Fant4stic "I am DOOM! What MODS Dare Stand Against Me!

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I'm sorry but anyone who has only read the widely derided UFF and not classic 616 FF doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to arguing merits of the source material.
 
I'm sorry but anyone who has only read the widely derided UFF and not classic 616 FF doesn't have a leg to stand on when it comes to arguing merits of the source material.

And up until now, the people who read UFF and liked it had a chance for this movie to be an adaptation of those books...but apparently it's actually a hodge podge of drug induced hallucinations.
 
Just because you guys aren't looking forward to this movie, doesn't mean it's going to bomb.

Defending the movie even after this awful news? Fox must have raised their pay from 25 to 50 cents per positive post. :lmao:

This, my friends, is textbook Foxholm.
 
And up until now, the people who read UFF and liked it had a chance for this movie to be an adaptation of those books...but apparently it's actually a hodge podge of drug induced hallucinations.
:funny:
 
So I guess saying that Squirrel Girl could defeat Doom isn't actually far-fetched now.
 
Defending the movie even after this awful news? Fox must have raised their pay from 25 to 50 cents per positive post. :lmao:

This, my friends, is textbook Foxholm.

This just underscores to me the lack of objectivity of those that will defend this film no matter what news is released about it. Ergo their arguments lose all credibility in my eyes.

If Reed Richards turns out to a cannibal and Sue Storm a transvestite - they will defend it. If Galactus turns out to be an obscenely obese mutant with an eating disorder who wears a black leather trench coat and a purple fedora - they will defend it. If Dr. Doom turns out to be an antisocial blogger with a chat room handle called "Doom" they will... oh wait. They already did.
 
So I guess saying that Squirrel Girl could defeat Doom isn't actually far-fetched now.

Well....she will win the initial battle but his extensive blog expose along with the hacked pics he posts will haunt her for years to come.
 
What the hell is happening? You'd think Marvel's success would have taught them that you can be faithful to the source material, and the audience will love it. What the hell is this nonsense about blogger Doom?

marvel has nothing to do with this.

Just because you guys aren't looking forward to this movie, doesn't mean it's going to bomb.

This movie being an ass sandwich, however, does mean it's going to bomb.

Or is at least very likely too. This one will get killed on sheer negative vibes and bad word of mouth alone.
 
It's like Squirrel girl is actually just some budding actress with a fetish for posing in squirrel clothing who took some selfies and 4Doom just posted them on the internet after hacking them from the Galactus cloud.
 
It's like Squirrel girl is actually just some budding actress with a fetish for posing in squirrel clothing who took some selfies and 4Doom just posted them on the internet after hacking them from the Galactus cloud.

that is sig worthy...
 
marvel has nothing to do with this.

He knows that. He's just questioning why Fox feels the need to move as far away as possible from the source material, when Marvel has shown that faithfully translated characters (for the most part) can sell like gangbusters.
 
Remember. This is the same studio that needed make a film to keep the rights to another property, so they made Goku a highschool student that get's bullied by jocks, Chichi the rich girl that everyone as school wants to "get with", and the search for dragon balls taking place in a city littered with crosswalks.

Would anything else announced for FF really surprise you people?
 
So my BS meter is going off...We know next to nothing about this film and then all of a sudden he spills the beans on his character...that's kind of iffy.
then
he describes this version of Doom and an anti-social programmer/blogger...wouldnt this be what Josh Trank describes the people who 'attack' him on social media.

seems to me they maybe trying to get fans riled up
 
So with these rumours before of Doom being a woman, would that have been as bad as Domaschev being an internet blogger with the chatroom handle "Doom"?

I would have easily taken 'Dame Doom' over 'internet troll' any day.

Well....she will win the initial battle but his extensive blog expose along with the hacked pics he posts will haunt her for years to come.

The furrening. :oldrazz:
 
So my BS meter is going off...We know next to nothing about this film and then all of a sudden he spills the beans on his character...that's kind of iffy.
then
he describes this version of Doom and an anti-social programmer/blogger...wouldnt this be what Josh Trank describes the people who 'attack' him on social media.

seems to me they maybe trying to get fans riled up


I could see that happening.

