FANTASTIC FOUR REBOOT: How would you do it?

I was just looking at the Heroes Reborn tpb at the store. I don't know who on this board was old enough to have read that back in the day, but I remember thinking that the first issue would have made a great movie (or at least the first part of a movie), and looking at it again, I still think so. Especially the scenes when they're limping out of their escape pods and their powers are kicking on.
 
Here's a brief proposal of how I would envision a 4-movie FF franchise:

Part 1: Fantastic Four
--Origin of the 4, battle with Mole Man
Part 2: Fantastic Four: Doomsday (maybe not the best title, but more original than "Rise of Doom")
Part 3: Fantastic Four: Inhuman
--The Frightful Four and the Inhumans, much like on the 90's cartoon.
Part 4: Fantastic Four: Galactic Storm
--Silver Surfer and the REAL Galactus

If the fourth one is successful, another 4-part franchise could be made, probably with a new cast. Then I would do the Negative Zone, the Skrulls, (Chitauri-style), and maybe Namor, if he didn't have his own film by that point.
 
a composite of the 616 and ultimate origins, would that work?
 
a composite of the 616 and ultimate origins, would that work?

I don't think so. Millar and Bendis changed almost every detail when they did Ultimate FF, including weaving in Doom's origin, which never seems to work.
 
Not only does Doom's origin have to be made part of the story somehow, it also seems that the FF's origin needs to have a strong connection to it as well. I hate it when origin scenes comes off as "bonus scenes that don't really have anything to do with the main story."

This is a bit specific, but simply meant as an example:
Start out with a mother or older sibling of a poor family telling some youngsters the tale of the ruler of their country... a ruler known as Victor Von Doom. Going into how his mother was apparently abducted to another dimension by some kind of extra-dimensional being which may or may not be a "demon". How Victor left his country to find a way to get her back. "Some say he sought answers in mysticism, the dark arts, some say he sought it in science. Maybe it was both."

This would then transition into a time period set in the past, when Victor goes to the same University as Reed. We'd get a introduction the Sue, Ben and Johnny as well, and the idea that Victor is trying to find a way to punch through to other dimensions (to find and save his mother). His experiment goes wrong however, and leaves him terribly scarred. He blames Reed, who had warned Victor about perceived errors in his calculations.

Flash forward to the present. A bunch of powerful creatures/monsters have been showing up all over the world, and a joint effort, under the supervision of Reed Richards to find the cause has led to Reed and his friends working at a space station in orbit around the Earth, trying to intercept "energies" that Reed suspects are what forms/causes the monsters. Something goes wrong (due to sabotage we'll later find out) and the Fantastic Four are formed.
For a while they are heroes. They travel the world doing battle with these creatures, while Reed is to find out where they're coming from.

It is then revealed that these monsters are being pulled from other dimensions as a side-effect of new experiments performed by Doom. The accident that formed the FF was sabotage in order to stop their research, again Doom's work.

The conclusion would have Doom lure the FF into the parallel dimension with the demon in it, and force the FF to help Doom fight this demon. In the end the FF manage to escape before the portal to this dimension closes, with the last we see of Doom being him stubbornly struggling alone against the demon. Very likely captured there, locked in battle "forever".

Something like that (in spirit, and in how it connects the different story lines). I'd have the film imply Doom's connection to mysticism and dark arts, and have him perform some amazing things... but have it so that you could assume he's using advanced technology.
The story would have to both feel "epic" and still have a sense of fun and humor.

Clearly you have to sacrifice some of the faithfulness when it comes to story in order to make it work, but personally I wouldn't mind it as long as the spirit of it is intact.
 
Not only does Doom's origin have to be made part of the story somehow, it also seems that the FF's origin needs to have a strong connection to it as well. I hate it when origin scenes comes off as "bonus scenes that don't really have anything to do with the main story."

This is a bit specific, but simply meant as an example:
Start out with a mother or older sibling of a poor family telling some youngsters the tale of the ruler of their country... a ruler known as Victor Von Doom. Going into how his mother was apparently abducted to another dimension by some kind of extra-dimensional being which may or may not be a "demon". How Victor left his country to find a way to get her back. "Some say he sought answers in mysticism, the dark arts, some say he sought it in science. Maybe it was both."

This would then transition into a time period set in the past, when Victor goes to the same University as Reed. We'd get a introduction the Sue, Ben and Johnny as well, and the idea that Victor is trying to find a way to punch through to other dimensions (to find and save his mother). His experiment goes wrong however, and leaves him terribly scarred. He blames Reed, who had warned Victor about perceived errors in his calculations.

Flash forward to the present. A bunch of powerful creatures/monsters have been showing up all over the world, and a joint effort, under the supervision of Reed Richards to find the cause has led to Reed and his friends working at a space station in orbit around the Earth, trying to intercept "energies" that Reed suspects are what forms/causes the monsters. Something goes wrong (due to sabotage we'll later find out) and the Fantastic Four are formed.
For a while they are heroes. They travel the world doing battle with these creatures, while Reed is to find out where they're coming from.

It is then revealed that these monsters are being pulled from other dimensions as a side-effect of new experiments performed by Doom. The accident that formed the FF was sabotage in order to stop their research, again Doom's work.

The conclusion would have Doom lure the FF into the parallel dimension with the demon in it, and force the FF to help Doom fight this demon. In the end the FF manage to escape before the portal to this dimension closes, with the last we see of Doom being him stubbornly struggling alone against the demon. Very likely captured there, locked in battle "forever".

