Incredible Hulk 2

[T"Challa]

No news but Tate Taylor, director of The Help and the James Brown movie Get on Up, expressed interest in a Hulk movie.
http://collider.com/tate-taylor-get-on-up-tupperware-interview/#more-349706
Marvel could do a lot worse

Tate Taylor is a white guy? lol..man, the guy nailed 2 african american centered movies so well. Kudos

 

[Roose Bolton]

Maybe that will help if he does indeed get to do a movie about a green guy.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Tate Taylor is a white guy? lol..man, the guy nailed 2 african american centered movies so well. Kudos

The black blog site Shadow and Act is enraged that Taylor is a white guy directing Get on Up. In fact they get enraged every time a white person directs a black themed movie.

So they will probably get enraged if Marvel decides to have a white guy direct Black Panther.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

same as some are enraged over a black johnny storm.....some people never get it...

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Tate Taylor has my respect because both of his movies were special. And I'd give him a chance on a Hulk movie, he could surprise a lot of people.

 

[Dr. Evil]

If he ever talks to Marvel about directing the next Hulk movie, he's going to have to allow involvement from Joss Whedon.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I figure he probably knows he won't have full creative control considering hulk is a part of a bigger universe.

but if they love his pitch then he could very well end up in the directors chair.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Edit.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I figure he probably knows he won't have full creative control considering hulk is a part of a bigger universe.

but if they love his pitch then he could very well end up in the directors chair.

He would of course have to win Ruffalo over because I think I heard him say that only Joss can do his character right.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I think ruffalo may be speaking of joss' writing rather than his directing. If the script portrays hulk and banner in the fashion that whedon writes them (which im sure they'd get as close as they can and probably get joss to polish it) Then he'd have no problem with tate directing I imagine.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I think ruffalo may be speaking of joss' writing rather than his directing. If the script portrays hulk and banner in the fashion that whedon writes them (which im sure they'd get as close as they can and probably get joss to polish it) Then he'd have no problem with tate directing I imagine.

Sure.

With the expanded schedule, if we get a Ruffalo led Hulk film as well as Black Panther and Captain Marvel, then I will be pleased.

 

[batdude]

same as some are enraged over a black johnny storm.....some people never get it...

That's different. I just think Johnny should look as Stan Lee and Jack Kirby intended. I could care less about what color a director is.

 

[CoherentChaos]

I think an angle that would work really well thematically for the Hulk sequel is "fear".

Ever since becoming the Hulk, Banner hasn't felt fear. Not in the purest sense of the word. He's had bouts of depression, nihilism, existential dread et al, but he hasn't viscerally feared for his life. Not when Black Widow and dozens of SHIELD agents had guns trained at him in Calcutta. Not when he fell thousands of feet. Not when the Chitauri swarmed the Hulk in NY. Not against the Abomination. And certainly not when the Hulk went up against a puny god. Maybe he will against Ultron, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it.

What if an enemy (Leader would be my preference) came up with some way to absolutely end Banner and by proxy the Hulk? How will Banner deal with the fact that the "indestructible" Hulk turns out to be something of a misnomer?

I feel as Bruce is altruistic enough to not be overly concerned about his own life, even if he knew of something that can end the Hulk. He even tried to kill himself. Sure, depression may have lead to that as much as anything else, but I feel as though one of his biggest fears, aside from hurting the innocent/those close to him, is being captured by General Ross and having the power of the Hulk drawn out of him and abused.

So in addition to everything else that may have lead him to put a barrel in his mouth in the middle of nowhere, I think denying Ross of his prize may have been a motive.

Of course now that Bruce has something to live for (assuming the events of AoU don't completely destroy his faith in teamwork and his role in the world, essentially putting him back in a mindset similar to pre-Avengers), you could argue that threat of death may be an issue for him again, but I think it may require a near-death experience first. As you said, he doesn't really feel fear.

He seemed pretty cocky about not being able to die in his Avengers dialogue. I guess surviving a bullet to the brain will do that to you. So maybe that went to his head (har har), and you have to deconstruct that before you can explore fear of death as a theme. So what earthly thing could almost kill the Hulk, but not quite do the job enough so that Bruce can be shaken up about it afterwards?

 

[fixxxer]

I feel as Bruce is altruistic enough to not be overly concerned about his own life, even if he knew of something that can end the Hulk. He even tried to kill himself. Sure, depression may have lead to that as much as anything else, but I feel as though one of his biggest fears, aside from hurting the innocent/those close to him, is being captured by General Ross and having the power of the Hulk drawn out of him and abused.

