Hype User Reviews: Star Trek XI

[Matt]

Happy you liked it, Matt.

Thank you, to be honest, I don't see how any one could dislike it and I think the poll proves that. I don't think I've ever seen such a united poll on the Hype. It was just an amazing cinematic experience and it totally changed all my pre-conceived notions about what Star Trek is. It says something when my only critique is that I wanted more and thus it felt rushed

 

[Matt]

Ew, scuse me, but yea I was paying attention.

Why go to Starfleet academy and have protocol, rank, and logic drilled into you FOR YEARS and just throw it all away UNQUESTIONABLY when "Captain McCocky DBag" takes control.

As much as I LOVED this movie for all kinds of reasons, casting characterization and direction being some of those reasons; what this came down to was JJ yelling PLACES EVERYONE YOU KNOW FOR THE SEQUEL / FRANCHISE for two hours and then screaming ACTION, ACTION, ACTION.

But you know what, I'm seeing it again in IMAX, so nya!

I wish we saw more of Kirk's time at the Academy and they showed him excel as an officer candidate, it may help justify this. But I'd imagine Pike's promotion to admiral may have played a role in Kirk's promotion. Pike seemed to understand that emotion is a big part of being a good captain and the ability to make decisions that oppose protocol plus he clearly saw tons of potential in Kirk. I'm sure having an admiral backing you would be a pretty big advantage.

 

[C. Lee]

Thank you, to be honest, I don't see how any one could dislike it and I think the poll proves that. I don't think I've ever seen such a united poll on the Hype. It was just an amazing cinematic experience and it totally changed all my pre-conceived notions about what Star Trek is. It says something when my only critique is that I wanted more and thus it felt rushed

Yeah....makes me feel sorry for those Trekkies who are moaning on youtube.

 

[Matt]

Some people just can't accept that sometimes change is a good thing.

 

[C. Lee]

I'm sure having an admiral backing you would be a pretty big advantage.

Having Spock Prime around probably didn't hurt either.

 

[C. Lee]

Some people just can't accept that sometimes change is a good thing.

For storylines and underwear......

 

[The Guard]

Some of you are mistaking me saying Nero is "shallow" for "Nero's motivations aren't believable".

Nero's motivations are certainly a little hard to swallow, but this is a fictional movie, so it's believeable on some level. None of your real world examples begin to resemble a man who kills billions and billions and billions of innocents because someone failed to save his homeworld. If there'd been more exploration into the Federation's actions, and Nero's assessment of them...I would completely understand his hatred of the Federation. As such, no, it feels incredibly forced and misplaced. And even THAT, as apparent as it is, isn't explored in the slightest.

"You're looking too deep"?

"Just enjoy it for what it is"?

No thank you. I'll take films that explore issues and ideas and raise interesting questions (as the original Trek did) and debate, not films that just present villains who talk in a single sentence about why they're doing what they're doing and run around screaming about revenge. If I want that, I'll watch something like SPY KIDS.

Once again:

I don't have a real problem with the man's basic motivations. His world blew up. His loved one's died. He's angry and hurting.

Telling us that in a sentence or two is not sufficient exploration of the concept. It does the concept a massive, massive disservice. We need to see something else, some extension of his plot, some moral exploration so that the audience is allowed to make their own conclusions about Nero's actions, the Federation's actions, etc, and not simply told "He's a bad guy, see how much he's jumping around and yelling at people? Look, he just killed a man unprovoked".

Otherwise he's a damned mad scientist. And STAR TREK deserves better than that.

 

[Goddessreicho]

For me, the good, better, best and FN wow factor of this blew out any point of me being super critical.

The fact that the characterizations were so on point...its just wow, no words.

Yes, I know there's so very much to be desired, but for the first time in a long time, that's a good thing for me. It leaves me asking for more. Longer sequels, more crazy, more complex science / simple analogies, more dead red-shirts... This reboot deserves all the goodness that will follow it.

Edit:

More Scottie (PLEASE!)
MORE BONES
More hyper Ruskie
More painfully likable Sulu
More Zach
More Zoe
More Zach & Zoe Chemistry....
Somewhat less Whatisface

 

[Matt]

And some mistake overly wordy with intelligent. Frankly, I never found anything about the original Trek to be all that intelligent. It was preachy and I honestly don't want to be lectured by a sci-fi show about guys in spandex flying a space ship. I watch something like that to be entertained, not talked down to.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Ew, scuse me, but yea I was paying attention.

