AndyTrevino
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So this is just my opinion obviously and anyone can disagree I guess but I’ve been reading Batman for about 13 years now. I have so many Batman comics it would make your head spinPlease elaborate.
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Idk, I’ve kinda always figured half the reason Gunn wanted to go with Damien as his Robin was because he was always expecting young Dick Grayson to show up in the Reevesverse. And you could not find two Robins more different from each other in backstory or personality than them, so I doubt that would be what’s holding that film up.Might explain why Gunn's been having a hard time cracking Brave and the Bold. I assumed Robin was the angle he was leaning on to differentiate the DCU Batman from Reeves'.
I guess that’s why Gunn and Reeves are paid the big bucks to figure out this else world and the DCU stuff. We’re really going to have two Batman universe at the same time with the Robin character and I know it will probably be a different Robin but it will confuse the general audience so much lol
Also, between the 21 year old Robin on the Adam West series and the 25 year old Robin in Batman Forever, it’s worth noting that we haven’t ever really seen the surrogate father/son relationship play out in live action.
Might be a good idea. Have the entire Bat-Family established and throw us into the story. Superman 25’ proved that it can work.Gunn really should consider reframing Brave and the Bold as a Bat Family movie. Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing (Grayson), Red Robin (Drake), Robin (Wayne). Heck, throw Spoiler and Orphan in there too.
Puberty.Even more curious about the villain now if Robin is a major player in this.
Hope it’s false. Absolutely hate the Robin character. Would taint the trilogy for me
So what you're saying is you think character growth is lame and that comics as a whole are also uncool.So this is just my opinion obviously and anyone can disagree I guess but I’ve been reading Batman for about 13 years now. I have so many Batman comics it would make your head spin
To me, from the genesis, Robin has sucked. Unlike say Gordon or catwoman or Joker who were made because Kane and finger actually had good ideas for these characters and they made sense for the stories in the 40s. Robin was made exclusively because dc wanted an even younger audience. Like little-little children. And in the issues you’d have cringe advertising literally having Robin say stuff like “hey fellow kids, obey authority!” “Listen to your parents” etc. he was not made because it enriches the Batman world he was made because greedy publishers wanted toddlers reading Batman
Additionally I feel like it’s just a beyond stupid concept. We can talk about suspension of disbelief and I’d suspect someone will point out that the concept of Batman himself is not plausible blah blah blah predictable rebuttal. But to me, it’s just too far to where the suspension snaps. It’s just too ridiculous for me in live action. I’m sorry. A little kid being a vigilante superhero with Bruce? The red green and yellow? No. No no no no. There’s a reason no serious live action adaptation has ever done a Robin. Burton. Nolan. And Snyder all sat down and thought about their stories and went “nah”. That’s not coincidence.
I also find Batman is more badass and compelling as a lone crusader. A one man army who works alone. A recluse. A lone wolf. A sole operator. It just seems cooler to me. Makes the stories more interesting when it’s just him and maybe ya got alfred on the comms or something like that. Or briefly teaming up with Selina. (Another adult mind you). I like that stuff. Batman needing a child or teen to help out makes him seem weak and pathetic. Ineffective. Lame. Uncool. It defeats a huge part of the appeal of Batman to me.
I could honestly go on an extended diatribe with about 2-4 more points but this is already getting long winded and I think you get my central points. Again if you like the character man that’s cool. But you asked me directly so those are just my personal thoughts. I’m not trying to argue with anyone or start a disagreement either
You need that early lone wolf. Him growing beyond that is just as important. That it's someone that reflects his own situation so much... yeah.Batman as a teacher and parent makes him relatable to me. Him as a lone wolf angry crusader is lame.
I know. My last comment was tongue in cheek. My point is comic book characters should be allowed to grow. Batman and Superman having kids is the best thing that could’ve happened.You need that early lone wolf. Him growing beyond that is just as important. That it's someone that reflects his own situation so much... yeah.
Also Reeves totally set this up. Not sure it's definitely happening, but he showed a difference in Bruce when he saw that orphan.