In The End, Was The Wrestling Thread Worth It?

[OnTheAir]

Bryan needs a bigger stage for his ultimate win. His victory shouldn't come at a B-level pay per view like Elimination Chamber. After all that he has been through on camera and off, his big title win should come at the grandest stage of 'em all: Wrestlemania.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Bryan needs a bigger stage for his ultimate win. His victory shouldn't come at a B-level pay per view like Elimination Chamber. After all that he has been through on camera and off, his big title win should come at the grandest stage of 'em all: Wrestlemania.

 

[sweetre15]

Bryan needs a bigger stage for his ultimate win. His victory shouldn't come at a B-level pay per view like Elimination Chamber. After all that he has been through on camera and off, his big title win should come at the grandest stage of 'em all: Wrestlemania.

Well WWE has booked themselves into a corner because they risk making Bryan look like a choke artist by having him miss out on the big one so many times.

 

[Dr. Evil]

We all know what's happening at WM 30: He's going to be buried by the son in law.

 

[The Sage]

Bryan needs a bigger stage for his ultimate win. His victory shouldn't come at a B-level pay per view like Elimination Chamber. After all that he has been through on camera and off, his big title win should come at the grandest stage of 'em all: Wrestlemania.

Well, they're in a precarious situation. What you're saying, I agree with. But if Bryan gets eliminated and doesn't walk out with the belt tonight, how will the crowd react? If he does win, he won't have as big of a moment at Wrestlemania if he successfully defends the belt.

I guess what's one more PPV with the crowd spewing all over the main-event?

This is why Bryan should've won the Royal Rumble. He could've avoided being in the chamber match and wrestled Kane to end their feud before moving on to the title picture.

 

[sweetre15]

I hope the WWE has learned from this past fall that when you screw over talent the audience supports on a constant basis, you make the quailty of the product become stagnant and stale which is why TLC only did marginally better than last year with Cena and Orton in the main event and why Survivor Series flopped epically. It's also why viewership plummets in the thrid hour on a constant basis.


I also feel that HHH is damaging his own "drawing power" with this Authority Angle because he used to be able to pop ratings etc in a big way when he was only appearing for a couple months at a time but look at the ratings post NOC despite him being there 24/7. He's overstayed his onscreen welcome and his drawing abilities have suffered because of it.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Well, they're in a precarious situation. What you're saying, I agree with. But if Bryan gets eliminated and doesn't walk out with the belt tonight, how will the crowd react? If he does win, he won't have as big of a moment at Wrestlemania if he successfully defends the belt.

I guess what's one more PPV with the crowd spewing all over the main-event?

This is why Bryan should've won the Royal Rumble. He could've avoided being in the chamber match and wrestled Kane to end their feud before moving on to the title picture.

Especially since he would be defending it against....Dave Batista.

 

[sweetre15]

Honestly, I wouldnt mind Bryan winning if this happened in the build for Mania:

- Batista turns heel and joins HHH as his new Muscle in his quest to get the belt off of Bryan

- Both turn on Orton and brutally beat him and tell him he's outlived his usefulness. Which could put Orton on storyline injury to sell the beating.

- Bryan and Batista have a "David vs Goliath" type feud. The good thing about this type of feud is that they can capitalize both on Bryan's mainstream exposure AND push Batista's "mainstream exposure" with Guardians of The Galaxy" to build hype for the PPV.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

- Bryan and Batista have a "David vs Goliath" type feud.

They've already done this with Bryan as World Champ and it failed.

 

[sweetre15]

They've already done this with Bryan as World Champ and it failed.

Was that more so because of HOW it was booked or because the concept itself?

Though, it is worth noting that Batista's size doesnt look anywhere near as imposing at it did in his heyday because he isnt juiced up like he used to be.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Was that more so because of HOW it was booked or because the concept itself?

A little bit of both. Bryan was being made to look weak prior to his World Title win AND big guys where all he was facing for said belt.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The biggest thing killing this Authority angle is the confusing booking of HHH and Stephanie. Some weeks they play full heel and some weeks they are dressing down Randy Orton and *****ing about him attacking John Cena's father at ringside and not fully backing him up. The audience really doesn't know how to react to them now because of the lack of consistency in the booking. It's not doing them or Randy Orton any favors as heels.

 

[sweetre15]

A little bit of both. Bryan was being made to look weak prior to his World Title win AND big guys where all he was facing for said belt.

