will also have to develop more processing power to handle all of them... and the way the brain works is when a portion of the brain is not in use, it can be used for other things... so, that alone will add to his intelligence level....

 

[Mad Love]

I study brain science... the higher the capacity of your brain, the smarter you are... a lot of the brain that processes one function can also process another...

If you study brain science.... why aren't you calling it neuroscience? What I'm saying is you need to define what you mean by smart. Smart is a vague word that can mean different things regarding the brain.

Most of the geniuses in the world are also extremely smart in both sciences and arts... To give you an example: A blind guy will re-assign the part of the brain that processes sight into hearing or other senses for example... Steven Hawking, without needing to say control a lot of muscles, or other functions of his body, his brain power may mostly be re-assigned to his physics...

You're confusing A LOT of things and misunderstanding altogether what intelligence, genius, and brain plasticity is.

Steven Hawkings doesn't re-assign brain power to his physics. That's not how the brain works. Honestly, you don't sound like you know what you're talking about.

 

[robot]

If you study brain science.... why aren't you calling it neuroscience? What I'm saying is you need to define what you mean by smart. Smart is a vague word that can mean different things regarding the brain.



You're confusing A LOT of things and misunderstanding altogether what intelligence, genius, and brain plasticity is.

Steven Hawkings doesn't re-assign brain power to his physics. That's not how the brain works.

I mean, intelligence... ( I suppose you can also say intelligence can be for different things as well)... but we're talking about Clark being intelligent, like maybe smarter than anyone on Earth.. or, Lex...

And yes, higher capacity means smarter in all fields in general and can process more information quicker, meaning arriving at conclusions faster, etc...

If you understand brain-science (different from neuro-science).. neuro science is a super-set of brain science...

And yes, if your brain doesn't have to do much in terms of balancing, walking, muscle control, those capacities can be assigned elsewhere... (look this up).. you meantion why Hawkings is intelligent in terms of astro-physics.. well, he uses most of his brain function (that's not doing other things) for that purpose... it's the same as specialization..

Here's an example:

You have twin babies. For Baby A, you provide it with all sorts of stimulation from baby, and also, let it learn all kinds of things, maybe even 10 different languages, music, arts, sports, etc.. every field the child needs to learn, the brain (at below 8 years old, the human brain is extremely plastic, meaning it can grow), will then develop more pathways and grow in capacity to incorporate the ability to process everything...

For Child B, you allow him to develop like any other children..

When they are adults, Baby A, will have a far higher inteligence level (iq)... if given some problems to solve, Baby A will be able to arrive at the conclusion much faster...

And I am saying, because Superman have to develop a lot more capacity to cater to his new powers of the senses alone... (translation, bigger computer chip and processing power, think single core vs octa core)... the same bigger brain capacity also translate to 'general intelligence'...

If you dispute this, go ask your brain science professor....

 

[Mad Love]

You don't know what you're talking about, and it's made even more obvious when you don't use proper terms. Practically every line of poor grammar has a falsehood in it. What you've been talking about IS neuroscience, and you greatly misunderstand it.

Hawkings isn't intelligent because his brain "doesn't have to do much in terms of balancing, walking, muscle control". You probably don't know that he was smart before his motor functions digressed.

Your twin babies example is wrong because stimulation isn't the only factor and doesn't guarantee intelligence. You can try to stimulate some children all you want and it won't result in greater intelligence.

Bigger computer chip and processing power? You don't understand that either. First of all, chips are getting physically smaller. Secondly, there's processing speed and multi-core. Having multi-core doesn't necessarily amount to processing power.

Bigger brain capacity translate to "general intelligence"? That doesn't even mean anything because you don't use proper terms. "Bigger brain capacity" and "general intelligence" is too abstract.

What's even more laughable is you think you're knowledgeable. Sorry, just because you study it doesn't mean your understanding is proficient.

 

[robot]

You don't know what you're talking about. Practically every line of poor grammar has a falsehood in it. What you've been talking about IS neuroscience, and you greatly misunderstand it.

Definition of Brain Science: 'The branch of neuroscience concerned with the brain'

Neuroscience also involves the nervous system.

Before you simply dismiss someone who's english is not their first language, please look up your facts...

Like I said, if you think what I said made no sense to you, pick up a book and read.. or, ask your professor...

 

[Mad Love]

Definition of Brain Science: 'The branch of neuroscience concerned with the brain'

Neuroscience also involves the nervous system.

Before you simply dismiss someone who's english is not their first language, please look up your facts...

Like I said, if you think what I said made no sense to you, pick up a book and read.. or, ask your professor...

It's not that it doesn't make sense. It's that it's wrong.

You just contradicted yourself. You said neuroscience was a subset of brain science. Now you wrote brain science is a branch of neuroscience. You quoted neuroscience is concerned with the brain. Then you said, neuroscience involves the nervous system.

Do you think the brain is separate from the nervous system or something? Take your own advice but first make sure you comprehend correctly.