I Am Doom....discuss me [merged-2]

It...is? i mean, it's good in the sense that the FF's characters are very respected, but...Von Doom as a businessman? Marrying Sue Storm? When has he EVER been interested in her other than to lure Richards (the ACCURSED Richards, excuse me) into his traps? And...he's a modern-day king, or emperor, and...and...HE WEARS METALLIC ARMOR, NOT ORGANIC WHATEVER!!!
"Enough! Doom has had all he can stand and he can't stands no more!!
-Mego Doom, from Twisted Toyfare Theater
 
I would much rather see a live-action Twisted Toyfare Theater Fantastic Four story (Dr. Doom as an obsessive incompetent, Reed Richards as an arrogant bastard, Sue as the town bicycle, the Thing as a raunchy jerk, H.E.R.B.I.E. as a sadistic sex offender, Franklin as a horrid brat) used as the official adaptation of the comic book than see whatever trashy revamp they're planning for this movie as far as CEO Doom goes. At least then it would be funny and intelligent, if not scatological and inappropriate for young-un's.
 
Anyways also instead of a motel make them stay at Alicia's place, she gave them the adress or Thing before he went back to Baxter. That makes her role more prominent.

Anyways here we go:

-After crawling inside the Baxter Building from below they end up in a main hall. Where giant machines attack them and Thing yells for the second time "IT'S CLOBBERIN' TIME!"

All kind of anarchy breaks out, and since the action is hard to write, well it is impressive. Oh and this fight is big, and they used their powers a few times when saving people, and in a montage of military training with them. But since only Human Torch and Thing had been really using their powers a lot, here we get to see Mr. Fantastic break loose to save his beloved Sue who he had just rekindled a romance for.

-They defeat them and are given free passage via special elevator to the top floor. It has been reconstructed as a cathedral, but not as in homage to Lon Chaney's Le Fantom de l'Opera. And appearing from the mist comes Dr. Doom.

-"Very theatrical" remarks Reed. Dr. Doom scoffs off the remark reclaiming his name as Dr. Doom. He then sends some giant robot monstrosity trap that the three barley destroy to Doom's shock in a suspensful scene, but he then lets Sue out when ordered. In her red dress she takes Doom's side, and falls into his arms. They kiss and he feels her, as doing so she begins crushing the FF in bubbles. Reed pleads with her to fight this. She slowly but surely does, and the bubbles go off and Doom takes her and says "No you're mine!" And as he embraces with her Reed throws the locket at her feet, she picks it up and then sees Johnny throw his at her. She puts them together, the blankness in her eyes evaporates. She then disappears into invisiblity and the FF charge Doom, but Doom sends out little minions who all, now all four (Sue fighting too) destroy these flying robot minions (too razorbats from SM1?)

-Doom pulls a lever as victory is theirs. A wall opens and before he steps inside he pushes a key code locking the lever and setting a chain reaction. The control case has C4 wired in it. It and the top of the building will blow exclaims Doom, and they have 4 seconds (afterall 5 is just too long ;) ) to live. The panel in the wall shuts as Doom walks in.

-Sue throwing a comforting Reed off takes the bomb and covers it in a perfect bubble and sphere that she lifts in the middle of the room. The whole FF looks worried....can she handle it? Can she handle the power? Then it goes off and the room lights up with fire and the sphere expands so far it is pushing them all to the walls, it looks as if they are about to be engulfed in flames, but in a burst of rage and determination Sue pushes the bubble closer together and contains the blast!

-They all take a breather and Reed and Sue rush to each other. As they embrace Johnny tales Ben to reopen that wall. Ben gladly smashes through. Only to fall down a poopchute if you will is the result. As he falls through the slide in the floor Johnny grits his teeth and jumps after him. Sue and Reed look at each other and nod and jump into the chute too.

-This takes them to an underground personal railway system that runs in the subway. There are two hyped up supercars. Dr. Doom is about to enter the first one. He looks back and sees The Thing land hard on the ground and then Johnny fall on top of him. Dr. Doom shakes his head mockingly and jumps into his train. Ben yells for Johnny to get off of him. They wait and moments later Reed and Sue get down there too. But Doom is seemingly already gone. Reed turns to Johnny and says "Give us some momentum." Reed and Sue begin piloting the other as Johnny gets behind the second train and flames on.

