The Dark Knight Is Nolan abusing his reputation?

[explode7]

Yeah I know that becuase they already showed that episode in the past. Really wanted Bale to win though. Oh well. They should do a Routh Vs Tobey.

 

[Loki225]

I trust Nolan completely for one main reason... Cillian Murphy. I was a fan of Murphy before Batman Begins mainly because of 28 Days Later, but he was never someone that I saw as being capable of being a Batman villian... especially the Scarecrow. I like the idea of Christopher Eccleston but not Murphy. In the end Nolan couldn't of made a better decision because Cillian Murphy's performance was one of my favorite performances in a film where I pretty much loved everyone. He was without a doubt my favorite Batman villian to ever grace the screen. Nolan saw something in him as I'm sure he's seen something in Ledger. Because of that I have no fears. I think he'll be great. Besides... this isn't going to be Nicholson. I have a feeling ( or atleast I'm truly hoping ) that we'll be seeing a much darker version of the Joker and that is something I'm very much looking forward to.

 

[Raiden]

Nolan may check to see how the fans react to his casting choices, but by no means he should be slave to their opinions. BB was his vision, not the fans', and once a movie get made by a committee it'll fell apart, due to the lack of common vision (and we all know how fickle fans are, esp. comic fans).

If Nolan likes Ledger (who is an exceptional actor), then the fans should give him a chance. It's not the same as Nolan casting Katie Holmes as Rachel, and even then the fans seemed to gel with the decision eventually.

 

[Dark Knight]

Nolan may check to see how the fans react to his casting choices, but by no means he should be slave to their opinions. BB was his vision, not the fans', and once a movie get made by a committee it'll fell apart, due to the lack of common vision (and we all know how fickle fans are, esp. comic fans).

Exactly!


If Nolan likes Ledger (who is an exceptional actor), then the fans should give him a chance. It's not the same as Nolan casting Katie Holmes as Rachel, and even then the fans seemed to gel with the decision eventually.

 

[Bruce Logan]

Does anybody think that the casting of Bale wasn't just because so many fans wanted it but because for once in a blue moon, the fans choice and the director's choice just happened to be the same. I mean, how many of the other roles really went to the actors the majority of the fans wanted? I certainly don't recall tons of threads devoted to Gary Oldman as the Joker.

 

[Katsuro]

Does anybody think that the casting of Bale wasn't just because so many fans wanted it but because for once in a blue moon, the fans choice and the director's choice just happened to be the same. I mean, how many of the other roles really went to the actors the majority of the fans wanted? I certainly don't recall tons of threads devoted to Gary Oldman as the Joker.

I take it you mean Gordon. Cuz Gary Oldman as Joker is just plain craziness!

 

[Franklin Richards]

What I find amusing is that I can replace the word "Alba" for the word "Ledger" and this looks exactly like the threads over in the FF forums. The same threads that alot of Batfans were ridiculing a couple of years ago.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, he still had a good point....even though he kinda fumbled it.

Nobody saw Oldman coming, but hey....he ****ing pwned the role. So....

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

What I find amusing is that I can replace the word "Alba" for the word "Ledger" and this looks exactly like the threads over in the FF forums. The same threads that alot of Batfans were ridiculing a couple of years ago.

That's slightly different, I would think.......

 

[Franklin Richards]

Not until we see Ledger portray Joker it's not.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, has Alba ever been up for an oscar?

And....was her face be hidden under make up and prosetetics?

Plus, there was heat like this for Cillian Murphy, Ken Watanabe, Gary Oldman, Michael Caine.

So......no, I don't really think it is much like the Alba thing.

 

[Octoberist]

"abusing" isn't the word to use. In fact, it's quite overly dramatic. "Comic Book Guy" from the Simpson quite of dramatic.

Hell, is Nolan a slave to the fans? Let the man do his thing, for God's sakes.

 

[Katsuro]

What I find amusing is that I can replace the word "Alba" for the word "Ledger" and this looks exactly like the threads over in the FF forums. The same threads that alot of Batfans were ridiculing a couple of years ago.

Pshh, I WISH Jessica Alba was in a homosexual cowboy movie!

