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IMO WWE should really consider putting Taker in a 6 man tag match at WM.

Put him against the Shield the storyline could be cause the Shield has turned out the lights when they start to attack people.

You can have Shield vs. Orton Taker and Ryback

CM Punk vs. Rock vs. Cena

HHH vs. Brock Lesnar

as their 3 big Main Events.
 
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IMO WWE should really consider putting Taker in a 6 man tag match at WM.

Put him against the Shield the storyline could be cause the Shield has turned out the lights when they start to attack people.

You can have Shield vs. Orton Taker and Ryback

The 6-man tag idea isn't bad, but teaming Taker with two other powerful alpha wrestlers takes away any suspense over "will he, won't he lose."

I say team him with Bryan (a great wrestler, but his character is generally accepted as being physically weaker than Orton and Ryback). Leave Kane out of it, as it can be a "revenge my brother" kind of thing.

The third wrestler can be somebody like Kofi Kingston. Having two skilled but weaker partners would create more tension in the streak match.
 
Punk will hit the GTS on Cena and all of a Sudden the Lights will go out and a Gong will sound. The Lights come back on Punk looking around walks right into a Attitude Adjustment and wins 1 2 3. That would really suck though.

I agree with The Apocalypse in that that scenario would make literally no sense. Undertaker's gong hits just to screw up Punk's match when they('Taker and Punk) haven't had a match in years?

It would only make sense if Punk has a promo tonight talking once again about respect.
 
Well there is one thing they could do. Punk loses to Cena and at the End of the Night he comes out and says that there is only one other thing that matters at WM and That's ending the Streak.
 
Brock Lesnar is a killing machine, having him lose to a broken down 50 year old diminishes the win he could offer someone from the active roster. People don't put too much stock in the damage a loss does to a guy, it's about the right wins and losses just like the right beats in a movie or theater play as you describe it. A loss hurts Brock's character, a character that can be better used if he remains untouchable until a guy that could really use the win beats him.


In kayfabe, Undertaker is not a "broken down 50 year old", he's still the Phenom, and his Wrestlemania streak, in kayfabe, is about as prestigious as the WWE Championship.

Losing to Undertaker will not damage Brock in the least bit.
 
The thing is though, Taker getting weaker HAS been put into kayfabe over the past few years.

That was the catalyst for his last feud with Kane.

He couldn't stand on his own two feet in spite of winning at WrestleMania 27.

The reason Trips was resistant to accepting Taker's challenge last year was because he was almost looking down upon Taker and showing pity for him, thinking that he was going to end up killing him.
 
While the potential card for Mania leaves a lot to be desired, the one that really irritates me is Helmsley vs. Brosnar. It's just going to be a complate Helmsley-Stephanie-McMahon ego stroke and will feel like WMX8 all over again. Plus the fact that Helmsley always moves himself to the front of the queue when he wants a win or is owed a win back.
 
Yeah, if Taker vs Lesnar dosen't end in Taker getting his win back, then I'm not interested in Taker vs Lesnar. IMO, Taker did more than enough for Lesnar when he put Lesnar over in a HIAC match....and if I'm not mistaken, Lesnar is still the only guy who beat Taker clean in a HIAC.

favourite hiac :word:
 
Yeah, if Taker vs Lesnar dosen't end in Taker getting his win back, then I'm not interested in Taker vs Lesnar. IMO, Taker did more than enough for Lesnar when he put Lesnar over in a HIAC match....and if I'm not mistaken, Lesnar is still the only guy who beat Taker clean in a HIAC.

What's wrong leaving it as Taker never defeating Lesnar? That just adds to the monster aura even more.

There are several reasons why I don't want the match to happen:

1. Taker doesn't need the win. His loss to Lesnar happened 11 years ago and it was about putting Brock over. Plus he was full-time. Getting the win back means nothing, and leaving Brock as an unstoppable juggernaut who could one day get defeated by a rising full time star can do a lot in the long term, financial wise and for the future of the company. Imagine Seth Rollins breaking away from Shield, getting built up for a year or so, and then coming across Brock and being the one who beats them. That's enough to strap a rocket to Rollins' back and ride him to the bank. Seth Rollins...the man who put down the Beast.

