The Dark Knight Rises IESB: Script is IN!

Up until now I thought it was an updated version of the American Revolution, where we broke away from the tyrannical British through the efforts of some heroic individuals who risked life and limb and suffered daring exploits.

Never thought about it as being just fantasy, a made up story.

Well though it alludes to many conflicts, it's still "a made up story" and it does carry with it many of the tropes of fantasy storytelling. Even Lucas himself talks about using Joseph Campbell's book on myth as an outline.

We have war, young unfulfilled farm-boy, characters who put farm-boy in direct contact with the conflict, wise old wizard/teacher, rescuing the princess from the dark wizard's lair, joining with the freedom fighters. I could think of at least 10 fantasy stories and fairy tales that follow that same route.
 
You know since Nolan will have his grip on both the BM, SM and JL (possibly) movie franchise now - he may be developing an interesting plan for BW/BM's character by the end of the BM3...especially if Nolan is considering somehow to tie in Bat and Sup together for a JL movie down the line.
I could really buy into the fact that BW/BM has been isolated and somewhat naive about the workings and possibility of the existence of other individuals fighting crime and bringing justice to mankind. The sheer thought of an individual having sometype of superhuman strength and abilities (Superman, Green Lantern, Green Arrow, Flash, etc.) beyond his own would certainly be mind boggling....and therefore begins to doubt his own purpose and abilities to contribute to fighting for justice.

This could bring to us see BM (in a JL) movie wanting to give up his role and develop this animosity towards the others in JL......like "what is my role here, who am I compared to these others, I am nothing compared to what is really out there., etc" This could play a pivotal role in a JL movie and see BM as a background character that, again, begins to see how he can fit in with the others.

I would like to see Nolan do some cameo crossovers too - like hinting or cameoing Superman/Clark Kent in Batman 3 or vice versa - Batman/Bruce Wayne cameoing in the new Superman reboot.......somehow begin tieing all these together...... i think this may be a trend like Marvel is doing with Iron Man and the Avengers....I think Nolan can pull it off too.
 
The Avengers will be big. I don't think a team-up film has every really, REALLY been tried. It'll be tough, but I can't see any way it could go wrong.
 
What about X Men? It may not technically be a team-up, but a JLA/Avengers movie would work in a similar way.
 
And the X-Men films were never given the capability to use their greatest potential. It was all about one mutant, Wolverine. We never got to see how great Cyclops could be. Or even Iceman, except for X3, but that was only for one minute.
 
X-Men 3 was the worst superhero movie ever made, with a close second being Spider-Man 3. Let's pray to God The Avengers movie and JL movie never take any "cues" from them
 
It was worth it for Colossus.



No, it wasn't . Not to turn this into an X3 discussion. but we saw nothing along the lines of the sensitive artist, the russian farmboy, or the gentle personality or friend to all his teammates that Peter Rasputin is/used to be in the comics. He was a complete mute in the movies. X-3 s****** in every respect. as stated we never saw anyone in there proper greatness. Cyclops should have been a major character right in the front lines. (i want Cockrum and Byrne x- men next time....with Marvel having the rights.)
 
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Personally these are some minor changes I'd like to see done to Batman and Gotham:

Batman:
-Tone down the raspy bear voice alot. Maybe just have him talk in a slightly deeper voice as Batman.
-If we're gonna keep the same costume style, at least make the helmet leaner. Right now it kinda looks like an egg.
-Improve the fight scenes somehow. Somethings not working right now.

Gotham:
-More gothic would be nice.
 
Personally these are some minor changes I'd like to see done to Batman and Gotham:

Batman:
-Tone down the raspy bear voice alot. Maybe just have him talk in a slightly deeper voice as Batman.
-If we're gonna keep the same costume style, at least make the helmet leaner. Right now it kinda looks like an egg.
-Improve the fight scenes somehow. Somethings not working right now.

Gotham:
-More gothic would be nice.

I agree with all of these, and I'd add alot more.
 
And better iconic scenes. Just found this on the internet and its a lot better than any iconic posing scene in TDK where Batman was standing like a log in his robotic suit.

