The Dark Knight Intensity of Fight sequences in TDK!

[lujho]

D.P. didn't suggest more training - just that we see what he can do with the training he already has.

I agree - we need to get a better/clearer look at all the cool things Batman can do. It basically comes back down to the editing and camera work.

 

[bunk]

I don't think he meant Bats needed more training, only that he could show more of the ninja training he already learned. He could be using the smoke bombs, clinging unseen to walls and ceilings ect.

 

[Leon the Professional]

I just want to see brutal efficiency in his fighting, not any fancy moves. Begins got it pretty good, but he did do a couple of high kicks which I didn't like. Only kicks below waist level please.

Also, there aren't going to be any enemies in the sequel that are highly skilled at martial arts like Ra's and his ninjas, so there probably won't be any opportunity for Batman to have elaborately choreographed battles like in Begins. It'll probably be just more of how he rapidly took out Falcone's and Crane's thugs, which is how it should be.

Batman violently slamming that peeing thug's face into the bathroom mirror was better than any martial arts move he did.

 

[Stringer]

I want to see some Casino Royale and Blade style fighting

 

[superkong 500]

I just want to see brutal efficiency in his fighting, not any fancy moves. Begins got it pretty good, but he did do a couple of high kicks which I didn't like. Only kicks below waist level please.

Also, there aren't going to be any enemies in the sequel that are highly skilled at martial arts like Ra's and his ninjas, so there probably won't be any opportunity for Batman to have elaborately choreographed battles like in Begins. It'll probably be just more of how he rapidly took out Falcone's and Crane's thugs, which is how it should be.

Batman violently slamming that peeing thug's face into the bathroom mirror was better than any martial arts move he did.

Why didn't you liked high kicks they looked great they're kinda a trademark of batman's he looks cool while doing it,and it demonstrates his flexibility and is completely realistic. It can be brutal at the same time. This is not real life batman most display a level of brutality but also grace in his moves it doesn't have to look overchoreographed. I think what nolan tried to do didn't really worked that well, in theory it sounds great but how good a fight can be when you can't see it. As simple as that and yes he should show more of his ninja skills not just appear and disappear but actually show how agile he and the tactics he knows that's all.

and it doesn't matter at all that he doesn't fight any skilled fighters in TDK he still can showcase his skills specially when fighting with multiple oponents at the same time which happens often.

 

[IamtheBatman]

I want to see brutality something like Batman breaking a thug or he Jokers or nose by headbutting them in the nose in the cowl. Viciousness by living the thugs a bloody mess. Something like in regards in the shirt I have.

 

[Bond]

^ He headbutted Falcone right before he said, "I'm Batman."

 

[IamtheBatman]

But, did he break his nose I didn't see and I didn't see his nose broken when he chained up.

 

[Leon the Professional]

Why didn't you liked high kicks they looked great they're kinda a trademark of batman's he looks cool while doing it,and it demonstrates his flexibility and is completely realistic. It can be brutal at the same time. This is not real life batman most display a level of brutality but also grace in his moves it doesn't have to look overchoreographed. I think what nolan tried to do didn't really worked that well, in theory it sounds great but how good a fight can be when you can't see it. As simple as that and yes he should show more of his ninja skills not just appear and disappear but actually show how agile he and the tactics he knows that's all.

and it doesn't matter at all that he doesn't fight any skilled fighters in TDK he still can showcase his skills specially when fighting with multiple oponents at the same time which happens often.

High kicks are impractical fighting maneuvers, and Batman should be all about efficiency in fighting. They make look cool, but they leave you off balance and needlessly vulnerable to low counter-attacks. They accomplish nothing that a good strike with the fist or palm can't accomplish. Low kicks up to but not above waist level, on the other hand, can be very effective without leaving you vulnerable.

I also don't see how high kicks are a trademark of Batman in any way??

 

[superkong 500]

High kicks are impractical fighting maneuvers, and Batman should be all about efficiency in fighting. They make look cool, but they leave you off balance and needlessly vulnerable to low counter-attacks. They accomplish nothing that a good strike with the fist or palm can't accomplish. Low kicks up to but not above waist level, on the other hand, can be very effective without leaving you vulnerable.

I also don't see how high kicks are a trademark of Batman in any way??

Well they're not technicaly but for me they are in the movies and even in the comics one of the coolest things he does when fighting . its more a matter of aestetics if you know what I mean.