Besides, how many clean jobs has Taker done for the people he's beaten over the years?

2. Brock doesn't need the win. On his own, Brock is a beast. He's part-timer not around to carry the company. Let the Streak get ended by another who the company can use as a star all year round.

3. I don't have confidence in the match's quality. Their matches happened 10 to 11 years ago, and Taker was younger, healthier, and could really go. Nowadays, his movement is limited, he's not in the best condition. And Brock's style is much different than it was then, much more physical.
 
- WWE re-posted the Tout footage of The Undertaker's entrance on Saturday night with the title, "Is this the Undertaker?"

They also questioned his appearance in the video description: "Did the Deadman make an appearance at a WWE live event in Waco, Texas this weekend?"

- Regarding Taker's return on Saturday night, one fan in attendance noted that he looked great, despite being out of action for a year and the numerous reports about his health. After the match, fans were chanting "this is awesome" and "you still got it" to The Deadman.


http://www.pwpix.net/pwpixnews/headlines/363805633.php
 
The thing is though, Taker getting weaker HAS been put into kayfabe over the past few years.

That was the catalyst for his last feud with Kane.

He couldn't stand on his own two feet in spite of winning at WrestleMania 27.

The reason Trips was resistant to accepting Taker's challenge last year was because he was almost looking down upon Taker and showing pity for him, thinking that he was going to end up killing him.

This is true, yes, but in kayfabe Undertaker is far from a "broken down 50 year old"

They've added the element of him being weakened to add suspense to the storyline. The Streak is held as such a prestigious accomplishment in kayfabe, and for there to be any suspense that it could actually end, they have added the element of him getting weaker. Yes, part of it is because in real life, Mark Callaway is a broken down 50 year old and can't go the way he used to be able to, so they have to find ways to accommodate that in the ring, as well as explain why he's gone 11 months out of the year, but when The Undertaker returns, how is he presented? As the Phenom? As someone who's unstoppable? Or someone who is a broken down 50 year old?

Once the lights go on (or out, however you want to look at it), the gong hits, and Undertaker comes through the dry ice flanked by druids, he's no longer Mark Callaway the 50 year old, he's The Undertaker, quite possibly the most dominate force the WWE has ever seen.

That's why I don't buy the criticisms of Miz looking weak because he "struggled" against aging Lawler and aging Hitman. In real life, Jerry Lawler and Bret Hart are aging, broken down old men that don't come anywhere close to being able to do what they could do in their primes. But once the music hits and they step into the ring, Lawler is The King, a Hall of Famer, and Hart is the Hitman, the Excellence of Execution who still is The Best There Is, The Best There Was, and the Best There Ever Will Be.

Ian McKellen might be an old 70-something year old man, but that doesn't mean that once the cameras go on, Gandalf and Magneto aren't bad asses to the max.

It's the same thing in wrestling. Yea, in their current states and ages, Hart, Lawler, and Callaway can't go like they used to (with the obvious exception of Hart being in the worst shape of the 3, and Undertaker probably being in the best), so their characters do get toned down to reflect that, but when it comes to kayfabe, these guys are still incredibly dangerous people to step into the ring with. I don't care if he's a 50-something year old strokee, in kayfabe, getting locked in Hart's Sharpshooter is one of the last things you want to happen to you. And in kayfabe, stepping into the ring at Wrestlemania with The Undertaker is a damn near death sentence.

