I Am Doom....discuss me [merged-2]

[Dark Phantom]

I'm sorry everyone, but I have to agree. I like this origin better. I agree, it could have been a lot more faithful to the comics, but I'm satisfied with what we have.

Let me just say this:
I didn't really pay attention to updates on the FF movie. I didn't know what they were doing with Doom's origin. So when I saw the first FF trailer, I couldn't tell the difference if they changed Doom's origin. Sure, I noticed Victor along on the space mission when I watched it again and payed more close attention. Still for that few clips that I saw in the trailer, I couldn't tell if Doom actually gained superpowers along with the FF.

 

[Kelly]

LOL....ooooh wow.....this is entertaining.......

 

[user123456789]

Yeah...having your skin transform into metal is a hell of a lot more real than putting on an advanced battle suit.

I get it.

WHAT?? So thats what the trailers meant when they tell Doom, "Your biophysical bla bla bla is changing... oh thats not good news... i think ill get a second opinion"?????? He's actually TURNING into metal? thats hella gay.

 

[Sardaukar]

Very entertaining!

It's amazing how the masterful writers and artists of the genre can spend decades building up possibly the greatest comic book villain ever...

...and with one single FOX executive-approved script, the character can be changed...


...for the better!

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

I don't think there will be a sequel.

With all of the marketing, advertising, merchandise, etc. it shows that Fox has complete faith that this movie will make money and they plan on making at least 3. And Julian is singed on for 2 movies. Why don't you think there will be a sequel?

 

[Sardaukar]

With all of the marketing, advertising, merchandise, etc. it shows that Fox has complete faith that this movie will make money and they plan on making at least 3. And Julian is singed on for 2 movies. Why don't you think there will be a sequel?

Because I just have a bad feeling about this movie's prospects for success. And believe me, it has little to do with the changing of a certain character.

Whatever...I could be wrong.

 

[Kelly]

Very entertaining!

It's amazing how the masterful writers and artists of the genre can spend decades building up possibly the greatest comic book villain ever...

...and with one single FOX executive-approved script, the character is changed...


...for the better!

Well maybe not changed for the better....but it does seem that there are some out there that are happy with those changes....and i guess thats ok....we all have our ideas....and i guess thats why the world is a pretty cool place.....but it has been an entertaining exchange....and Sar...thank you for showing me that some here can be extremely patient and not patronizing to those that maybe don't have the knowledge of Doom but are looking forward to the movie doom....thats very refreshing....

i know you aren't happy w/ Doom....and i wish you were....

 

[Sardaukar]

Well maybe not changed for the better....but it does seem that there are some out there that are happy with those changes....and i guess thats ok....we all have our ideas....and i guess thats why the world is a pretty cool place.....but it has been an entertaining exchange....and Sar...thank you for showing me that some here can be extremely patient and not patronizing to those that maybe don't have the knowledge of Doom but are looking forward to the movie doom....thats very refreshing....

i know you aren't happy w/ Doom....and i wish you were....

Thanks Albafan!

You are Albafan, aren't you? (it's been awhile)

I doubt I'm as nice as you seem to think I am, but it's great of you to say so.

And I hope this movie's good and you enjoy it!

 

[Kelly]

Thanks Albafan!

You are Albafan, aren't you? (it's been awhile)

I doubt I'm as nice as you seem to think I am, but it's great of you to say so.

And I hope this movie's good and you enjoy it!

Yes check under the avvy...ooops above the avvy...lol....and i have a feeling you are nicer than YOU think you are....LOL....i have a feeling i'll enjoy the movie ALOT....

 

[Sauron]

I have thought about this and I have come to this conclusion. Doom's movie origin is 10 times better than his comic book origin. I hear some crying and complaining that it isn't faithful but faithful does not always great. His comic book origin is not believable, ridiculous, and unrealistic. His movie origin is believable and much better in the sense that he has a closer connection to the Fantasatic Four and a BETTER reason for being Doctor Doom. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

First of all it's not suppose to be realistic, it is a COMIC BOOK! Meant to be outside the realm of reality. Thinking like yours is what ruins comic book movies. You should not be ashamed of where the character comes from. If you like the comic and are the person to make that into a movie you should respect it and be faithful.

