Independence Day 2? - Part 2

[Slushy]

Edit:

I'm not gonna to put that as a Con against a movie

Too bad.

 

[MadVillainy]

Too bad for what?

 

[X-Ray]

My wife loved the first one and forced me to go watch this with her tonight and I wish I had walked out.




On the bright side,



Rating: 2/10

Jessie Usher's character was an Air Force Captain. Either way he just wasn't selling it.

As for everyone being able to pilot the alien ships. Their own ships are based on the alien tech from the 1st invasion. That annoying "I want to bang the hot Chinese chick" kid said the control system were still the same from 1996 alien ships.

Another bright moment was seeing the late Robert Loggia on the big screen one last time. He was the Marine General in 1996.

 

[Slushy]

I don't see any similarities to MBJ or Woodley.

Those roles were tailor made for them, who would've portrayed those characters WAY better!

As for everyone being able to pilot the alien ships. Their own ships are based on the alien tech from the 1st invasion. That annoying "I want to bang the hot Chinese chick" kid said the control system were still the same from 1996 alien ships.

It was irritating. I was expecting Dr. Okun, Rosenberg, and Levinson's dad to fly around in all the ships too!

Another bright moment was seeing the late Robert Loggia on the big screen one last time. He was the Marine General in 1996.

Good eye.

 

[hopeless]

Okay still reading the novelization, plan on watching the movie tomorrow.

My first thoughts on what I've read from the book and here is why not just reveal the original mothership left ships to prepare to strip mine the outer planets?

So 20 years later they're preparing to invade when a Russian expedition investigating Rhea to establish a base stumbles onto them and sends a warning before they're taken out.

The actual battle is focused on Mars rather than Earth because there's actual evidence it had been inhabited.

When Okan was used to communicate with Whitmore what he perceived was actually what the aliens thought of US!

When Mars was rendered uninhabitable the survivors colonised Earth meaning ID4 wasn't the first time the aliens tried to wipe out humanity.

The next movie would involve taking the fight to the aliens in the Outer Planets making it clear they're been expecting reinforcements since the mothership was blown up!

Well tomorrow I'll find out what this film is really like!

 

[BeserkerHilf]

What the hell are you talking about?

 

[I'm Old Greg]

Color me more than confused because just less than 3 hrs you stated you haven't seen it, yet here you're acting like you have by calling out minutes and everything - for someone who just hours before says they haven't seen it... Weird.

That was moments before I saw it.
Vivika Fox had a better part In SHARKNADO 2!
So did Jud Hirsh he more to do driving the cab in Sharknado 2!

The huge CGI alien at the end wtf are they trying to make up for Godzilla??

 

[hopeless]

What the hell are you talking about?

I'm pointing out there was another way they could have handled this rather than repeat events from the original movie.

Finished the book, going to see the movie later today think they should have revealed

Spoiler

Jake and Dylan were friends, Dylan's mother and stepfather had kids of their own and one of them was killed in the crash that involved Jake.

Dylan holds Jake responsible even though it should be clear he was washed out to avoid anyone taking a closer look at the hybrid fighter that also cost the life of Dylan's father.

My point is that when the aliens return they override and deactivate the reverse engineered technology humanity stole from them making things much more desperate.

Emphasize what wins the fight is the fact humanity wasn't solely focused on the recovered alien tech with Goldblum's character having actually suspected this might happen so they retained some of the older tech to counter the alien's attempt to simple speed bump all human resistance.

 

[Supernova]

I think this movie failed to do what recent movies like jurassic world and the force awakens did. Do a soft reboot and tredge old territory with interesting new characters. The effects were top notch and the action was solid but everything else was boring and flat.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think reason the Jurassic World worked so well for audiences is that it actually made you felt like you were watching Jurassic Park again. The aesthetic and style were similar. It hit the nostalgia notes of the first one better than the lesser perceived sequels. It also had more fun and appealing characters in it than the sequels did.

It's far from a perfect movie, but it was better made than a film like Resurgence was.

I maintain that ID4 was a classic, groundbreaking movie of its era. Resurgence I think wanted to play the Jurassic World role, but it simply couldn't.

 

[kguillou]

So, I trust you gentlemen more than the critics, as a dumb fun popcorn film does this film work? Is it worth seeing in theater or just wait to rent it?

 

[Boom]

I found it extremely boring. Skip it.

 

[MadVillainy]

I think this movie failed to do what recent movies like jurassic world and the force awakens did. Do a soft reboot and tredge old territory with interesting new characters. The effects were top notch and the action was solid but everything else was boring and flat.

The characters were flat that's the main thing for me.

I was rewatching the first one today and there are so many good, funny or interesting characters in that one.

Really IDR comes off as a Liam Hemsworth vehicle. He's the only one young or old that gets a lot to do. I didn't think he was bad in this at all, but you can't have one character be interesting in a whole movie.
There were characters with funny lines but everything was on Hemsworth. And then they did the Maverick from Top Gun archetype which really just has gotten to annoy me at this point.