Losing to Undertaker is not going to damage anyone really. I'm not really arguing for or against Undertaker v. Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania, cuz quite frankly, I don't care who Undertaker faces as long as 1.) he doesn't lose the streak and 2.) the feud is entertaining. I don't care if it's Lesnar, Punk, Triple H, Cena, or whoever. Granted, given the last 4-5 years of Wrestlemania, I'd prefer it not to be against someone like Shield, or some kind of tag match, because both bouts with Michaels and both bouts with Triple H are classic, and the stakes have to continue to go up, but as long as the guys involved can make it entertaining (and we all know Undertaker will) I don't care who he fights.
 
And in the last thread, before it got locked and this one opened, someone responded to me saying that CM Punk and The Rock were similar in character, and that's why I felt the 2 of them worked better. I don't remember who it was, and the thread was locked before I could respond.

But what I meant by that is, the two guys aren't really similar in their in ring style, but they're both similar in regards to their... archetype maybe is the word I'm looking for?

What I mean by that is, The Rock is ultimately 1b in regards to the Attitude Era, sitting next to Austin. They were both the "face" of the company at one point during the era, and a case could be made for either guy (though while Rock is my favorite, the edge I think has to go to Austin as the "face of the Attitude Era"). But The Rock was at the forefront of what made the Attitude Era great... the PG-13 - R rated content week in and week out.

CM Punk is about the closest thing to "attitude era" we have currently on the roster, in a guy who cuts edgy promos, and isn't afraid to push the boundaries. He's the anti-authority figure, even if not in the same vein as Austin. Whereas Austin is referred to more as the "blue collar" guy who got to take his frustrations out on his boss, CM Punk is more of the "anti-establishment hipster" who goes against authority and what's accepted in pop culture to stand out as different.

But CM Punk is way more "Attitude Era" than John "G-Rated Captain Hero Saves The Day From the Bad Guys of the WWE" Cena. I mean a feud between The Rock and John Cena comes off as like, Batman fighting against Jafar from Aladdin. It's just two completely different styles of characters going against each other.

At least with Punk, both guys are edgy, and willing to push boundaries, and admittedly The Rock is way more PG currently than in his hey-day, I just feel that watching The Rock and CM Punk feud is more of a natural "wrestling rivalry". The characters, the feud, the storyline is way more in line with what I wanna see from wrestling than anything Cena brought to the table against The Rock, outside of his one Thuganomics promo, and the first Attitude Adjustment he gave to The Rock prior to Wrestlemania 27.
 
I'm not the worlds biggest Glenn Beck fan (although I do consider myself a Libertarian) but I think this is getting dumb. Is Vince this desperate for attention?
 
Oooooooo...burned! :funny: Ricardo acctually does a better job making a connection with people. He gets the entertainment aspect. Wouldn't be the first time a valet, manservant, or manager got more over than the superstar he/she was paired with. Sable and Marc Mero anyone? Kimberly and Hogans buddy The Booty Man? :funny: Del Rio can work in the ring but I find myself usually not giving a sh** about him as a character. Very little personal magnetism. He mimes his way through the physical part of those charms (the smirk, the grins, the winks, etc.) but theres nothing else behind all that the way someone like The Rock has "it" when it comes to charisma.

What can I say, even Trips knows he sucks as a face. :D What do you mean the Booty Man wasn't over? Lmao has anyone ever had m,ore failed gimmicks? Agreed, Del Rio reminds me of Billy Gunn, he has the look and the athletic ability, but there is no it factor.

True. They've given a ton of big matches away for free on tv in recent years. Thats actually worse now that there are so few big money matches left. And the lack of stars is why sh** like Lesnar vs HHH II pisses me off. Why Ziggler being jobbed out pisses me off.

It's a mess, I know some say just sit back and watch, but that would be fine if I didn't keep seeing things like the IC and US champs jobbed out on free TV in matches with no meaning.

You're right. Thats partly why Nash and Michaels lost momentum when they were babyface champs in 1995 and 96 respectively. Vince was dumb enough to take away everything that made the cool and got them over when they were heels. Nobody wanted to see them smiling like idiots, high fiving fans, and kissing babies. They wanted to see these guys keep a little of that edge that made them so entertaining in the first place. Everyone learned that lesson by 97.