I think the movie origin is fine but, The reason about his mask is much better in the comic, and it's a shame they won't have Doom put the mask on too quick after it's made just to totally screw up his face in his haste. I have always loved that part of Doom's story that he was so vane and just wanted to cover up a small scar and made it so much worse.

The reaction of the audience would be great.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

I have thought about this and I have come to this conclusion. Doom's movie origin is 10 times better than his comic book origin. I hear some crying and complaining that it isn't faithful but faithful does not always great. His comic book origin is not believable, ridiculous, and unrealistic. His movie origin is believable and much better in the sense that he has a closer connection to the Fantasatic Four and a BETTER reason for being Doctor Doom. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

I do. The original comics Doom was crap. CRAP. I hope the Doom ultimate origin is in this movie because lets face it, the 1960's Doom origin isn't just outdated, it sucks for 2000's. Tim Story will make a great Doom origin I believe and I think it'll be good.

Doom will be happy for the movie!

 

[ShadowBoxing]

I have thought about this and I have come to this conclusion. Doom's movie origin is 10 times better than his comic book origin. I hear some crying and complaining that it isn't faithful but faithful does not always great. His comic book origin is not believable, ridiculous, and unrealistic. His movie origin is believable and much better in the sense that he has a closer connection to the Fantasatic Four and a BETTER reason for being Doctor Doom. Does anyone else feel the same as me?

As Doom would say "Bah!"

In my list of top three origins is Wolverine (Origin and Weapon X), Batman (Year One), and number 1 Dr. Doom. The story is sooooo much more compelling in the comic. I think what did it for me was when he placed the hot metal mask on his face, worsening his scars, and running out into the snow to cool it off. The cinamatic quality of those panels by John Bryne were reason enough to place it as number 1 on my list.

The origin explores Doom's narciscistic tendencies, arogance, and shear hatred of Reed Richards. One of the reasons I looked forward to an FF film was to see this origin played out correctly, but again Marvel screwed it up

 

[Kelly]

Well i don't know how the movie Doom will turn out....i hope we have a great nemesis for the F4....but i have to disagree on the UFF Doom....sorry....but ummmmm ... no

 

[Spider-Fan]

I prefer his comic origin much more, but I haven't seen the movie. I am hoping he turns out well. Doom is my only concern for this movie right now. He is my favorite villain, and I hope there is enough of him in there.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

I prefer his comic origin much more, but I haven't seen the movie. I am hoping he turns out well. Doom is my only concern for this movie right now. He is my favorite villain, and I hope there is enough of him in there.

Your kiddin me right? His comics origin was CRAP! CRAAAAP! As JJJ said in Spiderman 1 "crap crap mega crap".

His origin must be made for todays world not the 1960s because maybe you lived in the 60s I don't know or care but times changed.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Your kiddin me right? His comics origin was CRAP! CRAAAAP! As JJJ said in Spiderman 1 "crap crap mega crap".

His origin must be made for todays world not the 1960s because maybe you lived in the 60s I don't know or care but times changed.

I really think most people have not read Dr. Doom entire origin.

someone get me the issue of Marvel saga that outline Doom's origin

 

[Spider-Fan]

What is outdated? Lab explosions happen. People get scarred. He was just too vain to let his scar show, and he inevitably made it worse. Also him making an armor that powerful shows how much of a genius he is.

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

First of all it's not suppose to be realistic, it is a COMIC BOOK! Meant to be outside the realm of reality. Thinking like yours is what ruins comic book movies. You should not be ashamed of where the character comes from. If you like the comic and are the person to make that into a movie you should respect it and be faithful.