1. Make a turd of a movie
2. Make the cast and crew make it out to be a bigger turd in interviews
3. Final product of turd looks awesome in comparison to lies and exaggeration
4. ??????
5. Profit
 
So my BS meter is going off...We know next to nothing about this film and then all of a sudden he spills the beans on his character...that's kind of iffy.
then
he describes this version of Doom and an anti-social programmer/blogger...wouldnt this be what Josh Trank describes the people who 'attack' him on social media.

seems to me they maybe trying to get fans riled up

So it is the strategy of FOX, Trank and the cast to intentionally infuriate their potential customers in the hope that all will be forgiven when they reveal the "truth" a few months from now?
 
I can't wait for the Grantland article on this whole debacle-fan outrage, interviews with cast, etc.

This has been car crash fascinating. The reason this board gets any traffic is because we are all rubbernecking.
 
Remember. This is the same studio that needed make a film to keep the rights to another property, so they made Goku a highschool student that get's bullied by jocks, Chichi the rich girl that everyone as school wants to "get with", and the search for dragon balls taking place in a city littered with crosswalks.

Would anything else announced for FF really surprise you people?

Yeah I'm also getting some strong Dragonball Evolution vibes from everything we've heard about this movie. It seems like something that belongs on the CW.
 
So umm yrah one of if not the greatest villain in the marvel universe is now a possession off basement hacker
Who wants to best his site or hacking group is called latveria

I'm amazed people can still say this will be a good ff movie
 
He knows that. He's just questioning why Fox feels the need to move as far away as possible from the source material, when Marvel has shown that faithfully translated characters (for the most part) can sell like gangbusters.

yeah I parsed the sentence incorrectly.
 
So I guess saying that Squirrel Girl could defeat Doom isn't actually far-fetched now.

It was never far fetched. :cmad:



Anyway, yeah, the whole "hacker alias" thing is pretty weak. Obviously I haven't seen how it plays out, so they might do something cool with it, but my first reaction is that it feels like those really flimsy justifications for weird stuff you regularly see in adaptations that serve no real narrative or thematic purpose and only exist to explain something weird from the source material. Those types of things usually don't work, because they draw attention to themselves by only existing for this one non-story related purpose and become super distracting.

Also, it is kind of unnecessary because Doom is a family name in Dutch and German, and it would not be implausible for a Romani family living in a Germanic or Scandinavian country like Latveria to have that name. Simply going with that and having the actors pronounce it with the appropriate accent to make it sound natural would in all likelihood be a much better fix.

But even if they didn't want to go that route, they could find a way to "explain away" the silly name in a way that would actually serve a purpose in the film. Here's an example:

In "Madeline," the series of French children's books about the titular resident of a Parisian Catholic school, there is a character named "Lord Cucuface," the uptight chairman of the school's board of directors who's always ruining everyone's fun with his strict rules. He has a silly sounding name that a small child might come up with to mock an unpleasant authority figure, which fits his role in the story well. In 1998, TriStar pictures made a live action adaptation of the book series. The film had a slightly more grounded feel than the dream-like stream of consciousness vibe of the books, and so a character named "Lord Cucuface" would feel out of place. What they did to get around that is that they changed the character's name to Lord Covington, and had "Lord Cucuface" be a derisive nickname that Madeline calls him behind his back. This works, because it serves a purpose in the story. It established Madeline as a troublemaker who does not automatically respect authority, it established what the students of the school think of this intrusive bureaucrat who is always ruining their fun, and when Madeline's teacher accidentally called Covington "Cucuface" while talking to him near the end of the film, it shows that she has decided to side with her students over her boss.

Now, of course, the Madeline film is hardly Critereon collection material and they probably made other choices in adaptation that didn't work, but the point is that they worked around an aspect of the source material which they felt was too silly for the film they were trying to make in a way that actually served a narrative role.

Now, it is entirely possible that the makers of this film are in fact doing that with their take on Doom, but on first impressions it doesn't seem like that to me and I can't imagine what narrative or thematic role the internet handle will serve, and if they aren't changing the name in such a way they probably should, because things that don't serve a purpose in a story shouldn't be in that story.
 
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Best case scenario, this turd bombs as bad as Punisher: War Zone or Ghost Rider: SOV and the rights revert back immediately.

Worst case, it's not a bomb or a success, but Fox sits on the rights for another seven years until they make another one or just give it back to Marvel.

Or would the worst case be that the film is terrible, but turns out to be a massive box office success by tapping into the young adult market and becomes a cash cow for Fox, kickstarting a long-running franchise and inspiring other filmmakers to do similar "reinventions" of comic book properties?
 
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