Like you said Razor still had some of his edge as a babyface.

The craziest thing about this whole scenario is on the back of the failrues of Nash and HBK in 85 and 96 Vince stumbled onto Austin and let it ride, then he allowed The Rock to keep his persona as a face.....as soon as the MNW's were over we get John Cena, a guy booked exactly like the two failed top faces instead of the two massively successful top faces. :doh:

Thats why I said its impossible to fix as a one on one match now. The curtain has been pulled back. Hogan/Warriors story and buildup were booked brilliantly. Both played their parts brilliantly in the build up and the match. The concept of babyface champ vs babyface champ at Wrestlemania was such a fresh and original idea for them at the time. Two titans colliding felt huge. Both were super over. Rock vs Cena I had a slipshod buildup and there was nothing unique behind the concept of the match. All those problems are magnified with Rock vs Cena II. The title means sh** in fixing it because Rock hasn't done enough to make the belt matter and we all know how it ends.

Even if Vince tried to pull a swerve and Rock retained at Mania it would be stupid and give us an equally bad outcome. Not only would Cena look like a chump (if he stayed face after the match anway) but I'd feel like the rug was pulled out from under me. "Fool me once shame on you..." and all that. But this time it would still be shame on Vince for getting us with a cash grab swerve and the same match as last year.

The only way to get anything out of this at this juncture is to have Cena go heel and screw Rock out of the belt, the fans are going to boo the outcome regardless but imagine the heat if a heel Cena stood over The Rock? I mean what is the alternative? Rock loses and shakes Cena's hand? :dry:
 
In kayfabe, Undertaker is not a "broken down 50 year old", he's still the Phenom, and his Wrestlemania streak, in kayfabe, is about as prestigious as the WWE Championship.

Losing to Undertaker will not damage Brock in the least bit.

It'll show Lesnar as even more beatable than he already has been with Cena. It was one of the major screw ups of Brocks return.

Brock has more credit as a guy who beats people than anyone else on the roster. That kind of value should have been protected but it wasn't and losing to Taker will just be a waste of Lesnars limited time when he could be used far more effectively somewhere else and WWE can get their moneys worth over the long term instead of in a once shot match we've already seen



This is true, yes, but in kayfabe Undertaker is far from a "broken down 50 year old"

They've added the element of him being weakened to add suspense to the storyline. The Streak is held as such a prestigious accomplishment in kayfabe, and for there to be any suspense that it could actually end, they have added the element of him getting weaker. Yes, part of it is because in real life, Mark Callaway is a broken down 50 year old and can't go the way he used to be able to, so they have to find ways to accommodate that in the ring, as well as explain why he's gone 11 months out of the year, but when The Undertaker returns, how is he presented? As the Phenom? As someone who's unstoppable? Or someone who is a broken down 50 year old?

Once the lights go on (or out, however you want to look at it), the gong hits, and Undertaker comes through the dry ice flanked by druids, he's no longer Mark Callaway the 50 year old, he's The Undertaker, quite possibly the most dominate force the WWE has ever seen.

That's why I don't buy the criticisms of Miz looking weak because he "struggled" against aging Lawler and aging Hitman. In real life, Jerry Lawler and Bret Hart are aging, broken down old men that don't come anywhere close to being able to do what they could do in their primes. But once the music hits and they step into the ring, Lawler is The King, a Hall of Famer, and Hart is the Hitman, the Excellence of Execution who still is The Best There Is, The Best There Was, and the Best There Ever Will Be.

Ian McKellen might be an old 70-something year old man, but that doesn't mean that once the cameras go on, Gandalf and Magneto aren't bad asses to the max.