So in addition to everything else that may have lead him to put a barrel in his mouth in the middle of nowhere, I think denying Ross of his prize may have been a motive.

Of course now that Bruce has something to live for (assuming the events of AoU don't completely destroy his faith in teamwork and his role in the world, essentially putting him back in a mindset similar to pre-Avengers), you could argue that threat of death may be an issue for him again, but I think it may require a near-death experience first. As you said, he doesn't really feel fear.

He seemed pretty cocky about not being able to die in his Avengers dialogue. I guess surviving a bullet to the brain will do that to you. So maybe that went to his head (har har), and you have to deconstruct that before you can explore fear of death as a theme. So what earthly thing could almost kill the Hulk, but not quite do the job enough so that Bruce can be shaken up about it afterwards?

Agreed with a lot of that. The one thing I would like to add to is that I'm not saying that he would fear death in the abstract. Banner is someone who would very much make the so-called "sacrifice play" if it came to that. The thing is, he (rightly) believes himself to be indestructible... whether it might be a blessing or a curse. In that mindset, to suddenly, viscerally face mortality, would be somewhat unnerving. For both Banner, and (shudder) the Hulk.

Yea, there's a reason I put out the theme in abstract without fleshing out the structure. Off hand, I just couldn't think of something/someone who'd be able to literally "end" the Hulk on a physical level. I'm assuming the Leader is an order of magnitude smarter than the likes of us and can come up with something appropriate.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Only way to end the hulk on a physical level I'd assume, is to cure banner. Which I could see the leader being able to do.

 

[CoherentChaos]

That reminds me of a great moment in the 2003 Hulk video game, where the Leader tricks Bruce into draining all of his gamma into an orb, effectively curing him of the Hulk.

Bruce then has to sneak through a ton of gamma soldiers who will basically annihilate you if the catch you, until you reach the Leader and get your hands on the orb. Bruce says "This isn't your power, this is my curse and I'm taking it back!" and takes back the power of the Hulk. And then boss battle.

Something like that could be cool if adapted to film.

 

[Obi-Ron]

That was a fun game.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

That reminds me of a great moment in the 2003 Hulk video game, where the Leader tricks Bruce into draining all of his gamma into an orb, effectively curing him of the Hulk.

Bruce then has to sneak through a ton of gamma soldiers who will basically annihilate you if the catch you, until you reach the Leader and get your hands on the orb. Bruce says "This isn't your power, this is my curse and I'm taking it back!" and takes back the power of the Hulk. And then boss battle.

Something like that could be cool if adapted to film.

I had that in mind too

 

[KDM1986]

All of that sounds so awesome!

 

[Marvelocity]

Yes to all of that. I would hate to see Marvel abandon the Leader storyline they started in the Incredible Hulk. A gamma army vs. Hulk would work.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

same as some are enraged over a black johnny storm.....some people never get it...

That's very different. Johnny Storm is a classic character that is seen on screen. A director is a behind the scenes brain controlling the creativity of the movie.

It's like complaining about who grilled your steak vs. expecting a steak and getting a pork chop.

And for the record, I like pork chops too. I just don't like when someone gives me pork chops just so they can stand up and announce to the world that they gave me pork chops instead of a steak.

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

That reminds me of a great moment in the 2003 Hulk video game, where the Leader tricks Bruce into draining all of his gamma into an orb, effectively curing him of the Hulk.

Bruce then has to sneak through a ton of gamma soldiers who will basically annihilate you if the catch you, until you reach the Leader and get your hands on the orb. Bruce says "This isn't your power, this is my curse and I'm taking it back!" and takes back the power of the Hulk. And then boss battle.

Something like that could be cool if adapted to film.

That would be a brilliant story to use. Bruce finally breaks free of his curse like he's been wanting for years, but when he realizes the price, he takes responsibility for it and makes the Leader's head swell even bigger.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I'd like for bruce to have to face the choice of being cured of what he's accepted and knows can be force for good in order to live an ordinary life, or accept that his life will never more be as simple as it once was.

 

[Sexy Magician]

I just want to see him fight Absorbing Man

 

[Gamma Goliath]

It'd be cool to see him as an underling without a lot of attention imo. But I'd like to see a more mutated abomination and a couple other gamma creatures, maybe even a rendition of the wendigo, all pawns of the leader of course.