Arach Knight
Your Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Girl
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I already said I wouldn't readdress the issue because my point stands well reasoned and thus needs no further defense against a repetition of identical opposing claims. However, I will briefly renege on my assertion to point out that you offer a rebuttal that is based upon the erroneous use of a generalities. You contend that the "universally held position" is that Peter Parker is Spider-Man. This is fallacious on two counts.
1) You have no modicum of power to confirm such a baseless claim about the universal acceptance of any particular position. Such a quantity is unknowable to an ordinary individual. One may only best offer an inference based on deductive or inductive reasoning. However, to contend that anything is universally accepted is naive at best, and intellectually weak at worst.
2). If one were to ask a person in Japan who Spider-Man is, the resultant answers would likely be Takuya Yamashiro or Yu Komori: two separate incarnations of Spider-Man in Japanese pop culture. The multiplicity of Spider-Man representations in Japan is alone sufficient to dismantle the gross assumption of a "universal" position. That Japan itself has TWO versions of Spider-Man that are distinct from the original version of the character, speaks volumes to the overall failing of your argument. Aside from nullifying your flaccid reasoning, my point is further demonstrated by the fact that the Japanese renditions of Spider-Man were distinct for their generations (note, the Yu Kamori version of Spider-Man appeared in 1970, where as the Takuya Yamashiro version appeared eight years later in 1978, a sufficient gap of time for children who grew up reading Yu Kamori to have a different idea of Spider-Man than those who were growing up with Takuya Yamashiro).
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So again, you can't reasonably assert that there is a definitive version of Spider-Man. The character exists in varied, but equally valid forms that have distinct meaning for different generations (and cultures).
One more counter point
1) I already demonstrated, with an actual source and not my anecdotal position, that John Stewart, from a pop culture perspective, was the more commonly recognized Green Lantern at the time that Warner Bros. was releasing the Green Lantern film. It is true that Hal has recently been featured in his own cartoon. As a result of said cartoon, it is likely that a new generation will grow up with Hal as their Green Lantern, but again, all you did was prove my point.
The Justice League animated series was on the air a decade ago. Meaning that kids who watched that show are now in their late teens or full grown adults. The kids who watched the recent Green Lantern cartoon, will likely have been too young or not yet born back when Justice League was on the air. Consequently, that means that the rendition of Green Lantern that was relevant for that generation, will not be relevant for this generation. Thank you for further proving my point and modeling the exact paradigm shift I have previously described.
With that, I now withdraw from further address to you on the topic, as it would be fruitless and would derail the thread. My point is made, clearly and with evidence. Your weak argument only enforced the validity of my own argument. There is little else to discuss. So let the thread return to a discussion about the MCU Spider-Man.
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