It's the same thing in wrestling. Yea, in their current states and ages, Hart, Lawler, and Callaway can't go like they used to (with the obvious exception of Hart being in the worst shape of the 3, and Undertaker probably being in the best), so their characters do get toned down to reflect that, but when it comes to kayfabe, these guys are still incredibly dangerous people to step into the ring with. I don't care if he's a 50-something year old strokee, in kayfabe, getting locked in Hart's Sharpshooter is one of the last things you want to happen to you. And in kayfabe, stepping into the ring at Wrestlemania with The Undertaker is a damn near death sentence.

Losing to Undertaker is not going to damage anyone really. I'm not really arguing for or against Undertaker v. Brock Lesnar at Wrestlemania, cuz quite frankly, I don't care who Undertaker faces as long as 1.) he doesn't lose the streak and 2.) the feud is entertaining. I don't care if it's Lesnar, Punk, Triple H, Cena, or whoever. Granted, given the last 4-5 years of Wrestlemania, I'd prefer it not to be against someone like Shield, or some kind of tag match, because both bouts with Michaels and both bouts with Triple H are classic, and the stakes have to continue to go up, but as long as the guys involved can make it entertaining (and we all know Undertaker will) I don't care who he fights.

In kayfabe ALL the guys you mentiond have had their ages and physical limitations acknowledged on the air. They sure as hell didn't pretend liek Jerry Lawler didn't have a heart attack. Everybody saw that and they worked it into the show. Hart AND Lawlers ages have all been references and how they are past their prime. They never outright said Bret hart was a concussed stroke victim but anyone who can read between the lines saw it when he was called more or less "a broken down old man who is a physical shadow of his former self" on camera.

They even did it with Hogan. Jim Ross acknowledged Hogans age and even his knee and hip replacements on camera. This idea that WWE doesn't acknowledge the aging of older stars like they are the same as they were 20 years ago or unbeatable is hogwash.

Lawler was often called a guy past is prime. Particularly during the ECW relaunch and his feud with Cole.

Shawn Michaels real life back injury was often referenced in storylines and matches over the years. The same with Angles neck. And Austins neck.

Taker hasn't been as easy to pin down with things like that because of the supernatural elements of his character but in the last four years they've talked about how much the wars took out of him.

Even Triple H called him a guy past his prime who wasn't what he used to be and who should be "put down" (like a dog). You don't say that about someone unless you are trying to say they are past their prime or don't have it anymore.

They never said he had his hip replaced or that hes hurt and had surgeries but WWE has acknowledged how many miles Unterdater has on him on camera and how he's held onto the streak by the skin of his teeth for four years straight.

The streak is going to draw ANYWAY so its better to set up two matches that can draw money instead of one.
 
I'm not the worlds biggest Glenn Beck fan (although I do consider myself a Libertarian) but I think this is getting dumb. Is Vince this desperate for attention?


It's wrestling. Even bad publicity is good publicity.

Stop mocking me, Rocko's Modern Life advertisement! I'd buy you and that Beetlejuice set coming out if I had the money! Quit reminding me I'm broke!
 
Brock Lesnar has what NO ONE else in WWE has right now in the publics eyes: legitimacy as a real life tough guy and ass kicker. Hes a legit fighting machine who beat other tough guys into submission. That doesn't come along in WWE every day. Everyone else "kicks ass" in a fake way? Brock Lesnar kicked ass FOR REAL. And made good money at it. Not only did he make good money but he reached the highest peak in MMA. He was the UFC champion. Not only did he win for real but he became THE BEST among his peers during certain periods. Thats impressive. No one can say he's a phony badass fighter. He's the real deal.

He's the Ivan Drago of WWE right now. Whatever he hits he destroys. He IS a destroyer. Thats what he should be built as and billed as. And TRUE mega over destroyers have a fragile aura that should be preserved and protected. That aura's value should be maximized at just the right time during just the right opportunity for just the right guy.

If one isn't careful and that aura is used up too freely and too easily...its gone. And folks once its gone its gone. Goldberg never really got it back. Vader damn sure never got it back. Kanes never reached that same level either. Lesnar has a new found level of badassery even he didn't have before he left in 04 AND a new generration of fans who are seeing him break people for the first time live in WWE.