Why go to Starfleet academy and have protocol, rank, and logic drilled into you FOR YEARS and just throw it all away UNQUESTIONABLY when "Captain McCocky DBag" takes control.

As much as I LOVED this movie for all kinds of reasons, casting characterization and direction being some of those reasons; what this came down to was JJ yelling PLACES EVERYONE YOU KNOW FOR THE SEQUEL / FRANCHISE for two hours and then screaming ACTION, ACTION, ACTION.

But you know what, I'm seeing it again in IMAX, so nya!

I didn't mean to insult you or anything, I was just trying to describe why it happened.

When you're out there in the real world or in this case the universe, logic and training doesn't really apply. It all comes down to survival. You have to do what you think is right. Kirk stepped up to the plate and he was rewarded because of it.

 

[Nivek]

Otherwise he's a damned mad scientist. And STAR TREK deserves better than that.

Like Malcom McDowells mad scientist in Star Trek: Generations that killed Kirk? I still remember the pre-internet fanboy complaints from that film when I was in college, people saying a no-name character killed Kirk.

 

[Goddessreicho]

I wish we saw more of Kirk's time at the Academy and they showed him excel as an officer candidate, it may help justify this. But I'd imagine Pike's promotion to admiral may have played a role in Kirk's promotion. Pike seemed to understand that emotion is a big part of being a good captain and the ability to make decisions that oppose protocol plus he clearly saw tons of potential in Kirk. I'm sure having an admiral backing you would be a pretty big advantage.

Thank you! As much Academy time there was, it felt like there wasn't enough. That's driving me crazy because I don't think the series will ever go back there with that crew.

 

[The Guard]

I don't know. Haven't seen GENERATIONS in years and years. Was planning on doing so in a few days. I guess that part's spoiled. .

 

[DorkyFresh]

Telling us that in a sentence is not sufficient exploration of the concept. It does the concept a massive, massive disservice. We need to see something else, some extension of his plot, some moral exploration so that the audience is allowed to make their own conclusions about Nero's actions, the Federation's actions, etc, and not simply told "He's a bad guy, see how much he's jumping around and yelling at people? Look, he just killed a man unprovoked".

Otherwise he's a damned mad scientist. And STAR TREK deserves better than that.

i somewhat agree that they should've expanded on Nero's role, but i also know that the point of this movie was to revive the franchise by solidifying the casual fans and bringing in more fans that were never into Star Trek at all...and doing that requires having a run time that is hefty but not bulky.

now they could've ditched some scenes in favor of fleshing out Nero's circumstances, but they had an AWFUL LOT to explain in 2 hours and i'd rather see most of that time go into developing the characters who will matter in future ventures. hopefully we will see some deleted scenes or a director's cut that will expand on Nero's role but as a theater experience, i don't mind seeing this villain's dynamics take a backseat to the dynamics that will ultimately matter when it comes to making the sequel.

the way i see it this movie is kinda like Batman Begins because it's not nearly perfect...but it sets up the franchise in a way that J.J. and crew can realize it's full potential much in the same way TDK is the realization of Batman's full potential.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Some of you are mistaking ne saying Nero is "shallow" for "Nero's motivations aren't believable".

Nero's motivations are certainly a little hard to swallow. None of your real world examples begin to resemble a man who kills billions and billions and billions of innocents because someone failed to save his homeworld. If there'd been more exploration into the Federation's actions, and Nero's assessment of them...I would completely understand his hatred of the Federation. As such, no, it feels forced and misplaced. And even THAT, as apparent as it is, isn't explored in the slightest.

"You're looking too deep"?

"Just enjoy it for what it is"?

No thank you. I'll take films that explore issues and raise interesting questions (as the original Trek did), not films that just present villains who talk in a single sentence about why they're doing what they're doing and run around screaming about revenge. If I want that, I'll watch something like SPY KIDS.

Once again:

I don't have a real problem with the man's motivations. His world blew up. His loved one's died. He's angry and hurting.

Telling us that in a sentence or two is not sufficient exploration of the concept. It does the concept a massive, massive disservice. We need to see something else, some extension of his plot, some moral exploration so that the audience is allowed to make their own conclusions about Nero's actions, the Federation's actions, etc, and not simply told "He's a bad guy, see how much he's jumping around and yelling at people? Look, he just killed a man unprovoked".

Otherwise he's a damned mad scientist. And STAR TREK deserves better than that.

