I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[SwordOfMorning]

Anybody else refreshing Twitter like crazy these days?

It's rough lol

 

[BigBatTheory]

Super hot take, but apart from my fanboy brain wanting a Catwoman show my interest in more spin-offs is pretty limited. Penguin was a good show, but I still found it more reductive than anything else? I don't need a massive sub-plot about how Falcone was a serial killer, the implication in The Batman is effective and haunting. Just one of a couple examples where it felt very classic expanded universe, filling in details that don't need to be filled in - fandom wiki lore stuff.

But I also didn't particularly love a majority of the show so the prospect of more in that vein doesn't excite me much.

If it's The Penguin crew doing more spin-offs, I don't want that either. I really didnt enjoy what it did, almost at all, despite being a mega fan of the movie. I want to see more of this universe tho. 3 movies ain't enough lol.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Anybody else refreshing Twitter like crazy these days?

No. Because it doesn't exist anymore.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

If it's The Penguin crew doing more spin-offs, I don't want that either. I really didnt enjoy what it did, almost at all, despite being a mega fan of the movie. I want to see more of this universe tho. 3 movies ain't enough lol.

A little mystery keeps the romance alive.

 

[BigBatTheory]

I feel like this is exactly why the Marvel and SW shows haven't worked with a few exceptions. Andor had a purpose. Something to say. Most of these shows are made for content.

I like Penguin a lot. But if you asked me if it added anything to the Batman, I would say no. Arguably a net negative, but again I really like it. But it also doesn't need to exist as a part of that story.

The show I would be into for The Batman is the GCPD, because I do think it could really add something. More then even a Catwoman or Arkham show.

I was excited about the GCPD show when it sounded like it was gonna be this Batman's Year One from the perspective of the GCPD, with Joker getting captured at the end and Bruce and Gordon's relationship getti g established. Like I think that's an incredible idea. I fear after The Penguin, that is so far away from what we'd have gotten or would get.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

If it's The Penguin crew doing more spin-offs, I don't want that either. I really didnt enjoy what it did, almost at all, despite being a mega fan of the movie. I want to see more of this universe tho. 3 movies ain't enough lol.

I don't have any real investment in the universe as a thing to expand is sort of the thing for me. I just want a tight, three stories that wrap up conclusively. Or two stories if this one has a strong enough ending, either works.

I do genuinely like Penguin, for the record. When it's a character piece focused on Oz there's some great, great stuff. But the mafia stuff is just rank with boring cliche in the exact ways the movie avoided, the only thing that really keeps it above water for huge swathes of the mob war story is Miloti's acting - a couple of the big Sofia monologues are, imo, really bad on a writing level but Miloti does the Lord's work in masking that.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't have any real investment in the universe as a thing to expand is sort of the thing for me. I just want a tight, three stories that wrap up conclusively. Or two stories if this one has a strong enough ending, either works.

I do genuinely like Penguin, for the record. When it's a character piece focused on Oz there's some great, great stuff. But the mafia stuff is just rank with boring cliche in the exact ways the movie avoided, the only thing that really keeps it above water for huge swathes of the mob war story is Miloti's acting - a couple of the big Sofia monologues are, imo, really bad on a writing level but Miloti does the Lord's work in masking that.

They have this great idea for an Oz backstory that would've made a kick ass little flick. But they needed to make a whole ass show.

I get why people want these worlds expanded on. But the worst thing you could do with any of these series is try to do everything. Fill in every gap. One of the reason you can keep doing a new Batman story is to explore something different.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

They have this great idea for an Oz backstory that would've made a kick ass little flick. But they needed to make a whole ass TV show.

I get why people want these worlds expanded on. But the worst thing you could do with any of these series is try to do everything. Fill in every gap.

One of the reason you can keep doing a new Batman story is to explore something different.

Yep, yep. Penguin is a killer two hour movie expanded into a series. One of the ways it feels way more like a Netflix Marvel show than the movie to me. Which isn't even fully a bad thing, I like Netflix Marvel!

 

[Mindreaper21]

I was rewatching some of the interviews from the penguin and it's interesting, producer Dylan Clark made it clear they want to do more series with marque characters. As much as I am excited for the sequel, I'm also interested to see if there is another villain that makes a mark like the penguin did to warrant a series.

The thing is, there are plenty of characters that could, but this is why the second film is so important. It will give more of a direction of where the saga is going and open up new territory to explore.

There’s multiple ways that a new series could be approached. They could go for it the same as Penguin where we see the world from the villains pov.

Or how about a murder mystery series that follows Barbra as an amateur teen detective that looks into a case that no one is giving much attention to that leads her to one of the villains. You could go with Hatter, Zsasz, Calendar Man, Pyg or even a reimagined villain that will have us guessing who it is.

 

[BatsAndNights]

Honestly, considering Matt's obvious slower pace I'm quite okay with having a TV show to sorta fill the interim between movies. And as Reaper said, they have great potential to expand on characters that deserve to be fleshed out over 8 hours but simply wouldn't get that chance in a movie with Batman. My only major wish for that is Rob's involvement in the shows. The tease at the end of Penguin was nice but I seriously doubt anybody would've been upset at him showing up in the last couple of episodes after Sofia literally leaves a fresh crater in Gotham. There's no way that wouldn't immediately get Oswald and Sofia on Batman's radar at that point. It's something I can live without, but I do think Rob being used appropriately for the shows can only benefit the world and its lore