I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[Lily Adler]

Stop it with Hush and the CoO…

It’ll thankfully never happen.

Thomas Wayne is in the Epstein Files and Bruce must stop glorifying his parents.

 

[BobJM]

I guess I'm the only one thinking this with the ScarJo casting (even if she ends up being Gilda).

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Not saying I think it's likely but I also wouldn't be surprised either.

It’s a cool visual, but then you’re stuck with a dead Harvey and Lady Two Face. I’d much prefer seeing Harvey stick around…

 

[BatLobster]

One reason I’ve been sort of doubtful that Reeves would tackle Dent/Two-Face is he’s been adamant that the story stay committed to Bruce’s story and POV and not become more centered on the villains stories like previous Bat-sequels. The Dent story by nature is a hefty tragic arc, one that demands a lot of screen time and development. Especially if this time it’s going to be a deeper dive into the Dent family. Now one way around this potentially is to make Bruce and Harvey childhood friends and explore that relationship, which could be a good way to go.

“It’s going to dig into the epic story about deeper corruption, and it goes into places he couldn’t even anticipate in the first one”

I’m still hanging my hat on this quote from Reeves as the most important indicator of what this story is going to be about. There are interesting ways a Dent-centered story can play into that, but I still think ultimately this plot is going to be about unraveling deeper layers of corruption than what was revealed in the first movie. I mean, Reeves pretty blatantly said it was.

 

[BigBatTheory]

 

[BobJM]

One reason I’ve been sort of doubtful that Reeves would tackle Dent/Two-Face is he’s been adamant that the story stay committed to Bruce’s story and POV and not become more centered on the villains stories like previous Bat-sequels. The Dent story by nature is a hefty tragic arc, one that demands a lot of screen time and development. Especially if this time it’s going to be a deeper dive into the Dent family. Now the way around this potentially is to make Bruce and Harvey childhood friends and explore that relationship, which could be a good way to go.



I’m still hanging my hat on this quote from Reeves as the most important indicator of what this story is going to be about. There are interesting ways a Dent-centered story can play into that, but I still think ultimately this plot is going to be about unraveling deeper layers of corruption than what was revealed in the first movie. I mean, Reeves pretty blatantly said it was.

Holiday’s killers will be connected through the Court of Owls; there’s the deeper corruption Bruce can’t imagine. And the Wayne legacy is at the heart of it—the secret drove Martha mad

 

[Luke995]

One reason I’ve been sort of doubtful that Reeves would tackle Dent/Two-Face is he’s been adamant that the story stay committed to Bruce’s story and POV and not become more centered on the villains stories like previous Bat-sequels. The Dent story by nature is a hefty tragic arc, one that demands a lot of screen time and development. Especially if this time it’s going to be a deeper dive into the Dent family. Now one way around this potentially is to make Bruce and Harvey childhood friends and explore that relationship, which could be a good way to go.



I’m still hanging my hat on this quote from Reeves as the most important indicator of what this story is going to be about. There are interesting ways a Dent-centered story can play into that, but I still think ultimately this plot is going to be about unraveling deeper layers of corruption than what was revealed in the first movie. I mean, Reeves pretty blatantly said it was.

This.

Reeves stated clearly that this will be the story of Bruce and basically criticized TDK to focus too much on villains and forget about Bruce.
And that was an "Harvey Dent movie" as would be this one if the rumors are true.

That's why I don't buy it.

I'm not saying it's whole a fake, but that's linked in some way with Bruce and he is at the center.

Plus: there rumors completely lacks details on who is the villain and how it would drive the story.
Ok, Harvey, Gilda and Christopher... And?

 

[dhandler01]

I ran into him at in the funnel/entrance after a Beach House show at First Avenue. He had a blank hat on MCU style and I was like, that guy is too hot to be a normal person.

Then went outside and he was smoking by the band door/garage entrance and it was totally him. I shouted, JOSH? And he just raised his hand and gave me the peace sign.

Yeah I had friends run into him at Lake Calhoun and my gf used to see him around all the time. Super nice I guess!

And we have now bored everyone

 

[Johnny Frost]

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Genuine question, who is this guy?

 

[BobJM]

This.

Reeves stated clearly that this will be the story of Bruce and basically criticized TDK to focus too much on villains and forget about Bruce.
And that was an "Harvey Dent movie" as would be this one if the rumors are true.