 
Everyone wants better everything. What's more important is for these aspects to be good on their own right, rather than comparing them. Of course I'd want more iconic shots, but I thought there were plenty in TDK.

I would love to be in bed with Megan Fox, but I sure as hell wouldn't be wondering "god, I really wish Diora Baird was here instead".
 
Everyone wants better everything. What's more important is for these aspects to be good on their own right, rather than comparing them. Of course I'd want more iconic shots, but I thought there were plenty in TDK.
Not more, better.

I would love to be in bed with Megan Fox, but I sure as hell wouldn't be wondering "god, I really wish Diora Baird was here instead".
I didnt know who she was so i googled and my jaw dropped to the floor.:wow:
 
Not more, better.
Eh, what's better is subjective. I think it's more important that the people can all universally agree that the movie had great shots, period.

I didnt know who she was so i googled and my jaw dropped to the floor.:wow:
Funnily enough, I had never done that, and with my SafeSearch off...my jaw had also dropped to the floor. :funny:
 
I guarantee you most people (including me) will agree that Joker made TDK. Joker raised the bar very high.

The 3rd film should at least come close to TDK, but Joker's gone now for the most part, and I don't think the villain (whoever they pick) will be as good as Joker. Batman will have to carry the film even more, and I'm afraid that Batman from TDK has too many shortcomings to pull it off.

They really need to make the Batman character better for the next one.
 
I guarantee you most people (including me) will agree that Joker made TDK. Joker raised the bar very high.

The 3rd film should at least come close to TDK, but Joker's gone now for the most part, and I don't think the villain (whoever they pick) will be as good as Joker. Batman will have to carry the film even more, and I'm afraid that Batman from TDK has too many shortcomings to pull it off.

They really need to make the Batman character better for the next one.

Not if they don't engage in recreation; and given Nolan's record so far, I'd say that whoever the next villain is, he/she will be recreated, updated, and appropriately molded for the Nolan universe (as was Ra's and Joker). . . while still remaining faithful to the general spirit of said character.

I'm glancing towards The Riddler with a personality resemblant of Hannibal Lecter. Someone sophisticated, refined, while twisted to the core and cryptic all throughout.

Anyhow. Have faith in Nolan. Ledger did great, but it's still possible to win the audience over in another way. In a better way.
 
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The Avengers will be big. I don't think a team-up film has every really, REALLY been tried. It'll be tough, but I can't see any way it could go wrong.
How can you not see the huge potential for it to be screwed up?

LOL ...

Major singular heroes being collected together in one movie ...

The movie could be horrificly bad. And I've always naturally hated the idea of huge superhero team ups.
 
The majority at whatever point in time assumed they were at the pinnacle of all possible technology.

Yes, even when the light-bulb was created.

Sit and ponder that for a while.
 
The majority at whatever point in time assumed they were at the pinnacle of all possible technology.

Yes, even when the light-bulb was created.

Sit and ponder that for a while.
We're not talking about technological advancements.

We're talking about how you said there is a better choice or better capability of a cinematic villain

In comparison to the most iconic villain in comic book lore.

And the ultimate antagonist thematically for Batman.
 
We're not talking about technological advancements.

It's called an analogy.

So what, you expect me to go out of my way to convince you that a villain can be better than Ledger's Joker? Such actions are far behind and below me. If you wish to keep an irrationally closed mind, then do so.

You will be left behind.
 
You should see his posts in the IM2 boards. I merely said that from the looks of the trailer it seems like IM2 will be even better than TDK and he got all ********. It's hilarious!

Ok maybe not better, but surely more enjoyable and with more replay value.
 
You should see his posts in the IM2 boards. I merely said that from the looks of the trailer it seems like IM2 will be even better than TDK and he got all ********. It's hilarious!

Ok maybe not better, but surely more enjoyable and with more replay value.
If you're going to talk about me, be a man and address me.

Butt hurt? No I just think you're ******ed cause you said a poorly cut 2 minute trailer of nothing all that worth while aka the Iron Man 2 trailer

Was better than the best comic book movie of all time.

:dry:
 

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