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[Hunter Rider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38ZpKxqBZJY&feature=related

This was the promo that made me think Jeff Jarrett could be a main event guy.

A submission match would be fun. I haven't seen that in awhile.

Yeah I'd prefer a technical match with an exchange of holds and counter holds than a brawl type match which is what most I Quit matches are now.

Creatively rewarding because Punk and Jericho are the ones writing it. It's been too good to be brainstormed by WWE Creative.

Very true! It's great that the three main feuds are all getting ran by the guys actually in them.

 

[Metallo]

Fair enough, Metallo. We'll have to agree to disagree.

The highest rated WWF tv segment Rock was involved with scored an 8.4 for Raw. As near as I can tell that was about 11 million people in 1999.

The highest rated WWF tv episode Hogan was involved with scored an 15.2 with 33 MILLION viewers for SNME.

Hogans SECOND highest rating was an 11.6.

Even if you factor in cable vs network tv thats a HUGE gap. More people also had cable by 1999 vs the late 80s. The fact that Rocks Raw was on a Monday when most stay home anyway vs Hogans SNME when people CHOSE to stay home instead of go out is even more impressive.

WrestleMania 17 drew 67,925

WrestleMania 3 drew 93,173

Some people need a SERIOUS reality check when they say Rock is the biggest star WWE ever produced.

 

[Project862006]

i am of the opinion that rock is'nt really bringing tons of people back

the raw ratings rock has been on have been the same as they were without him

Survivor Series did'nt do phenomenal buy rates with rock's first in ring match return in 7 years - and miz took the heat for it

this is'nt 99 anymore rock is'nt a huge draw since he is'nt in his prime anymore or the boom period

 

[Project862006]

uh oh kurt is off his meds again
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/n...Austin,-One-More-WrestleMania-Match,-More.htm

 

[Incrediblejeff]

i am of the opinion that rock is'nt really bringing tons of people back

the raw ratings rock has been on have been the same as they were without him

Survivor Series did'nt do phenomenal buy rates with rock's first in ring match return in 7 years - and miz took the heat for it

this is'nt 99 anymore rock is'nt a huge draw since he is'nt in his prime anymore or the boom period

I don't think anyone could come back and be a huge draw in the WWE.Austin,Hogan,Rock and so on.Wrestling just isn't popular anymore.The WWE really needs to do a better job on building new stars in my opinion or they really need to do something innovative.I really don't think there is ever going to be another boom period,but I would love to be proven wrong,and I also thing people are underrating The Rock,but that's just me.

 

[bullets]

Part 2 of the interview available here: http://blogs.thescore.com/wwe/2012/03/20/interview-with-bret-hitman-hart-part-2/

Good interview. I'm not sure how it was in Bret's day but it seems like now people get cut from the roster much easier. I hope Tyson and Natalya can endure.

i am of the opinion that rock isn't really bringing tons of people back

Maybe casual fans are coming back but definitely not the attitude era boom. It's not his fault though. Some of the people that latched onto wrestling during his heyday didn't really care for the product and basically moved on.

I don't think this match needs to take up two Wrestlemania main events in a row. Let someone else have it next year. One time is fine but any more than that means what the boys in the back are saying is even more true.

If Rock and Cena MUST have a rematch let it be at Summerslam or Survivor Series. Even Rock and Hogan had their rematch at Now Way Out.

Their match at WM 28 needs to end as cleanly as possible. Its not fair to make people wait a whole year only to give a dusty finish then (if they have a rematch) make them wait ANOTHER year for a definitive outcome. Thats basically keeping people waiting for two year.

I think Rock/Cena 2 is inevitable but repeating this feud over the course of another year would be terrible. Talk about a match losing steam , people would just want them to get it over with.

Cena deserves respect for wrestling in the same 24 hours he was in a car accident

Cena would work himself into the ground. I respect his tenacity but it leaves me a little worried this guy could have serious problems down the line.

 

[bullets]

But really forget that, who should win between CM Punk and Chris Jericho? Punk getting a Wrestlemania win would be great, and really outside of his MITB wins, he's never had a win in a singles' match. It would help solidify him even more. On the other hand, if he wins, it might end his feud with Jericho. And I'm guessing Jericho's hanging around for a little while after Mania.

Oddly I wouldn't mind Punk losing because he can chase after Jericho and get it back which would be equally as entertaining. Punk's had a decent run by today's standards. However Punk is the future of the company and should have his moment. I think it makes more sense to keep the title on Punk. The only issue is Jericho hasn't had a good win since his return and doesn't look as strong heading into the match.

