If The Wrestling Thread Keeps Changing Titles, Thread Manager Gets A Brogue Kick

[Wheels]

The Wrestlng Thread Needs to Man Up

 

[nite-owl]

 

[Metallo]

For close to a decade, professional wrestling fans loved Clash of the Champions, a series of supercards that aired on TBS, featuring the biggest stars of first NWA and the WCW. Over the course of 35 events from 1988 through 1997, fans were treated to championship contests, grudge matches, and spectacular moments. Many of these matches have never been released on home video until now. The Best of the Clash of the Champions, hosted by 3-time NWA World Heavyweight Champion and WWE Hall of Famer, The American Dream Dusty Rhodes, will highlight some of the greatest matches in the event s ten-year history and features fan favorites Ric Flair, Sting, The Road Warriors, Lex Luger, the Four Horsemen, the nWo, and so many more.

DISC 1

The Real Story

NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match
`Nature Boy' Ric Flair vs. Sting
Clash of the Champions - 27th March, 1988

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Lex Luger & Barry Windham
Clash of the Champions - 27th March, 1988

Why Wait a Whole Year?

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Sting & Dusty Rhodes
Clash of the Champions II - 8th June, 1988

Russian Chain Match
Ricky Morton vs. Ivan Koloff
Clash of the Champions III - 7th September, 1988

"I Quit" Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship
`Nature Boy' Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk
Clash of the Champions IX - 15th November, 1989

Mil Mascaras vs. Cactus Jack Manson
Clash of the Champions X - 6th February, 1990

NWA World Tag Team Championship Match
Midnight Express vs. Rock & Roll Express
Clash of the Champions XI - 13th June, 1990

DISC 2

To Be The Man, You Gotta Beat The Man

NWA United States Championship Match
`Nature Boy' Ric Flair vs. Lex Luger
Clash of the Champions XII - 5th September, 1990

The Young Pistols & Z-Man vs. The Fabulous Freebirds
Clash of the Champions XV - 12th June, 1991

15-Man Battle Royal
Clash of the Champions XVI - 5th September, 1991

WCW United States Championship Match
Sting vs. `Ravishing' Rick Rude
Clash of the Champions XVII - 19th November, 1991

Other Stars On The Rise

2 out of 3 Falls Match
`Nature Boy' Ric Flair & Arn Anderson vs. The Hollywood Blonds
Clash of the Champions XXIII - 17th June, 1993

Brian Pillman vs. "Stunning" Steve Austin
Clash of the Champions XXV - 10th November, 1993

WCW Television Title Match
Lord Steven Regal vs. Dustin Rhodes
Clash of the Champions XXVI - 27th January, 1994

Elimination Tag Team Match
Sting & `Nature Boy' Ric Flair vs. `Ravishing' Rick Rude & Vader
Clash of the Champions XXVI - 27th January, 1994

DISC 3

Here we are Again

Championship Unification Match
Sting vs. `Nature Boy' Ric Flair
Clash of the Champions XXVII - 23rd June, 1994

WCW United States Championship Match
"Stunning" Steve Austin vs. Ricky `The Dragon' Steamboat
Clash of the Champions XXVIII - 24th August, 1994

Hulk Hogan & `Macho Man' Randy Savage vs. `Nature Boy' Ric Flair & The Giant
Clash of the Champions XXXII - 23rd January, 1996

Medusa vs. Bull Nakano
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

Match for the BattleBowl Ring
Diamond Dallas Page vs. Eddie Guerrero
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

I'm gonna watch this

WCW World Tag Team Championship Triple Threat Match
Harlem Heat vs. The Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger
Clash of the Champions XXXIII - 15th August, 1996

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Ultimo Dragon vs. Dean Malenko
Clash of the Champions XXXIV - 21st January, 1997

WCW Cruiserweight Championship Match
Chris Jericho vs. Eddie Guerrero
Clash of the Champions XXXV - 21st August, 1997

Diamond Dallas Page & Lex Luger vs. Scott Hall & `Macho Man' Randy Savage
Clash of the Champions XXXV - 21st August, 1997

35th and Final Clash

BLU-RAY EXTRAS

`Nature Boy' Ric Flair and Barry Windham vs. Midnight Express
Clash of the Champions IV - 7th December, 1988