I can understand but dude, you have to unwind some. It's okay to like things that don't have explanation or lots and lots of depth, that doesn't make it bad. How it's presented itself and its execution is more of a reason to like it (this could be what you mean? If so, than it's fine) Like Die Hard. Or Lethal Weapon. Solid action films that are nothing but action films but are great films themselves. They have brains, but they're action films first.

Don't tell me you don't like the occasional brainless blockbuster? Part of going to films is enjoyment. I like doing the same as you, but sometimes, I want to be entertained while sometimes entertained and challenged.

 

[Matt]

Thank you! As much Academy time there was, it felt like there wasn't enough. That's driving me crazy because I don't think the series will ever go back there with that crew.

Agreed. I think showing more time at the Academy and maybe displaying Kirk as some kind of prodigy (who of course had a rebellious streak) and maybe a bit more development of his relationship with Pike would've gone a long way.

 

[Doctor Jones]

i somewhat agree that they should've expanded on Nero's role, but i also know that the point of this movie was to revive the franchise by solidifying the casual fans and bringing in more fans that were never into Star Trek at all...and doing that requires having a run time that is hefty but not bulky.

now they could've ditched some scenes in favor of fleshing out Nero's circumstances, but they had an AWFUL LOT to explain in 2 hours and i'd rather see most of that time go into developing the characters who will matter in future ventures. hopefully we will see some deleted scenes or a director's cut that will expand on Nero's role but as a theater experience, i don't mind seeing this villain's dynamics take a backseat to the dynamics that will ultimately matter when it comes to making the sequel.

Exactly. This is about the rising of the crew of the Enterprise. Anything else could hurt the pacing. We have no idea how the film could of flowed really. It's alot to tell in two hours.

I think the KM sequence pretty much showed how Kirk acted in the academy that we didn't see. Still brash and cocky. I don't need to see that. I'll fill it in for myself.

 

[squeekness]

Thank you, to be honest, I don't see how any one could dislike it and I think the poll proves that. I don't think I've ever seen such a united poll on the Hype. It was just an amazing cinematic experience and it totally changed all my pre-conceived notions about what Star Trek is. It says something when my only critique is that I wanted more and thus it felt rushed

United poll? Did you see the one for Iron Man? It was just like thisone and well deserved. Both movies were awesome! Star Trek was so good we went to see it twice!

 

[Matt]

Also, is it me or was the monster who attacked Kirk a distant cousin of Abrams' Clover? If so, cool easter egg.

Though that scene, and Scotty in the pipes kinda disappointed me. I agree with the reviewer who claimed that it was like Abrams had A.D.D. and just couldn't let five minutes pass without some sort of action sequence. They could've maybe used that time to better develop Kirk at the Academy or his relationship with Pike.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Also, is it me or was the monster who attacked Kirk a distant cousin of Abrams' Clover? If so, cool easter egg.

i noticed that while watching the 'Ice Planet' clip a while back. i love the creature designs in this film...


...hell, i love ALL the designs in this film...from the sets, to the costumes, to the architecture, to the ships themselves. all the designs were ace in my book.

 

[Nivek]

I don't know. Haven't seen GENERATIONS in years and years. Was planning on doing so in a few days. I guess that part's spoiled. .

My deal about Star Trek is that it's never had strong memorable villains, despite casting decent actors in the villian roles. Kahn is the one that people remember, but the series has always tried to paint the villains in strong shades of gray (except the Klingons and Borg on TNG movies).

 

[Rocker22]

Also, is it me or was the monster who attacked Kirk a distant cousin of Abrams' Clover? If so, cool easter egg.

Though that scene, and Scotty in the pipes kinda disappointed me. I agree with the reviewer who claimed that it was like Abrams had A.D.D. and just couldn't let five minutes pass without some sort of action sequence. They could've maybe used that time to better develop Kirk at the Academy or his relationship with Pike.

Well the same guy made the monster.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I was about to say that.

I loved the trick of the first beast and then the bigger monster coming out. It's like how can this get any worse? ****, it just did.

 

[squeekness]

I was about to say that.

I loved the trick of the first beast and then the bigger monster coming out. It's like how can this get any worse? ****, it just did.

Isn't that a Lucas trick? It reminded me of when Obie Wan and Jar Jar and Anakin were in that underwater craft and the big creature kept getting eaten by the even bigger one....

 

[Bat-Mite]

Great film. I stopped considering myself a Trek fan a long time ago, but went to go see this movie because the trailers convinced me it would be good. It wasn't just good, it was great! Easily one of the best (if not THE best) Star Trek movies ever made. I was pleasantly surprised. I give it a 9.5/10.