It makes more sense for Lesnar to go over guys like HHH and Taker. Guys who don't need the win. Beating them does build up Brock. Then the person who finally does beat Brock gets a huge boost. He gets the rub of claiming hes the man who finally beat Brock Lesnar. He's the man who did what legends like Undertaker and Triple H couldn't. Thats a huge feather in ones cap. Its a huge claim one can make. Its the kind of creative investment even an average person can understand from a storytelling perspective. But those bragging rights are even more potent, more powerful, if Lesnar's image isn't diminished first. Its far more impressive to beat a once unstoppable Lesnar than it is to beat a guy who's already hit a roadblock (and I dont mean The Rock).

Thats how you cultivate a monster image. A destroyer image. That mythology grows and grows until one person comes along to finally slay the beast.

Nobody kicked the Krakens scaly sea dwelling ass as hard before Perseus got there.

Great post, that is exactly why Brock shouldn't job to anyone that has no future, his gimmick is based in reality and shouldn't be pissed away.

So if they start to set up 'Taker/Punk tonight, what do you think will happen?

Punk will be scared for a few weeks, then man up at Mania, then job.

In kayfabe, Undertaker is not a "broken down 50 year old", he's still the Phenom, and his Wrestlemania streak, in kayfabe, is about as prestigious as the WWE Championship.

Losing to Undertaker will not damage Brock in the least bit.

It does damage him as Brock's whole aura is that he's the real life Terminator and Taker looks and moves like an old man no matter what WWE try to present, it's why your idea that Hitman and Lawler making Miz look a ***** doesn't fly, when the bell goes no matter what WWE say about them they look and move as exactly what they are, two middle aged men, one of whom has had a stroke, and all it does is make Miz look a fool as unlike Ian McKellan Bret and Lawler don't have Special effects to cover up for them stumbling around the ring looking every bit as middle aged as they are. No amount of kayfabe works when your eyes clearly show you two old men who can barely move.

While the potential card for Mania leaves a lot to be desired, the one that really irritates me is Helmsley vs. Brosnar. It's just going to be a complate Helmsley-Stephanie-McMahon ego stroke and will feel like WMX8 all over again. Plus the fact that Helmsley always moves himself to the front of the queue when he wants a win or is owed a win back.

He is such an ******* and it will never change, he moans about Hogan but is EXACTLY like him.
 
During an interview conducted for Eurosport Turkey, WWE star Daniel Bryan spoke on a number of topics including the infamous choking incident, working a comedy heel character and more. Below are some interview highlights:

Disliking WWE's Original NXT TV Concept: "NXT was disrespectful to wrestling in general. The entire show. When Undertaker debuted, he didn’t have to climb ladders or carry kegs. I trained to be a wrestler for a long time, so let me go out and wrestle. If you have me go out and do these stupid contests, you make me look stupid and it’s very difficult to make stars when you already made them look stupid on television."

His "The Future is Bright for Bryan Danielson" Promo on NXT: "One of the things people don’t know about NXT is that we were never told what to say, and we never knew the questions people were asking us. When the interviewer asked me “You were a big fish in a small pond and now you seemingly drowned in the sea that is the WWE”, my response was “No, this character that you created for me, he’s failed, because you created him to fail. But me, as a person, I’m better than this. I can go out and do, I can do what I’m doing right now, which is capturing the imagination of the crowd."


The Choking Justin Roberts Incident: "I did what I felt was natural, but I am not used to wrestle in a confined environment. WWE has to be very carful about being PG. I wasn’t used to that at the time. I was an independent wrestler, Sometimes I would do things because it just felt right, and when it felt right, it wasn’t right for the company."