I think the movie origin is fine but, The reason about his mask is much better in the comic, and it's a shame they won't have Doom put the mask on too quick after it's made just to totally screw up his face in his haste. I have always loved that part of Doom's story that he was so vane and just wanted to cover up a small scar and made it so much worse.

The reaction of the audience would be great.

Whether you like it or not comic book movies are being made into fantasy movies that are still somewhat believeable. It is basically like this. What if we took these characters from the comic and put them in the real world? They want people to believe that what they are seeing could actually happen and therefore they will become attached to what they are seeing and connect with it. And Doom's origin belongs in the comics...not in the movie...timewise and ridiculous-wise.

 

[Kelly]

Whether you like it or not comic book movies are being made into fantasy movies that are still somewhat believeable. It is basically like this. What if we took these characters from the comic and put them in the real world? And Doom's origin belongs in the comics...not in the movie...timewise and ridiculous-wise.

in your opinion of course...

 

[RedIsNotBlue]

in your opinion of course...

Read the edited version.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

Whether you like it or not comic book movies are being made into fantasy movies that are still somewhat believeable. It is basically like this. What if we took these characters from the comic and put them in the real world? They want people to believe that what they are seeing could actually happen and therefore they will become attached to what they are seeing and connect with it. And Doom's origin belongs in the comics...not in the movie...timewise and ridiculous-wise.

Exactly.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

What is outdated? Lab explosions happen. People get scarred. He was just too vain to let his scar show, and he inevitably made it worse. Also him making an armor that powerful shows how much of a genius he is.

Outdated? How about scars. Sure, in the 60's scars lasted until a persons death but in todays world there are surgerys pills medicines etc to fix those and make it look like you never had them. Yes, he is a genius but making the armor? No, its because he owns and operates Latvaeria. Anyone could build a stupid armor.

Please dude, get your facts straight.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Burn scars cannot be healed in many cases, and these are what Doom suffered. Could you build armor by the way? I bet not, so shut up. Your point about that was stupid. If anything, more people could run a country then a build a sophisticated armor like that. Get YOUR facts straight, little man.

 

[Dr.Crazy]

Burn scars cannot be healed in many cases, and these are what Doom suffered. Could you build armor by the way? I bet not, so shut up. Your point about that was stupid. If anything, more people could run a country then a build a sophisticated armor like that. Get YOUR facts straight, little man.

Burned scars cannot be healed? PUH-LEASE! Scars can be healed, people just have to have money to afford these medications to get them healed. Does every single human being have enough money? NO! I cant build armor? Neither can you. Thats the pot calling the kettle black. You tell me to shut up? How classy. You obviously know you cannot be proved right so you just tell me to shut up to draw the argument into a stalemate huh? YOU get your facts straight you little BOY!

 

[Muze]

The FF gets powers. Why does he have to get them? There would be no reason why he couldn't have avoided the cosmic rays somehow.

Why does he have to be in a relationship with Sue Storm? In Daredevil, Kingpin wasn't in love with Elektra. In Superman, Lex Luthor wasn't in love with Lois Lane. In Batman Begins, Crane wasn't in love with Rachael.

devil's advocate here but...

1. Doom's in a relationship with Sue to show just how shallow and competitive he really is. it sets up the enmity between he and Reed. that and it gives you a convenient reason for Sue being on the ship with all of them. it's Doom's space station and she's 'his girl.'

2. Joker courted Vicki Vale in the '89 version of Batman

3. Rachel wasn't really a love interest. she was Bruce's conscience and an old friend (supposedly a good deal older than him).

4. Crane wasn't in love with Rachel because he's intimidated by powerful women. she was a powerful woman he wanted to conquer; hence the flaming horse stunt at the end. Doom doesn't have that problem.

5. Luthor(brains) and Superman(brawn) aren't competitors the way Reed(brains) and Doom(brains) are. so, if Lois is attracted to Superman, it's a huge stretch to see her attracted to Lex. Reed and Doom are more similar; one's just more of a bstard.

6. Daredevil was a horrible movie that should have never been a love story.