 

[Anno_Domini]

i am of the opinion that rock is'nt really bringing tons of people back

the raw ratings rock has been on have been the same as they were without him

Survivor Series did'nt do phenomenal buy rates with rock's first in ring match return in 7 years - and miz took the heat for it

this is'nt 99 anymore rock is'nt a huge draw since he is'nt in his prime anymore or the boom period

Rock definitely brought me back into watching WWE once again. And it was amazing timing as well because I was watching it when CM Punk started his AMAZING promos during his feud with Cena and then finally becoming WWE champion. I only hope Rock sticks around for some after WM and Punk stays on his big push as well, otherwise...I don't think I'd stick around.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

uh oh kurt is off his meds again
http://www.411mania.com/wrestling/n...Austin,-One-More-WrestleMania-Match,-More.htm

lol maybe he did get hacked for real this time?............Maybe?

 

[NDX]

Or maybe he's tweeting during Happy Hour again.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Spoiler

His Twitter was hacked again.

 

[Project862006]

Rock definitely brought me back into watching WWE once again. And it was amazing timing as well because I was watching it when CM Punk started his AMAZING promos during his feud with Cena and then finally becoming WWE champion. I only hope Rock sticks around for some after WM and Punk stays on his big push as well, otherwise...I don't think I'd stick around.

cm punk's promo brought me back actually

i was no watching wwe for acouple years and i was switching channels that infamous night and i turned it on exactly the time punk did his promo

 

[bullets]

I remember right before Punk's promo I debated taking a break because everything had gotten stale.

 

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZHAFYQzZg&feature=related

Another side of Taker.

I remember right before Punk's promo I debated taking a break because everything had gotten stale.

Yeah, after HBK had retired and then the mess that was WM27 I was on the brink of giving up, then Punk cut that shoot promo and I was hooked in again.

 

[spidey-dude]

as for the Rock not bringing back old viewers, well I cant speak for the US, but over here noone who doesnt already follow wrestling seems to even know he came back (from the people I know anyway) I dunno what the publcity is like in the US mind

 

[Slushy]

There's a part of me that wants Cena Vs. Rock to be a one time deal otherwise they might as well change the WM tagline to "Once In A Lifetime, My Ass!"

This was the promo that made me think Jeff Jarrett could be a main event guy.

Agreed. The potential was there, but JJ never got a fair chance in the WWF even after he changed his character for the better by cutting off his hair and adopting a more serious attitude so I don't blame him one bit for having to go elsewhere to become a bigger star since he was another victim of politics.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The bolded part is definitely how I feel. I keep hearing this, "The Rock should win to not disappoint his fans, it would be disrespectful to them." To that I say, so what? They're only watching for him, and when he leaves, they'll leave too. They aren't going to watch the shows weekly, monthly and yearly. They won't be sticking around to help improve the bottom line, so why cater to them so much instead of the audience that matters?

I agree with the Jericho bit. Punk will come out looking great, but Jericho's been a utility heel for years now, so it's not much of a rub. This really is all about giving a great match with Punk getting a Wrestlemania moment.

I'm watching weekly, I spend my money on PPV's - do I not deserve to see what I want in seeing The Rock beat Cena?

There's this stigma that everyone cheering for The Rock is a group of about 7 people that tuned back in when Rock came back, and will tune back out when Rock leaves, but trust, I think that packed arenas, loud pops, and not significant ratings increase is evidence that a huge chunk of Rocky fans are the current audience that have been around before, and will stay around after, Rock's return. Do we not deserve to see a result that satisfies us?

 

[Daniel Thompson]

There's a part of me that wants Cena Vs. Rock to be a one time deal otherwise they might as well change the WM tagline to "Once In A Lifetime, My Ass!"



Agreed. The potential was there, but JJ never got a fair chance in the WWF even after he changed his character for the better by cutting off his hair and adopting a more serious attitude so I don't blame him one bit for having to go elsewhere to become a bigger star since he was another victim of politics.

I thought it was because Jarrert was just boring on the mic and as a character why he never became a big star in the WWF.

 

[Metallo]

I'm watching weekly, I spend my money on PPV's - do I not deserve to see what I want in seeing The Rock beat Cena?

There's this stigma that everyone cheering for The Rock is a group of about 7 people that tuned back in when Rock came back, and will tune back out when Rock leaves, but trust, I think that packed arenas, loud pops, and not significant ratings increase is evidence that a huge chunk of Rocky fans are the current audience that have been around before, and will stay around after, Rock's return. Do we not deserve to see a result that satisfies us?

And what about the Cena fans who watch weekly and buy PPV's. Do they not deserve to see the result THEY want to see?