Being a World Heavyweight Champion: "Being a world champion is cool, but you don’t just wanna be the champion, you want to be the man, you wanna be the guy they rely on for everything. Even though I was the world champion, I never was the man. John Cena, even though he isn’t the champion, he’s the man, and that’s what you aspire to be. At the and of the day, you wanna be the man."


Wanting To Do More Serious Work In WWE: "I was able to do lots of comedy stuff on Pro Wrestling Guerilla and shows like that, it’s been fun to do that to a wider audience. But now, I’m starting to feel like aching for the more serious stuff, being able to go out there and just wrestle."
 
And in the last thread, before it got locked and this one opened, someone responded to me saying that CM Punk and The Rock were similar in character, and that's why I felt the 2 of them worked better. I don't remember who it was, and the thread was locked before I could respond.

But what I meant by that is, the two guys aren't really similar in their in ring style, but they're both similar in regards to their... archetype maybe is the word I'm looking for?

What I mean by that is, The Rock is ultimately 1b in regards to the Attitude Era, sitting next to Austin. They were both the "face" of the company at one point during the era, and a case could be made for either guy (though while Rock is my favorite, the edge I think has to go to Austin as the "face of the Attitude Era"). But The Rock was at the forefront of what made the Attitude Era great... the PG-13 - R rated content week in and week out.

CM Punk is about the closest thing to "attitude era" we have currently on the roster, in a guy who cuts edgy promos, and isn't afraid to push the boundaries. He's the anti-authority figure, even if not in the same vein as Austin. Whereas Austin is referred to more as the "blue collar" guy who got to take his frustrations out on his boss, CM Punk is more of the "anti-establishment hipster" who goes against authority and what's accepted in pop culture to stand out as different.

But CM Punk is way more "Attitude Era" than John "G-Rated Captain Hero Saves The Day From the Bad Guys of the WWE" Cena. I mean a feud between The Rock and John Cena comes off as like, Batman fighting against Jafar from Aladdin. It's just two completely different styles of characters going against each other.

At least with Punk, both guys are edgy, and willing to push boundaries, and admittedly The Rock is way more PG currently than in his hey-day, I just feel that watching The Rock and CM Punk feud is more of a natural "wrestling rivalry". The characters, the feud, the storyline is way more in line with what I wanna see from wrestling than anything Cena brought to the table against The Rock, outside of his one Thuganomics promo, and the first Attitude Adjustment he gave to The Rock prior to Wrestlemania 27.

I agree with this, though there were some additional things that Cena brought in the feud with Rock that were pretty good. But nonetheless, Rock and Punk make good rivals. I wonder if it would be the same if both were good guys instead of face/heel story they've been running.
 
Punk will be scared for a few weeks, then man up at Mania, then job.

I hope it doesn't play like this. I liked how Punk dealt with Taker when they first feuded. He didn't run from Taker, he didn't believe in his spooky theatrics. Having Punk would run counter to how his character has been. He didn't back down to Cena or Rock, and he shouldn't back down to Taker no matter what.


It does damage him as Brock's whole aura is that he's the real life Terminator and Taker looks and moves like an old man no matter what WWE try to present, it's why your idea that Hitman and Lawler making Miz look a ***** doesn't fly, when the bell goes no matter what WWE say about them they look and move as exactly what they are, two middle aged men, one of whom has had a stroke, and all it does is make Miz look a fool as unlike Ian McKellan Bret and Lawler don't have Special effects to cover up for them stumbling around the ring looking every bit as middle aged as they are. No amount of kayfabe works when your eyes clearly show you two old men who can barely move.

I will say this: up until the last few years, Taker really did fit that description: Of an aging wrestler who when the bell rang, you never knew time was catching up with him. Whatever injuries or aches he had, they didn't affect his performance. But since post Wrestlemania 25, he hasn't been the same and it's been getting tougher to cover up his limitations.
 
Mark Calaway has the sweetest deal any wrestler has ever had. He gets to be booked as unstoppable and rarely loses thanks to gimmick. He hit the jackpot in 1990.
 
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