Sting and Ricky `The Dragon' Steamboat vs. `Ravishing' Rick Rude and Steve Austin
Clash of the Champions XVIII - 21st January, 1992

Thunder Cage Match
Dustin Rhodes & Sting vs. Big Van Vader, Paul Orndorff and Barry Windham
Clash of the Champions XXII - 13th January, 1993

 

[TheFuture]

^ That reminds me of a clip I recently watched with HBK, DDP, Booker T and Drew McIntyre. It was at one of those Raw roulette shows. DDP is promoting a WCW DVD (Best of Nitro?) and in walks Drew McIntyre calling Booker T and DDP has beens. Enter HBK into the frame by superkicking McIntyre, HBK then goes on to make a sarcastic comment about how he's sure that The Best of Nitro is a great watch.

It just amazes me really, even though the guy is trying to make money off of it, Vince still can't help but get a dig in at WCW.

 

[Van Petrol]

Source: PWInsider.com

Lilian Garcia messed up Zack Ryder's entrance last night at the Smackdown tapings in Newark, NJ. She announced Zack Ryder as "Long Island Iced Z" Jack Swagger.

This led to John Cena bringing out ring announcer Tony Chimel, who Garcia replaced, and Zack Ryder for the dark main event cage match. Cena said he was bringing someone who is a professional. Chimel began to introduce Ryder but they ribbed Chimel by cutting his mic out. Finally, Cena did the correct introduction for Ryder. The whole bit was reportedly done to embarrass Lilian Garcia.

I'm surprised and disappointed to see Cena get involved with this crap.

 

[Van Petrol]

Rumours going around that the main events for WrestleMania 29 are going to focus on/be based around The Rock, John Cena, The Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Rumours going around that the main events for WrestleMania 29 are going to focus on/be based around The Rock, John Cena, The Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin.

Ugh, I hope not.

 

[Van Petrol]

Ugh, I hope not.

I'm not too bothered about the others, but I'd love to see Austin wrestle again.

 

[Lobo]

Cena should beat them all clean in a gauntlet match to end the show. I hope for this just to see the internet explode lol

 

[Hunter Rider]

I'm not too bothered about the others, but I'd love to see Austin wrestle again.

Honestly to me the only guy from the 4 I think should be in the main plans is Cena because he's an active roster member, the WWE will never move forward if every Mania they rely on one off nostalgia act matches IMO.

 

[Van Petrol]

Honestly to me the only guy from the 4 I think should be in the main plans is Cena because he's an active roster member, the WWE will never move forward if every Mania they rely on one off nostalgia act matches IMO.

I understand that. Seeing Austin wrestle again is really just a personal want/luxury for me, is all. Probably similar to how I'd presume you'd feel about seeing Shawn wrestle again.

 

[SuperFerret]

I like it. It'll probably be Cena vs Rock again, Taker's last match (probably going 20-1), and Stone Cold is always fun.

 

[Hunter Rider]

I understand that. Seeing Austin wrestle again is really just a personal want/luxury for me, is all. Probably similar to how I'd presume you'd feel about seeing Shawn wrestle again.

Actually no to be honest, I think Shawn went out at the right time against the right guy, to come back now would cheapen that. Same as I think Austin's last match being against Rock and them pulling it off despite how busted up Austin was, was a fitting ending. Austin wrestling 10 years later to me just doesn't spell good things for a legacy that ended on a great match. Both men went out before they got to the point of living off their name, and both went out facing an iconic opponent.

 

[Hunter Rider]

During a recent interview conducted for the Hot Clicks Podcast on SportsIllustrated.com, WWE star John Cena hyped his match against The Rock at WrestleMania 28, and had the following to say concerning the real life problems he has with Dwayne Johnson:

I disagree with the way he does business...I congratulate him on all his success. He's had a Hall of Fame resume in WWE. His movies have grossed over $1 billion worldwide. But if was my career path, I would have done it differently...I disagree with some of the decisions he made.
All that time being gone, and the total process he took to try to reinvent himself. I can show you magazine covers that say 'The Rock is Dead,' or ringside interviews where he's said, 'I'll never go back to wrestling.' Just talking bad about the vehicle that got you to the dance, and then when the dust settles wanting to come back to the dance.
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You can listen to much more by clicking on the above link.