Anyway high kicks don't nescessarily leave you off balance if you hit your opponent with efficiency it works and is as practical as a punch or an elbow. If you hit someone with a kick higher than the waist they won't have time to hit you in that same moment(you have the reach advantage of the leg that is of course if you hit them fast and hard enough, if not there's no reason to even try in the first place), by the time they come back you'll have both your feet on the ground.

And remember this is afterall a movie and an iconic superhero, it most have a blend of realism but also cinematic spectacle if you will. Everything doesn't have to be exactly as in real life.

 

[jaienviedechier]

There should be quick and close shots in the fight sequences like in BB. But this time, CLOSER shots and QUICKER too. That'd be cool.

 

[hey yo its sean]

High kicks are impractical fighting maneuvers

Tell that to Mirko Cro-Cop or anyone that practices Kyokushin or Muay Thai.

 

[Steelsheen]

Nolan needs to take action direction from Martin Campbell (Casino Royale). WIDE, CLEAR shots please.....no quick, close shots like in Batman Begins. the fight scenes were one of my only gripes about the movie...

co-signed

 

[dark_b]

sorry but we had like 1000 threads about this. should i now writte the same stuff ?

hehe just joking

 

[D.P.]

I want to see brutality something like Batman breaking a thug or he Jokers or nose by headbutting them in the nose in the cowl. Viciousness by living the thugs a bloody mess. Something like in regards in the shirt I have.

I've been planning on gettin this shirt for a while...How's the quality?

And no, He doesn't need more training...Like luhjo said, I'd just like to see it applied...

Remember when he was balancing on the tree trunks while getting beat w/ canes? Show me that agility in an actual Batman setting.

 

[lujho]

I've been planning on gettin this shirt for a while...How's the quality?

And no, He doesn't need more training...Like luhjo said, I'd just like to see it applied...

Remember when he was balancing on the tree trunks while getting beat w/ canes? Show me that agility in an actual Batman setting.

Give me some frigging rooftop running action. For a man who spends his time running across Gotham's rooftops, we got to see very little of that. The one ocurrance was pre-Batman.

 

[lujho]

I want to see brutality something like Batman breaking a thug or he Jokers or nose by headbutting them in the nose in the cowl. Viciousness by living the thugs a bloody mess. Something like in regards in the shirt I have.

That's an awesome T shirt. I'm a sucker for anything that use black, white and red - it's like some magic sure-fire design trick that makes anything look cool.

I'm sold. Actually, I'm not too keen on Batman being right up there in the armpit, but I think I'll get one anyway.

 

[regwec]

Wide and clear is entirely against what Nolan was going for though. I loved that Batman comes out of nowhere and dispatches everyone before anything can develop. I don't want Batman in full view very often. Just needs to slow down the cuts a little.

Yes, that sounds about right. Things can't be perfect if I had never registered the frames of Batman kicking Ra's henchman in their heads until they had been posted here as still images. The style of combat is fine, but we need to see it. I wouldn't mind one or two wide shots, either. They don't need to form the bread and butter of the films' treatment of fights, but everyone likes a bit of comic-booky payoff.

 

[66 Face]

Yes, that sounds about right. Things can't be perfect if I had never registered the frames of Batman kicking Ra's henchman in their heads until they had been posted here as still images. The style of combat is fine, but we need to see it. I wouldn't mind one or two wide shots, either. They don't need to form the bread and butter of the films' treatment of fights, but everyone likes a bit of comic-booky payoff.

I'm kind of hoping for an Oldboy scene. Another thing is that while I wouldn't mind a full out fight scene, I really don't want to see everything Batman does. There should be some sort of mystique about him.

One thing that I'm really hoping for is a wild Batman/ Joker rooftop chase. No cars involved please.

 

[CamExam]

Hey guys Spider-Man 3 was a big dissapointment so I decided to come here and hang out and wait for TDK. Is there anything new about TDK

 

[The Only Woj]

Tell that to Mirko Cro-Cop or anyone that practices Kyokushin or Muay Thai.

especially since he got knocked out cold by a kick to the side of the head in his last fight.

 

[hey yo its sean]

Boy what an upset that was. Fluke, I tell ya. But yeah - high kicks aren't always impractical.

 

[breyfogle_rules]

Okay no he's not much of a physical threat but he always puts in a good scrap. He laughs off an awesome beating and he usually gets at least one vicious move in. I'd like to see this.

Exactly

 

[nightwing07]

lets see bats actually fight unlike the scene in the narrows
i mean how do 12 or so men get thrashed in 10 seconds!

 

[breyfogle_rules]

Just a reminder.
This movie will undoubtedly be PG-13.

Nolan's going to need a little slack.