Something like that (in spirit, and in how it connects the different story lines). I'd have the film imply Doom's connection to mysticism and dark arts, and have him perform some amazing things... but have it so that you could assume he's using advanced technology.
The story would have to both feel "epic" and still have a sense of fun and humor.

Clearly you have to sacrifice some of the faithfulness when it comes to story in order to make it work, but personally I wouldn't mind it as long as the spirit of it is intact.

Hmmm... very well conceived. I seriously think this would flow together much better than the film that was made. I like how you fazed out the space travel aspect of the origin and still made the whole thing work.

However, it still lacks something that was missing from Doom in the movies, which was him kicking the crap out of the FF. In your version, like the actual movie, Doom is part of the process of the FF becoming heroes (which I guess is typical of the villain in the origin movie), where I still want to see a whole movie where he wipes the floor with them, and then they come back and win.

Then again, maybe that is in your version and I just need to read between the lines.
 
^ Sure, why not. It's not like I actually wrote a script or anything, and of course seeing Doom fight the FF is a must.
I was mostly trying to get across the idea of weaving all origins into the main story line, while keeping the main story line feeling "epic" or at least large in scope, and still having Doom more like his comic book self.
The first FF film suffered because it was basically just FF's origin and then a little skirmish with Doom near the end. Doom didn't even really have any plan that needed to be thwarted.

I gotta admit though, I sort of took most of this (in terms of spirit) from Ghostbusters, which is a film I feel in many ways resembles what an FF movie should be like (again, in spirit).

EDIT:
As for casting, I think Chris Evans was a good choice for Johnny, but otherwise I felt all choices (for the FF and Doom) to be less than perfect.
Ioan Gruffudd is a decent actor, but he has a sort of boyish look to him that doesn't go well together with how I view Reed Richards. Anyone playing Reed would have to look a bit more mature.
An interesting choice for Reed Richards would be... I dunno... Viggo Mortensen?

As for Doom, I know it's a bit uninspired since he already played a character wearing a static mask throughout an entire movie, but I think Hugo Weaving would be right for the part.
 
I would go with the idea that for the first movie the villain would be someone other than Dr.Doom. In the second,Doom is the threat. Third,is Galactus..ends with Reed and Sue getting married. A spin off can be done,franchise over.
 
My reboot would be a Victor von Doom biopic. :doom:
 
Third,is Galactus..ends with Reed and Sue getting married. A spin off can be done,franchise over.

Most serial comic franchises have enough material to continue longer then a trilogy.

Even the franchises with movies completed like Spider-man, Batman, Superman, Fantastic Four, X-men, Daredevil, Hulk have barely tapped into their potential.

That's one of the major reasons super-hero comic adaptions differ from regular movies. They aren't like horror movies with very little depth to cover so they have to repeat the concept to make a new film. They have tonnes of that material built-in for new stories.
 
Fantastic Four should be used as a platform for other films, look how many quality films we could get from them, Namor, Inhumans, BLack Panther, and possibly Silver Surfer. have a cameo of Thing v Hulk, there is massive potential........
 
Ha Tom Cruise as Dr. Doom! - no acting required there!

I think one of the main problems with FF was casting Doom so young. He should have been played more along the lines of McKellen's Magneto.
 
I agree that Doom must be apart of the origin. I mean, the first 15 minutes of Fantastic Four was great. It started to get bad AFTER the cosmic storm went through the space station.
 
Only if Reed is in college at the beginning of the movie.
They could show Reed & Vic in college at the beginning in flashback, then that'd be the last we see of Vic until the end, which teases Vic/Doom for the sequel.
I think one of the main problems with FF was casting Doom so young. He should have been played more along the lines of McKellen's Magneto.
Except remember that Reed and Victor were college buddies, so they should be around the same age. I think the real problem with Doom in the movie was that he was too one-dimensional. He's vain, he's spoiled, he's in love with himself, and that's it; nothing about saving his mother's soul, nothing about his Latverian upbringing (hinted at, never explained).
 
Ha Tom Cruise as Dr. Doom! - no acting required there!

I think one of the main problems with FF was casting Doom so young. He should have been played more along the lines of McKellen's Magneto.

I disagree too. Victor and Reed should be fairly close in age (I always figured boy genius Reed was younger.) However, I agree that Doom should definitely have had a level of gravitas on par with Magneto.
 
Reed, Doom and Ben should be close in age. Sue and Johnny should be younger This last cast's age was all over the place.
 
Alexis Denisof as Reed Richards/ Mr. Fantastic
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Rachael Taylor as Sue Storm/ Invisible Woman
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or if you feel like going older...

Naomi Watts as Sue Storm/ Invisible Woman
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Matt Barr as Johnny Storm/ Human Torch
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Aaron Douglas as Ben Grimm/ The Thing
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Clive Owen as Victor Von Doom/ Dr. Doom
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or

Daniel Craig as Victor Von Doom/ Dr. Doom
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First off this thread belongs in the F4 boards. Second of all there already is a reboot thread on the F4 boards.
 
My suggestions:

Ioan Gruffud as Mr. Fantastic
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Michael Chiklis as The Thing
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Cameron Diaz as Invisible Woman
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Ryan Reynolds as The Human Torch
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Julian McMahon as Dr. Doom
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Bye
 

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