So, I trust you gentlemen more than the critics, as a dumb fun popcorn film does this film work? Is it worth seeing in theater or just wait to rent it?

I didn't mind seeing it in theaters but yeah you can just wait for it to pop up on HBO, Netflix, or Redbox

 

[Octoberist]

Hemsworth should've been eliminated and merge his arc with Will Smith's son, Dylan. Dylan didn't have any arc nor did he get with the girl. That's why he was so boring: he had nothing to do.

It feels like a step back doesn it from ID4? That movie wasn't afraid to have Smith as the lead and didn't require a blond dude to be the placeholder.

 

[MadVillainy]

Hemsworth should've been eliminated and merge his arc with Will Smith's son, Dylan. Dylan didn't have any arc nor did he get with the girl. That's why he was so boring: he had nothing to do.

It feels like a step back doesn it from ID4? That movie wasn't afraid to have Smith as the lead and didn't require a blond dude to be the placeholder.

Exactly Dylan was useless. In fact it's really weird that they have the offspring of two of the bigger original characters and they're regulated to the side in favor of generic Jerry Liam Hemsworth. And again, I thought Hemsworth gave a fine performance. The way it was written was just lame to me.

Shouldve made the main characters Dylan and the President's daughter. Platanoic partnership. HAve Dylan be funny but not cocky or reckless. And maybe his arc is trying to live up to his father's name.

Or just ignore the children. I think it's better if you just use new characters instead of making everyone "so and so's kid"

 

[TheDreamMaster]

So, I trust you gentlemen more than the critics, as a dumb fun popcorn film does this film work? Is it worth seeing in theater or just wait to rent it?

6/10 for me. Slightly above average, but pretty slow and not nearly as fun as the original. It gets a bit higher for me for the ground combat scenes with actual alien soldiers.

 

[Leenie]

So, I trust you gentlemen more than the critics, as a dumb fun popcorn film does this film work? Is it worth seeing in theater or just wait to rent it?

Rent it.

 

[Thundarr]

Just saw this last Tuesday (Cheap Night). While it wasn't horrible, it wasn't great either. Pretty much just "meh".

 

[Alien Anal]

I think this film just left me wanting to see a new great alien invasion film.

 

[X-Ray]

Exactly Dylan was useless. In fact it's really weird that they have the offspring of two of the bigger original characters and they're regulated to the side in favor of generic Jerry Liam Hemsworth. And again, I thought Hemsworth gave a fine performance. The way it was written was just lame to me.

Shouldve made the main characters Dylan and the President's daughter. Platanoic partnership. HAve Dylan be funny but not cocky or reckless. And maybe his arc is trying to live up to his father's name.

Or just ignore the children. I think it's better if you just use new characters instead of making everyone "so and so's kid"

This. Besides, Dylan wasn't Hiller's biological son. Emmerich seemed to have forgotten that since he pretty much tried to make him mini Hiller minus being funny.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

When are studios going to get the message that we have no interest in Liam Hemmsworth?

 

[Loki882]

To be perfectly honest, I think that it'd have made more sense, and been far cooler, if Patricia Whitmore were the main hero. There's a more direct connection to the events of the first movie, she has plenty of motivation (seeing her mother die and her dad save the day due to being an ex-fighter pilot), and it'd have made their interactions all the more interesting. Not to mention that Maika is a really good actress, so she could have pulled it off I think.

Or heck, make Patricia and Dylan the co-leads and have that dynamic be a big part of the movie (the children of the two big hero pilots of the first war). That could have also worked.

But no, instead we got Not Thor instead. And making Will Smith's adoptive son a side character in favor of Baby Thor (as they also did with Patricia) in favor of this guy, was a big mistake, I agree with that as well.

Oh and PS, give Rain more to do than just be the object of the "wacky best friend's" lust obsession.

 

[dark_b]

I think reason the Jurassic World worked so well for audiences is that it actually made you felt like you were watching Jurassic Park again. The aesthetic and style were similar. It hit the nostalgia notes of the first one better than the lesser perceived sequels. It also had more fun and appealing characters in it than the sequels did.

It's far from a perfect movie, but it was better made than a film like Resurgence was.

I maintain that ID4 was a classic, groundbreaking movie of its era. Resurgence I think wanted to play the Jurassic World role, but it simply couldn't.

you forgot dinosaurs. every year we get alien attack movies or movies with similar action scenes. dinosaurs stand out in summer.

 

[hopeless]

Spoiler

Would it have hurt them to just ignore the Mars base entirely?

They could use it in another linked in book or comic series showing the movie from their point of view instead it basically wiped them all out even though there wasn't anything they could do to thwart the actual attack on Earth?!

Did they bother building warships to help defend the planet or show how they managed to even build a base on one of Saturn's moons even if it was pretty much wiped out off screen?

 

[Supernova]

So, I trust you gentlemen more than the critics, as a dumb fun popcorn film does this film work? Is it worth seeing in theater or just wait to rent it?

Id say a matinee or $6 tuesday depending on where You live. Definitely not a horrible experience just dont expect fun characters like the original.