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Unironically something like the little john Blake wink at the audience or the hints of Robin in BvS are the most I ever wanna see done for any serious live action Batman adaptation

If he actually gets busted out full fledged in the red green and yellow I’m out. I’d be massively disappointed at the Batman part 2 if that were the case
 
I could tolerate Dick Grayson as a character in the reevesverse but him fighting alongside pattinson Batman as Robin? Bruce Wayne making him his ward? I hope Jeff is as wrong as he usually is because yuck. Disgusting. Get that **** outta here
 
Please elaborate.
So this is just my opinion obviously and anyone can disagree I guess but I’ve been reading Batman for about 13 years now. I have so many Batman comics it would make your head spin

To me, from the genesis, Robin has sucked. Unlike say Gordon or catwoman or Joker who were made because Kane and finger actually had good ideas for these characters and they made sense for the stories in the 40s. Robin was made exclusively because dc wanted an even younger audience. Like little-little children. And in the issues you’d have cringe advertising literally having Robin say stuff like “hey fellow kids, obey authority!” “Listen to your parents” etc. he was not made because it enriches the Batman world he was made because greedy publishers wanted toddlers reading Batman

Additionally I feel like it’s just a beyond stupid concept. We can talk about suspension of disbelief and I’d suspect someone will point out that the concept of Batman himself is not plausible blah blah blah predictable rebuttal. But to me, it’s just too far to where the suspension snaps. It’s just too ridiculous for me in live action. I’m sorry. A little kid being a vigilante superhero with Bruce? The red green and yellow? No. No no no no. There’s a reason no serious live action adaptation has ever done a Robin. Burton. Nolan. And Snyder all sat down and thought about their stories and went “nah”. That’s not coincidence.

I also find Batman is more badass and compelling as a lone crusader. A one man army who works alone. A recluse. A lone wolf. A sole operator. It just seems cooler to me. Makes the stories more interesting when it’s just him and maybe ya got alfred on the comms or something like that. Or briefly teaming up with Selina. (Another adult mind you). I like that stuff. Batman needing a child or teen to help out makes him seem weak and pathetic. Ineffective. Lame. Uncool. It defeats a huge part of the appeal of Batman to me.

I could honestly go on an extended diatribe with about 2-4 more points but this is already getting long winded and I think you get my central points. Again if you like the character man that’s cool. But you asked me directly so those are just my personal thoughts. I’m not trying to argue with anyone or start a disagreement either
 

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I've never missed verifying my power is vast. But it is Jeff Sneider, notorious fibber, so I will need all of your strength.

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Robin is undoubtedly an important part of Batman mythology... But let's not pretend that, in the character's 85-year history, it's impossible to fill a whole library of Batman comics in which Robin is absent or at least very much in the background. It's entirely possible, and legitimate, to be a fan without particularly liking Robin. No offense to the Inquisition. :oldrazz:

Personally, I have nothing against the character, and even though I understand how he could contribute to the evolution of the Battinson, I think I would rather see him appear in a universe that would more readily welcome his "antics and other acrobatics". Of course, you can always adapt a character, but... I don't know.
Actually, I don't have any particular expectations for this sequel—I'll just let myself be surprised!

But if they go the Robin route, then get Alfie Williams.
 
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I can see Bruce finding Dick later in the movie, maybe kidnapped or involved in the villain's plan as a victim.

This is a year-2/year-3 Batman. It's too soon having a sidekick but it's the right time to stop being a boy under the shadow of his parents and become a man who adopt a young boy like him.
 
Might explain why Gunn's been having a hard time cracking Brave and the Bold. I assumed Robin was the angle he was leaning on to differentiate the DCU Batman from Reeves'.
Idk, I’ve kinda always figured half the reason Gunn wanted to go with Damien as his Robin was because he was always expecting young Dick Grayson to show up in the Reevesverse. And you could not find two Robins more different from each other in backstory or personality than them, so I doubt that would be what’s holding that film up.
 
I guess that’s why Gunn and Reeves are paid the big bucks to figure out this else world and the DCU stuff. We’re really going to have two Batman universe at the same time with the Robin character and I know it will probably be a different Robin but it will confuse the general audience so much lol
 
I guess that’s why Gunn and Reeves are paid the big bucks to figure out this else world and the DCU stuff. We’re really going to have two Batman universe at the same time with the Robin character and I know it will probably be a different Robin but it will confuse the general audience so much lol

Gunn really should consider reframing Brave and the Bold as a Bat Family movie. Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing (Grayson), Red Robin (Drake), Robin (Wayne). Heck, throw Spoiler and Orphan in there too.
 
Also, between the 21 year old Robin on the Adam West series and the 25 year old Robin in Batman Forever, it’s worth noting that we haven’t ever really seen the surrogate father/son relationship play out in live action.

