How much do you really care about X3 being only 103 minutes?

[JokerNick]

I really, REALLY think you guys need to cool off for a while. The studio has made it clear to us that the Festival had to guesstimate because the film wasn't locked yet. This is not a completely unrealistic circumstance when you think about it.

As far as those fans who are relentlessly bashing Ratner, FOX, the actors, the film etc. based on this foreign company's estimate, I'll say this: I hope for your sake that everything your whining about comes out true. Because if it doesn't you're going to have much egg sliding down your face come May 26th--and we will be here to remind you to wipe it off.

LS, no one on here want's this movie to fail..... many feel that the movie could have been handled better and that fox really dropped the ball when it came to making decisions that were best for the franchise, such as, keeping Singer aboard, and the movie production time..... as far as I can tell, no one really has bashed Ratner that bad, he's more talented then all of us when it comes to directing, but me personally, I feel he's average director, and that's there are better ones out there..... I really hope this movie does succeed, I hope it's the best out of the three, but I'm not counting on it............. and if it is, I will be pleasantly suprised and will admitt that even though I had reason to doubt this movie, I was wrong in doing so.....

 

[Kanon]

this was simply a guess by the Festival because 20th Century Fox couldn't confirm the true lenght of the film in time for their schedule to be published.

Told ya!

 

[JokerNick]

A realist? You people have been squealing and moaning and gnashing your teeth about a movie you haven’t even seen. It's ludicrous. You people have assumed the running time will be the death of this movie and have subsequently reamed everyone involved in the film. How very presumptuous.
It could be a steaming pile of Fantastic Four, or it could be great, I don’t know. But I’m not going to light my torch before I see the monster.

you should really read past posts before you comment, I want this movie to be good, but right now my opinion is that this movie isn't looking good, the trailers are decent, but as far as story goes, i'm not coptivated by the cure storyline, there's better routes they could have went on, but they didn't, and I will have to live with it......... just look at this movie as a hole right now, realisticaly, it doens't have much of a chance to be a great movie, there's to much going against it, plot wise, time wise, director wise, etc.......... and if I'm wrong, I will say I was wrong....... and I hope in a month I will be on here saying "wow that movie really was great... I can't believe I doubted it, that was my bad"...... you can quote me on that......

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

SEE!!!?!! Whats to worry? I told ya! it was just a guess... so within a couple weeks from now, the length will be confirmed by Fox themselves. up:

 

[JokerNick]

SEE!!!?!! Whats to worry? I told ya! it was just a guess... so within a couple weeks from now, the length will be confirmed by Fox themselves. up:

there's plenty to worry about, do you think that jsut because it's not confirmed, it's going to be longer, it could be shorter, have you thought of that??

 

[zer00]

Sweet so it could still be a bit longer


...or shorter

 

[MoiBijou]

from the main page

X-Men Running Time Not Locked in Yet
Source: 20th Century Fox
April 25, 2006


We previously reported that the Cannes Film Festival, where X-Men: The Last Stand is screening out of competition, had listed a running time of 1 hour and 43 minutes for the third film.

As we expected, this was simply a guess by the Festival because 20th Century Fox couldn't confirm the true lenght of the film in time for their schedule to be published. As of today, no running time has been locked in yet, so stay tuned.

X-Men was 104 minutes and X2: X-Men United ran 133 minutes.

115-120 mins I think if it's true Cannes made a guess... it's fine.

 

[TheVileOne]

Kinberg still said it was accurate and they don't seem to like longer movies so . . .

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

there's plenty to worry about, do you think that jsut because it's not confirmed, it's going to be longer, it could be shorter, have you thought of that??

did I say that just b/c its not confirmed, the movie will be longer? No. Will it be shorter? We Don't Know.

At least I could put aside my worries about the length for the time being. I got other things to worry about... -leaves thread-

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

LS, no one on here want's this movie to fail..... many feel that the movie could have been handled better and that fox really dropped the ball when it came to making decisions that were best for the franchise, such as, keeping Singer aboard, and the movie production time..... as far as I can tell, no one really has bashed Ratner that bad, he's more talented then all of us when it comes to directing, but me personally, I feel he's average director, and that's there are better ones out there..... I really hope this movie does succeed, I hope it's the best out of the three, but I'm not counting on it............. and if it is, I will be pleasantly suprised and will admitt that even though I had reason to doubt this movie, I was wrong in doing so.....