 

[Franklin Richards]

It's exactly like the Alba thing. Heath Ledger is a good actor. I admit. But he's a bit of a robot. Exactly the wrong thing you need for the Joker. Alba was ridiculed for being a body and not right for the part.

Everyone wanted McAdams or Theron and got Alba. Everyone wanted Bettany or Hulme and got something they were NOT expecting. An android.

And when some posters over at the FF Boards thought they would give Alba a chance, they were ridiculed by alot of Batfans for being "unfaithful" to the source material. Now I see Batfans defending the unlikely choice of Ledger.

I think the comparison holds some weight.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

lol....yeah, I think that would have won the oscar. I mean, ****....ALba....and...well...doesn't really matter who the other girl is, but if she's hot all the better....

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

It's exactly like the Alba thing. Heath Ledger is a good actor. I admit. But he's a bit of a robot. Exactly the wrong thing you need for the Joker. Alba was ridiculed for being a body and not right for the part.

Everyone wanted McAdams or Theron and got Alba. Everyone wanted Bettany or Hulme and got something they were NOT expecting. An android.

And when some posters over at the FF Boards thought they would give Alba a chance, they were ridiculed by alot of Batfans for being "unfaithful" to the source material. Now I see Batfans defending the unlikely choice of Ledger.

I think the comparison holds some weight.

Android?

Whoa.....maybe you should hit the Trek forums or something......

I really don't think the comparisons hold much weight, b/c for one....ALL of the casts for Batman Begins were unlikely. Except for Bale, who....c'mon...the man is god.

And....nobody's being ridiculed here. LOTS of fans are accepting it b/c it's a good cast, and....we worship the ground Nolan walks on.

And, the oscar thing again...it counts for something.

 

[Franklin Richards]

You're saying that Oldman is an unlikey casting choice?

Caine?
Freeman?
Neeson?

Dude, wake up!

As for The Oscar thing. I got two words.

Marisa Tomei

 

[Galactical]

my cousin thinks He'd make a good Robin.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well, not all.

Caine, got heat for not being Gough. Oldman got heat b/c he was playing a good guy. Neeson got heat b/c he'd played the "teacher" role before, Murphy got heat for not being 6'8 and being too "pretty".

Yes....those casts got heat. More than people remember. So....uh....dude, wake up on that.

Marisa Tomei

****ing hot, son. I'd hit that in a milisecond....

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

my cousin thinks He'd make a good Robin.

You mean Nightwing, don't you. He's too old to play Robin......

 

[Franklin Richards]

I can see that the Rose Colored Glasses you wear have blinded you to the truth. So much that you are rewriting history.

Go to the FF Forums and read some of those responses. Then you'll know what "heat" really is. A few smarmy remarks does not add up to heat. The Batfans were sucking Nolans dick from day one. As soon as everyone found out about Bale. I think your revisionist ideas are completely exagerated.

 

[BatJeff7786]

With so much talk about Bettany and Hulme, how could you NOT expect them to cast someone else? If people talk too much about one person it always seems like the opposite is chosen, which is what happened

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I'm not saying the heat is as bad as over at the "warzone" FF boards. Infact, I'm saying what's going on here was NOTHING alike.

But, I am saying that the heat Ledger is getting is about the same we've seen before, here on THE BAT BOARDS. That's all.

And, yeah....I think we've got reason to suck on him, I mean...he cast Bale. That earned him like 100,000,000 points right off the bat. Genuis. Plus, he's a really good director.

But, don't kid yourself dude.....not every move Nolan made for BB was welcomed with magically open arms as you imagine.

This a'int the FF boards......that's all I'm saying. So, the cuthroat attitude just isn't as you describe.

 

[Franklin Richards]

Admittedly most of what I see is the business end of the gun when it comes to Batfans. But my original argument stands.

For the apologists who are saying give Ledger a chance. It sounds alot like what a few of us were trying to say when Alba was cast.

It just sounds funny coming from the Batfans is all I'm saying. Especially since they would string me and some others up for saying the same thing in the past.

I'm just keeping an eye out. It amuses me.

No hard feelings. But I will be hiding in the corner and laughing. Heh.

 

[xwolverine2]

how EXACTLY do you abuse your OWN reputation?