We saw a surrogate father/son relationship with Adam West and Burt Ward. While Ward himself was 21, his Robin was definitely a teenager, and West's Batman frequently imparts knowledge to him the way a father would his son.

The problem there was that it was often presented in a comedic way, rather than anything serious.
 
Guys the only reason I’m here is because I love Robin so much. If this is true, I can’t even express how happy I am.

I’ve waited for this moment for almost my whole life. I was just a little kid when Batman and Robin came out and I’ve been waiting for Robin onscreen since. Titans and John Blake do not count.

Reeves is gonna do it.

**** yes. Best news ever, this is gonna be a good day.

My son and I were born 30 years apart and he’s going to be the same age that I was when Batman and Robin came out (which was the last time we got Robin onscreen). Fun coincidence.
 
Holy **** if this is true I am so happy guys. All I wanted was Robin for this movie. Anything else is gravy. Fantastic.

Maybe freeze or Hugo Strange in there too? Tbh idc if we get my boy Robin. My favorite character in fiction
 
I really hope this is true given Reeves has already created what I'd argue is not only my favorite iteration of Batman ever but maybe my favorite DC movie?

He can kinda do no wrong and finally seeing a version of live-action Robin that isn't super campy/ridiculous would be a breathe of fresh air and wildly popular if handled properly
 
Gunn really should consider reframing Brave and the Bold as a Bat Family movie. Batman, Batgirl, Nightwing (Grayson), Red Robin (Drake), Robin (Wayne). Heck, throw Spoiler and Orphan in there too.
Might be a good idea. Have the entire Bat-Family established and throw us into the story. Superman 25’ proved that it can work.
 
I've been agains Robin for a long time, and even although I prefer Bats being a lonely figure, this time I want the boy wonder. TAS's Robin's Reckoning were great episodes and made me appreciate the charater, so if done right, it could be really interesting.
 
Since Reeves spreads character progression across movies, I'm not even expecting Robin, hopefully its Dick, to suit up in part 2. I'm extremely anxious about the casting of this role now though. Could this be one of the spinoffs that was alluded to?

I hope that clown Sneider is right about this one.
 
So this is just my opinion obviously and anyone can disagree I guess but I’ve been reading Batman for about 13 years now. I have so many Batman comics it would make your head spin

To me, from the genesis, Robin has sucked. Unlike say Gordon or catwoman or Joker who were made because Kane and finger actually had good ideas for these characters and they made sense for the stories in the 40s. Robin was made exclusively because dc wanted an even younger audience. Like little-little children. And in the issues you’d have cringe advertising literally having Robin say stuff like “hey fellow kids, obey authority!” “Listen to your parents” etc. he was not made because it enriches the Batman world he was made because greedy publishers wanted toddlers reading Batman

Additionally I feel like it’s just a beyond stupid concept. We can talk about suspension of disbelief and I’d suspect someone will point out that the concept of Batman himself is not plausible blah blah blah predictable rebuttal. But to me, it’s just too far to where the suspension snaps. It’s just too ridiculous for me in live action. I’m sorry. A little kid being a vigilante superhero with Bruce? The red green and yellow? No. No no no no. There’s a reason no serious live action adaptation has ever done a Robin. Burton. Nolan. And Snyder all sat down and thought about their stories and went “nah”. That’s not coincidence.

I also find Batman is more badass and compelling as a lone crusader. A one man army who works alone. A recluse. A lone wolf. A sole operator. It just seems cooler to me. Makes the stories more interesting when it’s just him and maybe ya got alfred on the comms or something like that. Or briefly teaming up with Selina. (Another adult mind you). I like that stuff. Batman needing a child or teen to help out makes him seem weak and pathetic. Ineffective. Lame. Uncool. It defeats a huge part of the appeal of Batman to me.

I could honestly go on an extended diatribe with about 2-4 more points but this is already getting long winded and I think you get my central points. Again if you like the character man that’s cool. But you asked me directly so those are just my personal thoughts. I’m not trying to argue with anyone or start a disagreement either
So what you're saying is you think character growth is lame and that comics as a whole are also uncool.
 
Batman as a teacher and parent makes him relatable to me. Him as a lone wolf angry crusader is lame.
You need that early lone wolf. Him growing beyond that is just as important. That it's someone that reflects his own situation so much... yeah.

Also Reeves totally set this up. Not sure it's definitely happening, but he showed a difference in Bruce when he saw that orphan.
 
You need that early lone wolf. Him growing beyond that is just as important. That it's someone that reflects his own situation so much... yeah.

Also Reeves totally set this up. Not sure it's definitely happening, but he showed a difference in Bruce when he saw that orphan.
I know. My last comment was tongue in cheek. My point is comic book characters should be allowed to grow. Batman and Superman having kids is the best thing that could’ve happened.
 

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