If you laughed at the crying then you probably....

The crying was fine. People make funny faces when they completely ball, unlike some movies would lead to believe. Not everyone's fault if they're so insecure with crying that they found it funny.
 
i am in agreeance (sp?) with the original post, but i also find it crazy that people make fun of tobeys faces, because as strange as it my seem, i have always loved the faces he made because yes, they do look 'strange' but people make 'strange' face when they are under extreme pain, be it phsical or emotional. i find it 'strange' it moves when actors try to look like a pimp or tough guy the whole time, no matter the situation

ive seen the movie a few times in different settings and the reactions varied, which i feels proves a point. when i saw it opening night, i saw it in a college town theatre, with the audience dominated my groups of male friends and 'first date' couples, neither handled the crying scenes well and laughed at all of them, one stereotypical college male said to his date 'all that crying was gay' as he left. i am a male in college who is getting married this summer, after the movie, my fiancee and i had a talk about how the average people at our movie theatre werent secure enough with theirselves to handle the scenes. we both felt the scenes were handled very real and very well. we later saw it with much more mixed crowds in different cities and no one spoke out or laughed at all. im not handing out general assumptions for every theatre by any means, but with my personal experiences, people dont know how to act when a emotional scene takes place in the middle of the superhero movie, everyone expects it in "Pursuit of Happiness" thus no one laughs, i dont think the average fan was expecting spidey and his friends to cry.
 
He wasn't a blubbering mess at that scene, he just choked up. There were no tears whatsoever.

Did you even read my post or just hone in on the part that you could disagree with?

And "B-b-but I love..you...!" to me, is a blubbering mess, feel free to argue semantics, but I don't think I was getting too hyperbolic there.
 
While crying in certain cirumstances is "realistic", this is a movie about a guy who can shoot webbing out of his wrists and lift 25 tons as he fights against a guy made entirely of force-of-will and sand and black mood-goo from outer space.
Realism has NO place here.

The crying in the movie was niether visually effective ( oh he's sad, or he's having a stroke, not sure just yet, gimmie a sec...)

-nor did it serve to strengthen the raport between audience and character. ( That whole scene where Peter outs Eddie as a fraud was a little ambiguous, I'm not sure we showed that Brock knows he's screwed, what with the total reversal of character from power hungry go-getter to begging for his career from his main competition. We need to make his face leak some or no-one will get that he's really up against it)

It was ham handed and overdone and was so out of place it actualy detracted from several scenes. The imgae that flashed in my head during most of the crying scenes was the now infamous "NOOOOOO" scene at the end of RotS. Over the top, contrary to character ad so badly done it was imersion breaking.
 
While crying in certain cirumstances is "realistic", this is a movie about a guy who can shoot webbing out of his wrists and lift 25 tons as he fights against a guy made entirely of force-of-will and sand and black mood-goo from outer space.
Realism has NO place here.

The crying in the movie was niether visually effective ( oh he's sad, or he's having a stroke, not sure just yet, gimmie a sec...)

-nor did it serve to strengthen the raport between audience and character. ( That whole scene where Peter outs Eddie as a fraud was a little ambiguous, I'm not sure we showed that Brock knows he's screwed, what with the total reversal of character from power hungry go-getter to begging for his career from his main competition. We need to make his face leak some or no-one will get that he's really up against it)

It was ham handed and overdone and was so out of place it actualy detracted from several scenes. The imgae that flashed in my head during most of the crying scenes was the now infamous "NOOOOOO" scene at the end of RotS. Over the top, contrary to character ad so badly done it was imersion breaking.

its your opinion, so its okay, but i just dont agree with your logic here. just because he has fantasy powers like shooting webs there is no place in the movie for real emotions like crying, i mean, there are real emotions like anger and pain in the movie, so why should crying be excluded...
 
its your opinion, so its okay, but i just dont agree with your logic here. just because he has fantasy powers like shooting webs there is no place in the movie for real emotions like crying, i mean, there are real emotions like anger and pain in the movie, so why should crying be excluded...

