How to reboot the Fantastic Four's ORIGIN...

[Spider-Fan]

^Not bad at all. Sure some bit need to still be filled in, but it's a decent start.

I'm going to work more on this idea. I kind of like it

 

[kedrell]

I do think letting another FF villain take center stage is a good idea, but Doom & Reed are linked all the way back to their past. IMO, the FF have the best rogues gallery in comics(and I'm not really an FF fan, just aquainted with them).

 

[Spider-Fan]

The FF has some cool villains, but many I feel wouldn't work on film (at least for an origin film). If you wanted to tie their origin to the Negative Zone and have them fight Annihulus or Blastaar (similar to the Ultimate book), I guess that could work well. But for the space mission route, I think you have limited options for an origin film.

I'll brainstorm on who I can make the dictator of Latveria for my idea in a little bit. Look over the gallery of the FF again.

 

[kedrell]

The Ultimate origin is also quite clever in that it leads not to Galactus but to Annihilus and Blastaar as you said. I'd set this as a solid Plan B, but I prefer the original one more.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I prefer the space mission myself, also. We are getting a bit too ultamized in the Marvel film U for my taste, so I'd like to see the FF space mission route (though it was done already...in a less than stellar film). The advantage to the Negative Zone route would be it is different and gives us a clear villain choice, but I like the idea less, since it can't be expanded upon in later films as well.

 

[kedrell]

^I agree. Still, I enjoy the Ultimate FF.

 

[Artistsean]

The Ultimate Negative Zone idea is cool because it does introduce another villain, but its also cool because it introduces the idea of the FF being these sort of science adventurers who participate in these far out experiments and inventions and go on crazy adventures all over time and space.

I have an idea for the reboot film,
Start it out with the FF already being a famous super hero team. Do a flashback sequence about their mission to Mars and how they got their powers.
Then show in the present that Reed is running an experiment on the Negative Zone (like in the Ultimate Comic, only they already have their powers) and that is how you can being in Annihilus and/or Blastaar.
Plus you bring in both ideas (use both) and show that these are characters who travel to Mars, experiment with portals and other dimensions, and meet alien like beings.

In the sequal (FF reboot film 2) introduce the Skrulls as the alien Skrulls try to frame the FF and turn the world against them in order to conqure it.

All the while maybe using Dr. Doom as a back story.

Just some ideas.


Anyway,
What I would like to see is the FF becoming these amazing adventurer characters who have strange, awesome, and sometimes bizarre or horrifying adventures. The FF films should be films where anything can happen, from shape changing aliens to a giant eater of worlds.

I would want Reed to always be working on a new, and far out, strange, invention that looks impossible in real life.

 

[Spider-Fan]

My updated reboot:

I may or may not include 10-15 mins of Reed and Victor in college. This period would end with Victor leaving the school after his accident. I may save this scene for film 2.

Anyways, a strange anomoly is occuring in our Solar system, so Reed decides to investigate it with his team consisting of Ben, Sue, and Johnny. Anyways, things go awry, and they land the craft in a strange foreign nation. They get approached by officers asking for ID papers. They end up fighting this army, and discover they have powers (with Ben changing mid-battle). They get noticed by a rebel officer. They are then identified as enemies of the state in what turns out to be Latveria. They are then housed and protected by rebel leader, Victor Von Doom. He sees what they can do, and decided that he can help them in defeating the current ruler of Latveria and help Doom assume power. The mean ruler I plan on being the Wizard. The Wizard has 3 generals in his army that are the result of science experiments (thus, the Frightful Four). Anyways, Reed helps them defeat Wizard and company. The Wizards fighting technology is taken by Doom. This comes into play in the sequel.

In the sequel, the FF are now an established group of superheroes and have a celebrity status. Everyone loves them. Doom will have established a rapidly growing nation under his rule, and one that doesn't allow outsiders (while he fixes the nation is his excuse). Secretly, he expanded Wizards technology to create an ultimate battlesuit that makes him a match for the FF by himself. He also has secret factories that create his robot guards, or Doombots, which establish law and order in Latveria. In this film, Doom would seek to expand Latveria and almost start another World War, so he can establish a utopia as he sees Latveria elsewhere in the world. Once Reed discovers the true Latveria and sees what Doom really is, the FF stand in his way.

 

[sabetoonth]

i like that!

 

[DX]

My updated reboot:

I may or may not include 10-15 mins of Reed and Victor in college. This period would end with Victor leaving the school after his accident. I may save this scene for film 2.

Anyways, a strange anomoly is occuring in our Solar system, so Reed decides to investigate it with his team consisting of Ben, Sue, and Johnny. Anyways, things go awry, and they land the craft in a strange foreign nation. They get approached by officers asking for ID papers. They end up fighting this army, and discover they have powers (with Ben changing mid-battle). They get noticed by a rebel officer. They are then identified as enemies of the state in what turns out to be Latveria. They are then housed and protected by rebel leader, Victor Von Doom. He sees what they can do, and decided that he can help them in defeating the current ruler of Latveria and help Doom assume power. The mean ruler I plan on being the Wizard. The Wizard has 3 generals in his army that are the result of science experiments (thus, the Frightful Four). Anyways, Reed helps them defeat Wizard and company. The Wizards fighting technology is taken by Doom. This comes into play in the sequel.