-The added strength and push of a flying Human Torch is enough. They catch up at a mad speed and begin ramming the other train, with Sue's forcefield. Reed and Ben nod, they know what they must do. They climb up the exit hatch on the roof of their car, and Sue lets the bubble or field rather up long enough for the two to make the jump. Doom hears them above him. He then hears on the other side a triumphant Ben Grimm go "Knock. Knock." And he (Dr. Doom) then sees The Thing's hand smash through the roof of his car. It is pulled off then and Reed spin stretches in as Ben jumps in. Doom throws some major gadget of some sort that is just an annoyance for Reed and Ben to destroy.

-At this moment Doom runs over to his "bomb" and pulls the pulling switch. "NOOOO!" Screams Reed as he jumps forward but a gust of powerful air and blast from an explosion force Reed to fly back with The Thing.

-The blast is so great it causes both train cars to derail. They collapse under heavy pressure and spin out of control. Reed and Thing are trapped under wreckage, but Thing pushes it off. They jump down and see Sue standing their, holding her arm...it is broken. They turn and hear a scream as Johnny in "flame on" explodes out of the wreckage screaming and hovering above. Johnny looks beyond them. They see a limping Doom scramble up the stairs of the local subway stop.

-They call chase him up. Doom finds himself in the middle of a street when a huge 8 foot ring of fire flames around him in a 15 foot range. Arg! There is Torch flying above the ring in the direction he is facing. Each direction Doom turns through the flames he sees another member of the Fantastic Four. He is trapped. The last member he sees is Mr. Fantastic. The Thing behind him says "C'mon doc...come out and play." Doom's eyes feel with hatred for Reed. He pulls out a zapper and fires and Reed expands easily dodging it. But in the same moment The Human Torch snaps his fingers and the ring of fire encloses and engulfs Doom. At the exact moment Reed yells "Johnny NOOOO!"

-We cut to the police there. Johnny is in handcuffs. Reed lectures him almost like a father figure about what he did was wrong, but they will be there for him, and no one will arrest him long term for the murder of Dr. Doom. Von Doom is dead. Yet then the detectives come and say "uncuff Storm."

-"What why?!" exclaims a bewildered Reed. "'Cause unless we hold charges for those who kill and murder robots, there won't be no point of him having 'em on 'ya know?" the detective bluntly replies. Reed runs to the dead body and now that the fire is cooled off he is nothing more than a charred metallic robot! The bomb was no dud, but a fake with a robot Doom inside all along! He played the world for fools on his videos!

-Cut to them being given gold chains and emblems by the mayor of New York City and thanked for their service. As we zoom away from Central City Hall we cut to a TV watching this in a dark storming gloomy and dreary castle throne chamber. A figure in a robe comes out washing his hair. The same man who had spoken so adimentally about killing Doom at the UN. The man who ordered the death of Victor Von Doom's parents. It is the dictator of Lavertia.

-The door creaks behind him and a beam of light shines through his dark shadowy throne room. He turns around and sees the sillouhette of none other than Dr. Doom. In this homage to the first Batman our dictator frantakly tries to welcome Mr. Doom. He walks to get a drink at his desk and reaches for a gun. Doom walks closer by the huge plasma TV saying "The news today...depressing....sickening." He then shoots two bullet holes into the TV.

-In fear the dictator turns around and says cut a deal or your military will kill you too! Doom says call them. He does on the intercom for help, they don't respond, they sound indifferent even.

-"Well funny thing is, you were so incompetent at the UN and I embrassed you and Lavertia...they think I can do a better job funny world ain't it?" Doom walks closer into the light holding out his gun. "Well since I've accomplished taking over the motherland of Lavertia, I guess I figure it is only appropriate that I do you in the old fashioned way...."You know the way you did my parents?" The Dictator scrambles towards Doom begging for mercy. Doom scoffs when the dictator said he did what he did for the interest of Lavertia. "Thank you for that explanaton" says Doom after shooting the man in the shoulder then in one leg and then the other with 5 second pauses. Then he stands up and we see the bullet fire at the camera and the screen light up.

-We cut to some cheesy ending of them standing in front of the Baxter building the 4 is revealed and Reed and Sue kiss after Reed shakes hands with a happy Ben with an arm around Alicia. You know, Hollywood ending. Then Johnny flies by.

The End.
 
Your dialogue for Dr. Doom is just a casual translation for our benefit, right?
 
Herr Logan said:
I would much rather see a live-action Twisted Toyfare Theater Fantastic Four story (Dr. Doom as an obsessive incompetent, Reed Richards as an arrogant bastard, Sue as the town bicycle, the Thing as a raunchy jerk, H.E.R.B.I.E. as a sadistic sex offender, Franklin as a horrid brat) used as the official adaptation of the comic book than see whatever trashy revamp they're planning for this movie as far as CEO Doom goes. At least then it would be funny and intelligent, if not scatological and inappropriate for young-un's.