 

[Van Petrol]

Actually no to be honest, I think Shawn went out at the right time against the right guy, to come back now would cheapen that. Same as I think Austin's last match being against Rock and them pulling it off despite how busted up Austin was, was a fitting ending. Austin wrestling 10 years later to me just doesn't spell good things for a legacy that ended on a great match. Both men went out before they got to the point of living off their name, and both went out facing an iconic opponent.

That's a fair point, I actually agree with those comments. I think, for me I probably feel the need to want to see a bit more Austin is because as I came into it really during the 'Attitude' Era, I feel as though I missed out on a lot of the classic anti-hero Austin due to him going out for surgery in late 99 to late 2000, arguably when the WWE was at it's true peak, and then returning to play arguably the most hated guy around. I never really cared for that heel run at all, especially him leading the alliance. It just didn't sit right or make sense to me.

 

[Van Petrol]

During a recent interview conducted for the Hot Clicks Podcast on SportsIllustrated.com, WWE star John Cena hyped his match against The Rock at WrestleMania 28, and had the following to say concerning the real life problems he has with Dwayne Johnson:

I disagree with the way he does business...I congratulate him on all his success. He's had a Hall of Fame resume in WWE. His movies have grossed over $1 billion worldwide. But if was my career path, I would have done it differently...I disagree with some of the decisions he made.
All that time being gone, and the total process he took to try to reinvent himself. I can show you magazine covers that say 'The Rock is Dead,' or ringside interviews where he's said, 'I'll never go back to wrestling.' Just talking bad about the vehicle that got you to the dance, and then when the dust settles wanting to come back to the dance.
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You can listen to much more by clicking on the above link.

I think he needs to consider that a lot of those anti-wrestling comments from The Rock probably came out after Vince and Funkhouser seemingly burned him with the contract issue.

 

[Hunter Rider]

VIDEO: CM Punk Shoots Puck at Chicago Blackhawks Game

VIDEO: Jericho Appears on Fallon, Praises Punk & Talks WMania

 

[Nightmare]

Stone Cold vs punk

Then your left with a mix of Triple h, Rock, Taker, Cena.

 

[Hunter Rider]

That's a fair point, I actually agree with those comments. I think, for me I probably feel the need to want to see a bit more Austin is because as I came into it really during the 'Attitude' Era, I feel as though I missed out on a lot of the classic anti-hero Austin due to him going out for surgery in late 99 to late 2000, arguably when the WWE was at it's true peak, and then returning to play arguably the most hated guy around. I never really cared for that heel run at all, especially him leading the alliance. It just didn't sit right or make sense to me.

You didn't see 97 and 98 Austin? That was probably my favourite period he was in. The thing is his body had given up on him by 2003, both knees were shot and he had a bad neck making it hard for him to do moves, it's not like The Rock who was a natural athlete and pretty injury free, coming back after 7 years and still being able to deliver up to the standards he had set himself.

 

[Van Petrol]

You didn't see 97 and 98 Austin? That was probably my favourite period he was in. The thing is his body had given up on him by 2003, both knees were shot and he had a bad neck making it hard for him to do moves, it's not like The Rock who was a natural athlete and pretty injury free, coming back after 7 years and still being able to deliver up to the standards he had set himself.

Nope, unfortunately. I keep kicking myself for not starting to watch it earlier than I did. Even so, the main reason I only really got interested was due To Austin, after listening to my friends banging on about him for so long, and then eventually finally seeing what all the fuss was about for myself.

I agree with what you're saying, and ideally I agree with what you're saying regarding both he and Shawn going out at the right time and at the right moment and surroundings. It's just that nostalgic part of me that automatically jumps at the mere mention and/or chance of seeing Austin wrestle again, though most likely in hindisght, even I'd probably agree it's not the best move anymore.

You'd better tell Punk your concerns too.