You know..the ones who have been LOYAL viewers for years, buying merch and PPV's and watching Raw instead of guys who didn't stick around and watch and admitted it?

Why should you be "rewarded" with the outcome you want when your viewing habits were never even loyal vs those kids who supported WWE every f***ing week?

They have just as much of a right to get what they're asking for as you do...maybe even more since they didn't say f*** it and lose interest.

If you know how much the difference in arena attendance is since Rock returned who don't you give us some HARD numbers . I just did yesterday to back up what I said.

People there now get loud pops. And most nostalgia acts get loud pops. Hogan outpopped the f***in Rock but he didn't go over. By your logic Rock should have been FED to Hogan at WM18. Hogan was a bigger star in WWE history than Rock anyway.

 

[Kaleb]

The way they building up the Punk/Jericho match ,esp with Punk getting more and more pissed off each week.I cant help but think it will be the first match on the card for WM, I can see Jericho or Punk (preferably Punk) go into the Ring and beat up on two Jobbers and throw them out the ring then grabs a mic then either one of them demands the other to come to the ring to finally end this once and for all.

 

[Metallo]

Agreed. The potential was there, but JJ never got a fair chance in the WWF even after he changed his character for the better by cutting off his hair and adopting a more serious attitude so I don't blame him one bit for having to go elsewhere to become a bigger star since he was another victim of politics.

The guy had TWO runs in WCW. His first run where he worked with the Horsemen was a joke. When he came back circa 1999 he got his shot because Vince Russo wanted to shake things up.

Jarrett was a good worker and a decent talker but he never had nearly as much of that "it" factor. Even Booker T had more of it at the tail end of WCW.

Dusting off Honky Tonk Man's guitar swinging gimmick just wasn't gonna cut it. There were a lot of OTHER sons in the business that weren't top level talent for whatever reason but they were more talented than Jarrett. Dustin Rhodes, Barry Windham, Tully Blanchard, etc. When you look at it like that its easy to see he was missing something.

Jarrett's "Roadie" was 100 times better on the mic than he was. Road Dogg was ALSO a son of the business. Second generation.

Jarrett basically got to book himself as top star in TNA and the TNA fans even got sick of him. Their main event improved once he took himself out of the mix. When your best heat is X-Pac heat there's something wrong.

I thought it was because Jarrert was just boring on the mic and as a character why he never became a big star in the WWF.

Admittedly he got saddled with some pretty shi**y gimmicks during his first WWF and WCW runs and his dad co owning Memphis probably caused some resentment but Jarrett never had the star power.

Its like Mike Graham said...broke ten thousand guitars and never drew a dime. Granted Graham probably had some bias and issues with Jarrett and Russo because of the way his buddy Hogan got treated but that doesn't mean it wasn't true. Most of the other guys better than Jarrett had left by that point.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

The way they building up the Punk/Jericho match ,esp with Punk getting more and more pissed off each week.I cant help but think it will be the first match on the card for WM, I can see Jericho or Punk (preferably Punk) go into the Ring and beat up on two Jobbers and throw them out the ring then grabs a mic then either one of them demands the other to come to the ring to finally end this once and for all.

I wouldn't mind the match going first if it was cuz of something cool like this.

 

[Team Andino]

I remember right before Punk's promo I debated taking a break because everything had gotten stale.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfZHAFYQzZg&feature=related
Yeah, after HBK had retired and then the mess that was WM27 I was on the brink of giving up, then Punk cut that shoot promo and I was hooked in again.

I remember I was going to stop watching WWE and just stick to ROH, I've been a fan of wrestling my whole life and to just stop may not be possible. I was just going to ditch the crap and stick to seeing ROH every now and then. Like you guys the Punk promo got me hooked again like I was a kid again.

 

[JabarR]

World Heavyweight Champion Daniel Bryan is reportedly dating WWE Diva Brie Bella.
WWE recently kicked off a new feud between the Bella Twins and Bryan’s storyline girlfriend, AJ Lee.
Last week on SmackDown, AJ defeated Nikki Bella after Daniel Bryan stopped Brie from making the twin switch. WWE.com speculated that Bryan got involved in the match and prevented the Bellas from switching because he was still “emotionally scarred” by breaking up with the Bellas, whom he was romantically linked to on-screen last year.
The “love square” (a love triangle with 4 people?) continued at Tuesday’s SmackDown tapings, with AJ wrestling Brie Bella – and Daniel Bryan getting involved once again.


These pictures of Daniel Bryan and Brie Bella were posted online this week:

 

[Pink Ranger]

I just know D-Bry's going to be able to weasel his way out of this one, and his vocal and logical acrobatics are going to fuel our next thread title.