Yeah...Doom, at least, even though he was incompetent, wasn't some eurotrash businessman.
"Doom is...pleased. The coffers are full, and the junk is out of the rec room."
 
TTT is the best thing Wizard magazine ever produced, and ToyFare is the only thing that still really good coming from Wizard now. I love that stuff.
 
Hehehe...
I love how they write him:
"For the last time, you minimum wage lackey, Doom rides alone!"
"But...Doom OWNS the bank of Doom! The account CAN'T be empty!"
"...Cities shall crumble for this."
"Gravity...is...a cruel...mistress..."
"YOU'RE ON THE LIST, ARACHNID!!"
"Oh, no! Doom is not falling for THAT again! Doom will take what he can get!"
"Hmm....no...I don't see any pompous World War 2 "living legends" on the schedule..."
"Accursed safety bar! Doom sits trapped while total victory was in his grasp! CRAP!"
 
Doom's stuff is almost always funny. "Twisted Toyfare Theater" is absolutely brilliant.
 
Yeah...I can't wait to see what they do when the FF movie comes out...
"This is...Doom? DOOM IS NO INFERNAL BUSINESSMAN!!"
 
"Sit down, Doom, my ultra-sexy Invisible wife can't see the movie."
-"CRETIN!! Doom sits for no man--!"
"You're just jealous because I'm getting it on with a woman I can't even see.
-"Then how do you know she's there, buffoon?"
"You...you're right! I've been played the whole time!"
-"Imbecile."
 
Sardaukar said:
Yes, folks, the great Khan said words like those in that subliminal Trek sequel. Khan was a man of great power and intelligence, yet he was wounded and wanted revenge...what a great character he was; I dare say he was the best villain Star Trek ever knew.

Doom could be like that. The backstory of the Master's beloved Latveria could effectively be incorporated into this film, even if the only time we actually see that fair country is at the very end of the movie!

1. In only a few (but gripping) moments throughout the film, Doom is disturbed and vulnerable (and we all know that Doom hates being vulnerable-it only adds to his rage and determination). He is continually plagued by nightmares and visions of a moment from when he was a child, a moment when his entire family was executed before his eyes. He feels ashamed that he, the rightful heir of Latveria, fled in fear while a usurper stole the throne.

Doom is also angry. You see, the usurper (let's respect canon and call him Vladimir) was actually backed and given weapons by the United States and other Western nations. But now Vladimir rules Latveria under an iron fist worse than that of the Von Doom's, but of course Vladimir is still an ally of the West as they continually overlook his crimes against humanity for political/economical reasons (just like China's control of Tibet).

This enrages Doom...and gives him enough of an excuse to really hate the world. That hate serves as proper motivation for him to avenge himself and his dead loved ones upon all the world.

I'd like to see a scene where Sue tries to understand why Victor is so angry and he explains to her his family's tragedy. Hell, if they really want Sue to connect intimately with Victor and make us understand the guy, that's a fine moment to do it in! Then, to back that up, maybe Doom's claim to the Latverian throne could be quickly alluded to by a fast news clip or something.

2. Skip to the climax of the film:

The FF defeat Doom and his charred corpse is laying before them. But, guess what, when the authorities arrive to examine the body, they discover that it's a robot (or a dummy, whatever suits your taste)! Doom has escaped; he is still out there somewhere...

3. Skip to the very end of the film:

6 months later...

Sitting on this throne, King Vladimir is cowering in mortal terror. An invincible enemy has broken through his palace's defenses. A doorway blasts open. The king watches in horror as a dark, cloaked figure approaches him.

You know the rest...

No what kind of setup is that for a sequel?
Aside from the fact that I still dislike the idea of Doom and Sue having a bond together (*why can't Ben be the original rival of Sue's affections??), you did mention some other very possitive ideas that could possibly help to save the proud name os "Doom" along with this awful movie. However, don't run out and try to copyright your ideas too soon. I very much doubt that the people behind this movie lack the intelligence nor integrity that you yourself display to ever try to incorporate your creative ideas. However, thanks for at least trying to keep a dream alive.:doom:
 
i don't mind the bussiness man angle, just make sure fox makes him live up to his name,
IT'S DOCTOR DOOM NOT DOCTOR DOOLITTLE.
 
Yeah, I just write diologue, I think as Dr. Doom he should seem very intimidating in prescence, appeare3nce, tone, and actions. But I do think (though not B&R mind you) he should sound a little bit hoaky so it isn't too dark, and he is a 60's villain, I don't want Dr. Evil, but he should feel very Bond villain-ish as in OTT and 60's unrealistic meglomaniac, even if he is a "less talky" one. That would just work for Dr. Doom well. Not Victor Von Doom, but after he dawns the armor.