In the sequel, the FF are now an established group of superheroes and have a celebrity status. Everyone loves them. Doom will have established a rapidly growing nation under his rule, and one that doesn't allow outsiders (while he fixes the nation is his excuse). Secretly, he expanded Wizards technology to create an ultimate battlesuit that makes him a match for the FF by himself. He also has secret factories that create his robot guards, or Doombots, which establish law and order in Latveria. In this film, Doom would seek to expand Latveria and almost start another World War, so he can establish a utopia as he sees Latveria elsewhere in the world. Once Reed discovers the true Latveria and sees what Doom really is, the FF stand in his way.

*reads through*

I like.

 

[Jordacar]

Okay, here’s what I’m thinking now:

00:00-00:10 – First scene is the launch into space. The opening credits play over a news report about the space mission where we get backstory details about Reed, Johnny, Sue and Ben, along with interviews assorted interviews and stuff (it’s kinda like the early scenes in Iron Man and Tropic Thunder). We also introduce Dr. Storm, both on the news and on Mission Control. I’m not sure exactly what the mission would be, but it might be something Negative Zone-related. For now, lets say that there’s a “tear in the fabric of space” (probably discovered by Reed in the first place), so they’re going up to investigate.

00:10-00:35 – After the credits and the news report, we transition to the Four watching the news report. It’s now a few days after the launch, and they’re ready to check out the tear-in-space-thing. Stuff goes wrong, things get really suspenseful (think Apollo 13 or Star Trek IV). They bail in the escape pods and the ship crashes. For this I really liked how “Heroes Reborn” handled things, so I’d want to see something like that; dark and kinda scary, especially with Ben’s transformation, but no Mole Man. Not yet anyways.

00:35-01:00 – After they’ve gotten back together and gotten a handle on their powers, the rescue team arrives, along with SHIELD, who takes them into custody to debrief them. They cool their heels in the brig for a bit. Dr. Storm tries to convince Fury to let them out, they’re not a threat, etc. Then something big goes down. Let’s say Mole Man attacks the city. The Four bust/sneak out, take on Mole Man’s baddies (cool and heroic this time, not tripping over themselves like in the first film). They save the day, it’s big news, they’re heroes.

That’s all within the first hour, and we’re off.

 

[bubbadoom]

So 45 minutes of so into a third FF movie, and we are exactly where we where before the movie started. Why waste a third to half of a new movie going over the same ground as before.
At least TIH just ignored what they did not like from the Ang Lee version and just moved ahead. Any recap of the origin [if at all] could be done via an opening title sequence or a few lines of dialogue.
I do not see what the point of bring Dr. Storm into this. Seems like he would just take away from Reed.

 

[Jordacar]

^^^Why do you think I made a seperate thread?

 

[Mario_Galaxy]

I like the idea of making FF a period piece set in the 60's/70's. I'd make it into a full on adventure story with Annihulus and wouldn't introduce Doom until the sequel. Maybe even save him for the third like Mandarin for Iron Man 3.

 

[Obi-Ron]

I think I have figured out a good way to reboot the Fantastic Four Franchise,

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But a Prime Time animated TV show with quality writing, and awe inspiring animation.[/FONT]

I didn't see this post earlier....Those Timm sketches are like Kirby Jr....this could be the greatest series ever made if they did it, and took the job seriously.

 

[kedrell]

I like the idea of making FF a period piece set in the 60's/70's. I'd make it into a full on adventure story with Annihulus and wouldn't introduce Doom until the sequel. Maybe even save him for the third like Mandarin for Iron Man 3.

Save Doctor Doom, sure. But have a few tidbits in earlier films with Victor Von Doom being Reed's peer in college.

 

[Judson Caspian]

It overestimated the character's fame, leaving kids and new viewers in the dark.

No, it didn't. Superman: The Movie was available everywhere when it was released and it still is.

Superman Returns was altogether bad, though. As with X-Men, Bryan Singer wasn't the right director for the movie.

 

[[A]]

why is people calling Superman Returns a reboot ?

 

[Jordacar]

The word 'reboot' is kinda broad

 

[sabetoonth]

No, it didn't. Superman: The Movie was available everywhere when it was released and it still is.

Superman Returns was altogether bad, though. As with X-Men, Bryan Singer wasn't the right director for the movie.

whoawhoawhoa whoa whoa,singer was the perfect director for the x-films

 

[Jordacar]

whoawhoawhoa whoa whoa,singer was the perfect director for the x-films

Agreed, give the guy some credit. Nobody knew how to make a live-action X-Men movie before the first one came out.

 

[Jordacar]

I just realized the best reason to retell the origin, and that's if they want to go the Batman Begins route; if the filmmakers want to make it clear to the GA that the next film is completly seperate from the previous films. If they want to leave it ambiguous, then sure, skip the origin and get on with the story.

Maybe that's why I'm kind of enamored to the idea of a restart, because I actually do want to wipe away all the sins of Fox's FF films and begin fresh.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Have "The Fantastic Four" characters and four other characters all together when their bodies get zapped giving them superpowers.Have the other four characters become "The Frightful Four".

Four against four.

 

[Kelly]

I like the idea of making FF a period piece set in the 60's/70's. I'd make it into a full on adventure story with Annihulus and wouldn't introduce Doom until the sequel. Maybe even save him for the third like Mandarin for Iron Man 3.

I don't like the idea of a retro-FF...

Scientist goes into space with is BF to fight the commies with his actress girlfriend and her stowaway little brother, just doesn't hold alot of intrigue to me.

Plus, I don't like the whole "damsel in distress, hand up in front of the face" Sue...


I say, get a writer worth something, and a director that knows what he's doing....and continue on.

 

[Artistsean]

The Fantastic Four should be as fantastic as Harry Potter or a movie like that.
Where fantastic things are happening all the time.