Is the hate on Barry Bonds racially motivated?

[Equint77]

think about it... if the juiceman 2 does all that.. imagine how tasty those steroid pills would taste after a good juicing.

 

[Darthphere]

No doubt he juiced. Half of baseball juiced in the 90s.

Thing is, it wasnt a banned substance in baseball at the time, ironically enough it was still illegal.

 

[y2jversion1]

I didn't get my information from the media, but watching my nephew on his couch.

25,000 posts!!!!

Sorry to say, but your nephew was most likely a ****** who didn't know WTF he was doing. Just like the guys who abuse pain-killers, you abuse steroids - you're ****ed. Those are the folks in the news pointing to the big-bad evil 'roids instead of pointing at themselves for not knowing WTF they were doing.

 

[Darthphere]

I didn't get my information from the media, but watching my nephew on his couch.

25,000 posts!!!!

Before or after he kicked your ass?

 

[Addendum]

First off during the whole Sosa/McGuire home run showdown. Steroids weren't being openly discussed. It was only after that, Giambi and Canseco that the spotlight is now on Bonds.

And McGwire retired about 5 years ago.

Sosa has dropped off the planet since leaving Chicago. Hell, he's still listed as a free-agent since his agent won't put him on the retirement list, even though he's not going to play anywhere.

Giambi has apologized for his actions, so I'm guessing all is forgiven.

With Canseco, well he's a retired player. However, his book essentially started the tougher look at steroids by baseball, although having their ass handed to them by Congress helped out as well.

With Bonds, there is some convincing evidence that supports the allegations of his taking steroids, although his grand jury testimony was leaked.

I forget the name of the sportswriter, but he was on ESPN's show "Outside the Lines" this past Sunday, which raised this very topic. He essentially said that Barry has never been a "disenfranchised black man". And he's right. His father was an All-Star ballplayer, his godfather is Willie Mays, and he can claim Reggie Jackson as a cousin.

And his birthtown of Riverside, California and the town where he lived and went went to school while pops played for the Giants was San Mateo, California. Neither of which are ghettos by any means.

 

[Addendum]

No doubt he juiced. Half of baseball juiced in the 90s.

Any evidence for that or just some number you grabbed out of the air during an emotional rant?

I can name many players that didn't juice at all during the "steroids era".

 

[War Lord]

Before or after he kicked your ass?

during.

He's very talented in his own way.

 

[reggiebar]

Any evidence for that or just some number you grabbed out of the air during an emotional rant?

I can name many players that didn't juice at all during the "steroids era".

hate on Canseco all anyone wants, but I actually believe him when he states the above.

BTW, for every batter that you can name that didn't juice, I can name onme that did. Look at the stats - it is that easy. I have been watching baseball since 1977 when I was 5 and the 90s was so full of steroids it is silly.

Brady Anderson, yeah, Brady F'n Anderson hit 50 home runs one year....

Please, baseball was steroid crazy in the 90s and early 00s

 

[Addendum]

I don't hate Canseco. He was never one of my favorite players because HE DIDN'T PLAY FOR MY TEAM. I'm that fickle.

Brady Anderson? I had to look him up on baseball-reference.com because I totally forgot who he was, or played for.

Some players may have juiced. Some didn't. I don't believe it's a certain amount, no matter what a former ballplayer says in a book.

 

[Spidey-Bat]

The hate has more to do with:
Taking steroids
Breaking Ruth's record (People love Ruth)
Being an *******.

 

[Admiral_N8]

If people really think most of the hate is racially motivated they obviously listen and love Rev Jackson and Al Sharpton way too much.

People hate him because hes a jerk, a liar, and a cheater.

 

[blind_fury]

It's almost always easier to hate someone of another race. Unless you're a spineless traitor!

 

[Red]

No-People just dont like him because hes a jerk

 

[reggiebar]

I don't hate Canseco. He was never one of my favorite players because HE DIDN'T PLAY FOR MY TEAM. I'm that fickle.

Brady Anderson? I had to look him up on baseball-reference.com because I totally forgot who he was, or played for.

Some players may have juiced. Some didn't. I don't believe it's a certain amount, no matter what a former ballplayer says in a book.

If you had to look up who Brady Anderson was, I can not even talk baseballl with you, because you clearly do not have that much knowledge of the game.

Honestly, as an old head baseball fan (I went to my first game at Yankee Stadium in the 77 Playoffs when I was 5) there is no doubt that Canseco is telling the truth about just how many people used roids during the 90s and into the 00s - no doubt.

 

[terry78]

Though it is easy to slip into "damn, I hate that black/white/mexican/chinese guy" when arguing with someone of another race if all you really hate is the person, as that's the first thing that comes to mind is appearance when you're looking to insult someone.

 

[Tangled Web]

Well, he is hated because he is an ass and because he is a cheater. But, I have to think, how come no one hounded Mcguire?

 

[Addendum]

If you had to look up who Brady Anderson was, I can not even talk baseballl with you, because you clearly do not have that much knowledge of the game.

Honestly, as an old head baseball fan (I went to my first game at Yankee Stadium in the 77 Playoffs when I was 5) there is no doubt that Canseco is telling the truth about just how many people used roids during the 90s and into the 00s - no doubt.

It's because I haven't heard of Brady Anderson in a few years. Therefore I had to look him up since he slipped from my mind.

I'm not Keith Olbermann, a walking encyclopedia of baseball knowledge, who can name the third base coaches for every major league team from 1965-1974 in alphabetical order.

I enjoy watching baseball. I don't enjoy reading the back of baseball cards. If that means someone on the internet can't talk baseball with me, oh well

Well, he is hated because he is an ass and because he is a cheater. But, I have to think, how come no one hounded Mcguire?

Andro was a legal substance in baseball at the time McGwire took it

 

[Darthphere]

Well, he is hated because he is an ass and because he is a cheater. But, I have to think, how come no one hounded Mcguire?

Because he was a nice guy.

 

[terry78]

The lesson is, as long as you're a nice guy, you can do illegal things.

 

[Tangled Web]

The lesson is, as long as you're a nice guy, you can do illegal things.

True, and it helps being a White American.

 

[Darthphere]

The lesson is, as long as you're a nice guy, you can do illegal things.

Mark never tested positve for any steroids while Bonds has been involved in the whole BALCO thing.

 

[Zilleraut #66]

No. He's a pretty well known d*ck on his own.

 

[stryfe]

Hes a *****e.

 

[ScottyBBadd]

Barry Bonds is the reason people hate Barry Bonds.

 

[Admiral_N8]

Well he tied Babe Ruth now.