Well that's the thing you dont book him like they booked Mysterio in 2006. They've had to take more influence from Bryan's feud with Morishima or even CM Punk vs Lesnar in that regard where both look credible and tough going into the PPV despite the size difference.

Hell, There are even good Spider-man stories that can be framework for how a "Big vs Small" feud with Bryan and another big guy can go. Which helps because Bryan IS WWE's Peter Parker.

 

[sweetre15]

The biggest thing killing this Authority angle is the confusing booking of HHH and Stephanie. Some weeks they play full heel and some weeks they are dressing down Randy Orton and *****ing about him attacking John Cena's father at ringside and not fully backing him up. The audience really doesn't know how to react to them now because of the lack of consistency in the booking. It's not doing them or Randy Orton any favors as heels.

This is definitely true, The story is filled with breaks from continuity and lots of flip-flopping which has killed the heat of this whole angle. HHH and Steph have pretty much buried themselves onscreen with all this flip-flopping.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

HHH is burying himself without actually burying himself?

 

[sweetre15]

HHH is burying himself without actually burying himself?

Essentially lol. He's unintenionally buried himself by killing the heat of this big angle with all the flip-flopping. During Mania Season and the beginning of Summer, his segments use to pop viewership in a relatively big way but not anymore.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

Essentially lol. He's unintenionally buried himself by killing the heat of this big angle with all the flip-flopping. During Mania Season and the beginning of Summer, his segments use to pop viewership in a relatively big way but not anymore.

That's why Hunter is the King of Burials! t:

 

[TheNextNolan22]

 

[X Knight]

just read the news about Jake.

hope he gets well soon.

 

[sweetre15]

As I was saying, Brock or Batista could do a good job being The Rhino or Venom to Daniel Bryan's Spider-Man. Both of those characters have a huge size difference over Spidey in most comic book depictions and I've seen Parker either outsmart or hold his own physically when facing those guys in both comics and cartoons.

On a side note, God forbid if Vince Mcmahon wrote a Spider-man comic. Parker would get squashed by Venom, Rhino, Sandman, Kingpin, and he'd even have Juggernaut cameo just to squash him somemore because well "Size Matters".

 

[TheNextNolan22]

I really hope these two upcoming events ROH and NJPW are doing together will grow into something bigger in the future and that New Japan doesn’t work with NWA ever again. If Michael Tarver, Big Daddy Yum Yum, and Rob Conway are the "best" the NWA has to offer, then that company needs to die now.

Give me more guys like Michael Elgin, Adam Cole, Jay Lethal, Chris Hero, AJ Styles, Kevin Steen, and Roderick Strong.

 

[The Sage]

Especially since he would be defending it against....Dave Batista.

LOL. It would be better if Dave was walking in as champion and Bryan defeated him instead.

They should go with your option of Bryan getting taken out of the match and Vince adding him. The reason for it, I don't know. But they need to make up something.

Triple H should just sit this Wrestlemania out. Or maybe just maybe on March 3rd returning star will be his opponent and we would have bear witnessed to greatest shoot/work ever.

Honestly, I wouldnt mind Bryan winning if this happened in the build for Mania:

- Batista turns heel and joins HHH as his new Muscle in his quest to get the belt off of Bryan

- Both turn on Orton and brutally beat him and tell him he's outlived his usefulness. Which could put Orton on storyline injury to sell the beating.

- Bryan and Batista have a "David vs Goliath" type feud. The good thing about this type of feud is that they can capitalize both on Bryan's mainstream exposure AND push Batista's "mainstream exposure" with Guardians of The Galaxy" to build hype for the PPV.

Giving Bryan that type of opponent would work after having his big moment at Mania.

 

[bullets]

I can only imagine the chorus of boos tonight when Orton pins Bryan tonight in the middle of the ring. He'll be soaking up that heat and genuinely enjoying it. Haha fans, tonight you'll see who the boss is . The new tag line for wrestlemania 30 will be "shut up and like it"

 

[Slushy]

Eddie Guerrero won the WWE Championship at No Way Out and that was a wonderful moment. I'm just saying.

 

[TheNextNolan22]

LOL. It would be better if Dave was walking in as champion and Bryan defeated him instead.

They should go with your option of Bryan getting taken out of the match and Vince adding him. The reason for it, I don't know. But they need to make up something.

Triple H should just sit this Wrestlemania out. Or maybe just maybe on March 3rd returning star will be his opponent and we would have bear witnessed to greatest shoot/work ever.

Agreed with all of this. Bryan being medically uncleared to compete would make a lot of sense and Batista cashing in his shot early would work.