I still think some are ranting a bit too far. I've been on these boards through several of these films now--and each and every one has been preceded by this schizophrenic, passive/aggressive fandom. In some cases, such rants were justified (Elektra, F4, Catwoman). In other cases, they were totally misplaced (both Spider-Man films, both X-films so far, etc.).

All I'm saying is to sit tight and wait for confirmation; getting all worked up in a tizzy is unnecessary at this point. Granted, the film could very well be 103 minutes. But if it truly were, why would FOX go out of their way to inform us that the film was still being edited and that nothing was finalized? The timing is going to leak out at least 2-3 weeks prior to the film's release anyway, so what good is postponing the inevitable if such reports were firm?

Obviously there is more at work here than what meets the eye. Stop crying bloody war until you're actually wounded folks, jeez.

 

[Maze]

I really, REALLY think you guys need to cool off for a while. The studio has made it clear to us that the Festival had to guesstimate because the film wasn't locked yet. This is not a completely unrealistic circumstance when you think about it.

Ok , i read it too , thanks.

but on the other hand , Kinberg has said that it will be a smilar running time , so i don't expect some kind of miracle.

As far as those fans who are relentlessly bashing Ratner, FOX, the actors, the film etc. based on this foreign company's estimate, I'll say this: I hope for your sake that everything your whining about comes out true. Because if it doesn't you're going to have much egg sliding down your face come May 26th--and we will be here to remind you to wipe it off.

Lighnting , everybody react in their own way..you were "saddened" and confused by the announcement of the running time ( at least you seemed ) others were angry..and some bashed without a lot of thinking(and,i don't agree with ..but on the other hand not everybody has the same tools..if one is not insulting ,no harm personnaly) , others had more construct arguement.

that one don't agree with it is understandable and even welcome.

a good debate is always welcome imo.

So , i don't think that your last "general" statement was really necessary and fair.

i didn't see just bashers about all the "actors" of X3 as a whole. It was often more moderated than that.


personnaly if i'm wrong i will be more than glad..and if i'm right i will not run around bashing people that felt that X3 could be a great film with what Fox gave him.

Most of the people here are all fans of the Xmen or they would not post so often here, and i can't help but feel some kind of connection by that fact.

But the thing is ,we all react in our own way.We all have our opinion.We are different

What we need is reasoning to respect each other , to make an healty board ,nothing else.

 

[JokerNick]

did I say that just b/c its not confirmed, the movie will be longer? No. Will it be shorter? We Don't Know.

At least I could put aside my worries about the length for the time being. I got other things to worry about... -leaves thread-

there's more important things to worry about, yes, but as far as x3, it's a major concern

 

[reddog271]

edit


bad joke

 

[JokerNick]

I still think some are ranting a bit too far. I've been on these boards through several of these films now--and each and every one has been preceded by this schizophrenic, passive/aggressive fandom. In some cases, such rants were justified (Elektra, F4, Catwoman). In other cases, they were totally misplaced (both Spider-Man films, both X-films so far, etc.).

All I'm saying is to sit tight and wait for confirmation; getting all worked up in a tizzy is unnecessary at this point. Granted, the film could very well be 103 minutes. But if it truly were, why would FOX go out of their way to inform us that the film was still being edited and that nothing was finalized? The timing is going to leak out at least 2-3 weeks prior to the film's release anyway, so what good is postponing the inevitable if such reports were firm?

Obviously there is more at work here than what meets the eye. Stop crying bloody war until you're actually wounded folks, jeez.

lol.......... as long as it doesn't get personal, i think it's rather amussing, it's a good escape from school and work, like me, deeply, I guess i could honestly care less when I put this movie in perspective with the rest of my life, if this movie turns out to be a steaming pile of you know what, the only thing I'll be mad about is me wasting my money, life goes on......

 

[steelwolf]

it's going to be 88 minutes including credits. just read it on another site.

if that were true... *shudders*

 

[kytrigger]

LS, no one on here want's this movie to fail..... many feel that the movie could have been handled better and that fox really dropped the ball when it came to making decisions that were best for the franchise, such as, keeping Singer aboard, and the movie production time..... as far as I can tell, no one really has bashed Ratner that bad, he's more talented then all of us when it comes to directing, but me personally, I feel he's average director, and that's there are better ones out there..... I really hope this movie does succeed, I hope it's the best out of the three, but I'm not counting on it............. and if it is, I will be pleasantly suprised and will admitt that even though I had reason to doubt this movie, I was wrong in doing so.....