 

[Hunter Rider]

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/251769-cena-wants-to-re-design-the-wwe-title-praises-young-talent

During a recent interview conducted for Mix106.1 in Philadelphia, John Cena discussed several topics, including who he'd most like to wrestle right now other than The Rock, who he feels are the brightest young talents in WWE right now, and more. When the topic of the WWE Spinner Belt came up, Cena noted that it's the most purchased belt in WWE history, but also said the following:

“Being the guy who truly invented it, it needs to change. It has been the way it’s been for years now. It’s had it’s run. It doesn’t even spin anymore. It’s heavy. It’s awkward. It really is. An average championship belt weighs about 12 pounds. The current WWE spinning championship weighs 27 pounds. So we need a rehash. I’m proactively trying to do that, but I’ve only got so much stroke, guys. I can’t do everything.”

Cena mentions that other than The Rock, he'd most like to face Stone Cold Steve Austin, and believes Austin has one match left in him, and although CM Punk wants that match, he'd like to "throw his name into the hat." You can check out the entire interview below:

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Nope, unfortunately. I keep kicking myself for not starting to watch it earlier than I did. Even so, the main reason I only really got interested was due To Austin, after listening to my friends banging on about him for so long, and then eventually finally seeing what all the fuss was about for myself.

I agree with what you're saying, and ideally I agree with what you're saying regarding both he and Shawn going out at the right time and at the right moment and surroundings. It's just that nostalgic part of me that automatically jumps at the mere mention and/or chance of seeing Austin wrestle again, though most likely in hindisght, even I'd probably agree it's not the best move anymore.

You'd better tell Punk your concerns too.

It's funny I didn't have a choice but to stop watching for a bit as I had no access, but I heard about Austin and came back just as he started getting the push against Bret, and at first I wasn't a fan as he wasn't what I expected and I didn't like the crowds turning on Bret lol.

I've been saying ever since Punk started pushing for it that I wasn't sure it was a good idea, especially since Austin said he thought Punk should be a heel for it.

 

[Van Petrol]

It's funny I didn't have a choice but to stop watching for a bit as I had no access, but I heard about Austin and came back just as he started getting the push against Bret, and at first I wasn't a fan as he wasn't what I expected and I didn't like the crowds turning on Bret lol.

I've been saying ever since Punk started pushing for it that I wasn't sure it was a good idea, especially since Austin said he thought Punk should be a heel for it.

Haha! That's how I felt when Austin turned heel.

Lol, it looks like it's not only Punk you have to convince, but also another host of names including Cena.

 

[Hunter Rider]

WWE star Hornswoggle recently posted the following on Twitter, but the Tweet has since been deleted:

"Glad @TheRock needs to sing karaoke to get his ***** in. @JohnCena will always be a true professional, doesn’t need scripted lines, bullet points, or #stupidsrxualinuendos like @TheRock"

Hornswoggle later apologized for the remark, by posting the following update:

 

[Van Petrol]

Btw, it's nice to know that so many seem to want to change the WWE title now.

 

[Metallo]

Rumours going around that the main events for WrestleMania 29 are going to focus on/be based around The Rock, John Cena, The Undertaker and Stone Cold Steve Austin.

The only thing I'd rather see Taker doing...is putting over Cena or Punk. The only thing I'd like to see Austin doing...is putting over Cena or Punk. Its sad that Cena and Punk are two of the few that have even been built to that level. Even then there are problems with the fact that their challengers in the main event would be two men whose best years are behind them. But otherwise...let them retire or stay retired.

I'd love to see HBK wrestle Punk but the time has passed. No need to unsettle a good ending. Let it stay pure.

Rock vs Cena II or Rock vs Austin IV are just huge wastes of time at this point. Taker almost at the finish line of his career. Hunter Rider is right. Anything these guys do should be to solidify the future the same way it was done for them. Do so many veterans need to be hogging spots at once? I can understand one nostalgia star next year but three?

WWE has quite literally run out of time on their deadline to make new stars. Its now or never.

Relying on nostalgia acts, the veterans, and the past TOO MUCH is what has put the business in the shape its in now. Its basically trying to rebuild itself from scraps of untempered untreated materials.

Wrestling keeps doing that and its dead.

I think he needs to consider that a lot of those anti-wrestling comments from The Rock probably came out after Vince and Funkhouser seemingly burned him with the contract issue.

It was McMahon that "burned" the Rock not the business or the fans.