That's why I don't buy it.

I'm not saying it's whole a fake, but that's linked in some way with Bruce and he is at the center.

Plus: there rumors completely lacks details on who is the villain and how it would drive the story.
Ok, Harvey, Gilda and Christopher... And?

If the rumors are true—new villains could possibly be Two Face and a Holiday killer. And then there’s the Dr. Arkham rumor.

Plus, we’ve still got Penguin in the mix (albeit a small role) and maybe even Joker and Riddler returning.

 

[Eddie Dean]

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Who is Sean o Connell

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Lmao he’s an editor at CBR.

 

[dhandler01]

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Oh man...please tell me that the scoopers all got played! Not even cause I don't want Dent just cause the fallout will be delicious especially around here!

Nothing beat the fake script for BvS that exposed all the grifters for the frauds they are! Too many people give them too much legitimacy.

 

[BigBatTheory]

honey the scoopers are fighting again

 

[Luke995]

If the rumors are true—new villains could possibly be Two Face and a Holiday killer. And then there’s the Dr. Arkham rumor.

Plus, we’ve still got Penguin in the mix (albeit a small role) and maybe even Joker and Riddler returning.

Harvey is not even being set up in this trilogy. So he wouldn't be Two Face before the third act (remember something?).

As for Holiday... Reeves said the villain won't be a serial killer again, and with the 80% of mobsters killed off who is he supposed to strike to not seems a new version of Riddler?

 

[AndyTrevino]

If we’re looking at Oppenheimer alum, I’d take Benny Safdie over Josh Hartnett

Alden Ehrenreich or bust.

 

[Venom 1988]

It’s a cool visual, but then you’re stuck with a dead Harvey and Lady Two Face. I’d much prefer seeing Harvey stick around…

That's totally fair but I think it's also a out of left field idea I could see Reeves gravitating to as well.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Gunn denied the Bautista rumours today but not this. I’d imagine if this is untrue he’ll do his shtick for it very soon. He usually will especially jump on Sneider when he’s wrong.

 

[BobJM]

Harvey is not even being set up in this trilogy. So he wouldn't be Two Face before the third act (remember something?).

As for Holiday... Reeves said the villain won't be a serial killer again, and with the 80% of mobsters killed off who is he supposed to strike to not seems a new version of Riddler?

I remember TDK if that’s what you’re referring to. And I liked it in The Long Halloween. I liked it in Season 1 of Caped Crudader (even if the design left me wanting). You could do Harvey/Two Face across Pt II and III if there are stories Reeves is looking to prioritize, sure, but it’s not necessary.

If we get another 3 hour movie, I’d be perfectly fine with 2 hours of Harvey and 1 hour of Two Face. Especially if Reeves explores more of the Dent character than we ever saw in TDK.

 

[BobJM]

That's totally fair but I think it's also a out of left field idea I could see Reeves gravitating to as well.

No, I wouldn’t rule it out either but, IMO, Earth One went off the rails almost immediately with Chapters II and III.

Cool scene still, and I’m sure ScarJo would love that twist too.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Earth One has many good ideas but unfortunately it is written by Geoff Johns who couldn’t write his way out of a paper bag.

 

[BigBatTheory]

What do you guys think about this theory? Probably the most reasonable one I've read if the Gilda rumor is true.

 

[Lily Adler]

Gunn denied the Bautista rumours today but not this. I’d imagine if this is untrue he’ll do his shtick for it very soon. He usually will especially jump on Sneider when he’s wrong.

The fandom is wearing that old man down.

 

[darkdefective]

Would I be alone in thinking that we may get both Hush and Hugo Strange here? Hush getting the primary focus but Hugo is the overarching villain in the background.

With Arkham’s inclusion I think Hugo will be an inevitability.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

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What do you guys think about this theory? Probably the most reasonable one I've read if the Gilda rumor is true.

Oh hey, it’s exiled Hype superstar Invader Joker. Very creative. Will never happen, or anything close to it, but it’s clever. Christopher Dent being a Roy Cohn type is cool.

 

[BobJM]

Theory Part1
Theory Part2
Theory Part3

What do you guys think about this theory? Probably the most reasonable one I've read if the Gilda rumor is true.

Interesting ideas— I like the idea that White Knight Harvey Dent was going to expose high society corruption. Sounds as good as any other theories at this point.