Not saying you have personally, but there has been PLENTY of Ratner bashing in the past. It's the problem with these boards in general, people have concerns that the film will be bad, so they start bashing people prematurely when they have no real proof they are doing anything wrong. The same goes for people on the defensive too. Some people believe that Ratner is a good director and that X3 will be awesome and they get defensive and start bashing Singer saying he's extremely overrated and whatnot. Either way, every single topic gets heated and people forget that we area all here to discuss a common interest of ours: a love of X-Men.

All I'm saying is to sit tight and wait for confirmation; getting all worked up in a tizzy is unnecessary at this point.

While this point has been made a hundred times, it is still a great point that needs to be repeated a hundred more times if necessary. I completely understand if some people on this board are worried about the film (I myself have some worries) but it seems that too many people have already decided that this film is doomed no matter what, and that is just a shame.

Also, kudos to LS for using the word "tizzy"

 

[Maze]

lol.......... as long as it doesn't get personal, i think it's rather amussing, it's a good escape from school and work, like me, deeply, I guess i could honestly care less when I put this movie in perspective with the rest of my life, if this movie turns out to be a steaming pile of you know what, the only thing I'll be mad about is me wasting my money, life goes on......

it's funny how often we see things the same way..
And to think that you are living in Middle west(?) and me in France lol

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

"Tizzy" is a fine word.

 

[The Top Hat]

I just head the news that the 103 minutes running time is not confirmed.

I'm happy about that.

 

[kytrigger]

"Tizzy" is a fine word.

It is. It's an awesome word. I love using scarcely heard words like that, and I hadn't heard that in a while.

 

[JokerNick]

"Tizzy" is a fine word.

i perfer two more t's and less Z's in mine personally......

 

[JokerNick]

it's funny how often we see things the same way..
And to think that you are living in Middle west(?) and me in France lol

if your ever looking for a roomy in france, let me know, lol........ can't wait to leave the mid-west, I can't keep a good farmers tan.......

 

[Maze]

if your ever looking for a roomy in france, let me know, lol........ can't wait to leave the mid-west, I can't keep a good farmers tan.......

Lol i don't for the moment , but if the occasion arose i will

Good luck in the meantime , but reading you , you don't seem to need it

Sorry people for the off topic

 

[FieryBalrog]

again, I disagree. cultural hierarchies make no sense.

you see, it's terms like "better" and "best" I have a problem with here. those are terms entirely informed by opinion. yes, taste is a different unit of measurement than understanding and insight. but I don't accept that "a subtle understanding of human nature and art, presented in a refined way" is, in and of itself, outside of film theory and aesthetic philosophy, in any way somehow superior to pure escapism or unearthing deep feelings of horror or inspiring convulsive laughter via puerile slapstick, for example. they meet different needs in society and in human psychology.



that's pretty much the definition of snobbery. important in what sense? in terms of the number of people inspired by them? in terms of developing the form? in terms of conencting with the largest number of people? "importance" has little meaning without qualification. in all seriousness, star wars is a very important film for males of my generation in that it provided a bonding experience and a common cultural language for young men at an eraly stage of their development. from the same period, blade runner may arguably be a more subtle, stylised film, and a more influential work among cineastes, but is it more "important"? it has certainly had less of a social and pscyhological impact. is it "better"? depends what criteria you use...

Is this is the sort of BS where we pretend Tupac was as good a wordsmith as Shakespeare because "cultural heirarchies make no sense"?

Cultural heirarchies do make sense. Some art is objectively better than other art. Shakespeare is better than Tupac, and Kubrick is better than Ratner. The Upanishads are better literature than Left Behind. I'm sure you can disagree, you can even agree but pretend I can't say one is better than the other, but there are people who disagree with me about the shape of the Earth also.

 

[Maze]

Last ot: reading that last debate about objectivity vs suvjectivity ,what i find fascinating is that we have exactly the same debates in France lol

We are all different , but people from different country are sometimes in a way the same , and i find that kind of reassuring..

Even when our culture are way different ,we can communicate , it's possible..