What'd you think of the overall story.

?
 
thesaintofkille said:
Give Victor an armor instead of organic skin (for us to have a great Doom rendition), and your idea, Sardaukar, could be easily incorporated in the Frost's script. Easily.

Doesn't Fox force these writers to read comic books before writing their script ? Why didn't Frost read Doom comics ? And if he did, why did he respect the FF and NOT Doom ?? Was it for the sake of messing with us ??? For insulting 40 years of comic book history ??

Fox and Arad most definitely have a vendetta against us Doom fans, no doubt about it. :mad:
Well, I know I've gotten the message. They're saying this movie isn't for me, and I have to agree, so I'll be seeing War of the Worlds, instead.
 
DACrowe said:
Yeah, I just write diologue, I think as Dr. Doom he should seem very intimidating in prescence, appeare3nce, tone, and actions. But I do think (though not B&R mind you) he should sound a little bit hoaky so it isn't too dark, and he is a 60's villain, I don't want Dr. Evil, but he should feel very Bond villain-ish as in OTT and 60's unrealistic meglomaniac, even if he is a "less talky" one. That would just work for Dr. Doom well. Not Victor Von Doom, but after he dawns the armor.

What'd you think of the overall story.

?

Doom trying to get Sue to marry him? :down:
Doom killing Latveria's king to take over the throne? :up: (as long as they don't go with that dialogue)
Richard and Sue gettin' married at the end? :down:

Other than that...meh.
 
What's the objection to Reed and Sue getting married at the end? Is it that you don't want to see it end with a wedding, or do you have a problem with Sue and Reed getting together or getting married in general?

I certainly hope it's the former, because there isn't a valid argument in existence against Sue and Reed getting together in a permanent way. It was inevitable from day one in the comics, and that's pretty much the most solid part of continuity, right up next to there having to be four people who get fantastic powers.
 
Herr Logan said:
I would much rather see a live-action Twisted Toyfare Theater Fantastic Four story (Dr. Doom as an obsessive incompetent, Reed Richards as an arrogant bastard, Sue as the town bicycle, the Thing as a raunchy jerk, H.E.R.B.I.E. as a sadistic sex offender, Franklin as a horrid brat) used as the official adaptation of the comic book than see whatever trashy revamp they're planning for this movie as far as CEO Doom goes. At least then it would be funny and intelligent, if not scatological and inappropriate for young-un's.
Wow. So....
Um...

Whoa.

Maybe you should just make your own movie, because, unfortunatly for you, Hollywood has to appeal to broad audiences in order to make money, and they cannot be as die hard on the comics as yourself. A CEO Doom isn't perfect, but it's not that bad.
 
after the way they've altered the char.
they may as well take it a few steps further.
have him prance around in a pink TuTu and speak with a really bad lisp.
 
Trik said:
after the way they've altered the char.
they may as well take it a few steps further.
have him prance around in a pink TuTu and speak with a really bad lisp.
So it's all or nothing, eh?

MY DOOM HAS BEEN TAMPERED WITH! OMGWTF?! THIS MOVIE WILL BLOW.
 
DC Comics BEST Hero meets Marvel Comics BEST Villian:
vondoomsuperman.jpg
 
Captain Walrus said:
So it's all or nothing, eh?

well it's not doctor doom anymore.
its a pretender that the real doom would crush like an insect beneath a iron boot.
 
great and hilarious pic rebel ace. pure genius unlike mark frost.
 
Captain Walrus said:
Wow. So....
Um...

Whoa.

Maybe you should just make your own movie, because, unfortunatly for you, Hollywood has to appeal to broad audiences in order to make money, and they cannot be as die hard on the comics as yourself. A CEO Doom isn't perfect, but it's not that bad.

Why would you suggest such a thing? Do you automatically decide that you should take on a project your yourself that would cost millions of dollars when you notice something isn't being done satisfactorily? Ah, you don't have that problem, right? Obviously you must be employed by the companies involved in this movie and therefore directly benefit from them doing things the way they are, right? Otherwise, you couldn't possibly have a valid reason for throwing the same hollow, false, cliche, disrespectful excuses at me. Only peurile sheep believe that crap, and I can at least respect that an employee at Marvel Films has a duty to sell it, but I can't respect anyone who doesn't directly gain from buying into such nonsense.

Thank you, child, for proving once again you're not in any possible way a threat to my arguments.
 

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