Sort of my point. We don't need "realistic" crying. We don't need Tobeys nose running while his face swells up. We need comic book crying, or movie crying. The kind of crying no person in real life ever does, the single tear down an otherwise stone still face. The kind of crying that could be caled symbolic, or impressionist crying. It's not exactly like real crying, but you know what it's s'posed to be.

Hyper-realism has absolutley no place in this movie. Notice Harry's head wasn't caved in after he took a steam-pipe to the noggin at flight speed. We didn't need to seee his mangled skull to get the point, he's hurt his head. I don't need to see Tobeys lower lip attached to a sewing machine to understand that these are dark times for Peter Parker.
 
Sort of my point. We don't need "realistic" crying. We don't need Tobeys nose running while his face swells up. We need comic book crying, or movie crying. The kind of crying no person in real life ever does, the single tear down an otherwise stone still face. The kind of crying that could be caled symbolic, or impressionist crying. It's not exactly like real crying, but you know what it's s'posed to be.

Hyper-realism has absolutley no place in this movie. Notice Harry's head wasn't caved in after he took a steam-pipe to the noggin at flight speed. We didn't need to seee his mangled skull to get the point, he's hurt his head. I don't need to see Tobeys lower lip attached to a sewing machine to understand that these are dark times for Peter Parker.

Ha HA! Great post. Somebody gets it!
 
Sort of my point. We don't need "realistic" crying. We don't need Tobeys nose running while his face swells up. We need comic book crying, or movie crying. The kind of crying no person in real life ever does, the single tear down an otherwise stone still face. The kind of crying that could be caled symbolic, or impressionist crying. It's not exactly like real crying, but you know what it's s'posed to be.

Hyper-realism has absolutley no place in this movie. Notice Harry's head wasn't caved in after he took a steam-pipe to the noggin at flight speed. We didn't need to seee his mangled skull to get the point, he's hurt his head. I don't need to see Tobeys lower lip attached to a sewing machine to understand that these are dark times for Peter Parker.

He became stronger so his skull really woudn't be Mangled...

So you're asking for the same old hollywood cliche supposedley epic form of crying? :dry:

Well I'm happy with what I got so w/e. :)
 
Actually, I finally saw it without the big crowd laughing, and his crying didnt seem as goofy looking. No one heard him actually say Harry's name, and I thought it was kinda sad.
 
He became stronger so his skull really woudn't be Mangled...

So you're asking for the same old hollywood cliche supposedley epic form of crying? :dry:

Well I'm happy with what I got so w/e. :)


in a comic book movie? Absolutely. In "Grandma: dying realy slowly. The Movie" probably not.
 
So you're asking for the same old hollywood cliche supposedley epic form of crying? :dry:

Understated, symbolic acting may have been a cliche in Hollywood at one point but it's certainly not a problem anymore. :ninja:
 
^It is to me, I don't want to see the same old fake crap.

Symbolic crying - It's dramatic!.... No it's cheap and old and really doesn't say much. :dry:

You talk about Realism not being a part of these movies but it's realism the comic book artists strive for when they try to draw that panel of emotion.

Perhaps Peter should of done some symbolic crying in SM1 after Uncle Ben died... :hyper:

W/E it's all just opinions.
 
Maguire plays to the back row as Peter Parker. He is a subtle nuanced actor but he plays broad i nthe Spider-Man movies. It's his skill that allows it to be so emotionally anchored with the audience. But his interpretation is Parker while quiet and introverted in a stoic/noble way, wears his heart on his sleeve.

You may disagree with this interpretation but when he literally gets the three biggest blows of his life in this movie, or so he thinks with finding out that Uncle Ben's killer is still alive and that the man he let die was "innocent" that the woman he loved all his life and was about to propose to left him and his beset friend died....he cracked up.

If you don't like it deal with it. I don't think Parker in the comics post-Romita would cry this much (though Lee/Ditko's Parker was a notrious whiner and Romita's wasn't much better afterwards) but I think after Gwen Stacy died in the comics, Parker grew up (well arguably not until ASM #200) while Parker is still a kid in all three moies and only in the last scene does Raimi choose to acknowledge Peter has finally fully grown up.

You don't like that interpretation. Fine.
 

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