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Is the warzone going direct to DVD??

There was nothing wrong with the fight scenes in Dark Knight.

I don't think it will be direct to video. However. Such a thing would be a way to maybe cut theatrical distribution losses with the movie. Go straight to DVD and focus on making all the money there. I mean there is money in the direct to DVD market.

What's the thing with Lexi and her husband? Is that a true story?

I honestly think Lionsgate didn't want to do this movie. I mean they've had years and years to do it, but were only getting around to it like 4 years after the last one. They were not eager to make this into a franchise.

Then it lost two of its biggest fans Jane and Hensleigh. I mean they didn't do the greatest job with the first movie. But Jane especially was passionate about the material and serious about doing more with this character. Now I mean, not to say that whatever they could've been done would be better with this.

But guys the reality is this, this movie basically has all the telltale signs of being a Hollywood debacle. There's no way around it.
 
Lions Gate were gonna lose the rights I think around Jan./Feb. of this year. I think they just wanted to get something cheap out there so they could retain the rights regardless of script. I mean they turned down Walter ****ing Hill for Lexi Alexander.
 
Lions Gate were gonna lose the rights I think around Jan./Feb. of this year. I think they just wanted to get something cheap out there so they could retain the rights regardless of script. I mean they turned down Walter ****ing Hill for Lexi Alexander.
Should we give Lexi a chance before we judge her.And a small buget don't mean bad film,I mean look at Evil Dead,A Better Tomorrow 1 & 2,The Terminator,The Killer,HardBoild,Mean Streets,TaxiDriver,MadMax,Halloween,Saw,Death Wish,DirtyHarry,El Mariachi,Desperado,The Hills Have Eyes(1977),Jaws,The Texas Chain Saw Massacre,Alien,Escape From NewYork,Assault On Precinct 13 ect.And half the movies I mention was first time directors or they was working on their second film.Walter Hill is the man,but that dosent mean that Lexi can't shine.:word:This Chick is going to blow up one day very soon:)
 
^ You name movies that came from a time when creativity existed in Hollywood. Different ballgame these days.
 
^ You name movies that came from a time when creativity existed in Hollywood. Different ballgame these days.

I know.But I have faith in Lexi,she has so much passion for the Punisher.And I think everything else we are hearing is BS.Her and Ray became real good buddy while making the film.Now he what to do a part 2 about the slaver story without her?I smell fish:)
 
I know.But I have faith in Lexi,she has so much passion for the Punisher.And I think everything else we are hearing is BS.Her and Ray became real good buddy while making the film.Now he what to do a part 2 about the slaver story without her?I smell fish:)

Mark Steven Johnson had lots of passion for Daredevil and Ghost Rider.

I just don't think she was a good choice for director.
 
Mark Steven Johnson had lots of passion for Daredevil and Ghost Rider.

I just don't think she was a good choice for director.
No he didn't.He turn two hardcore characters into pg13 suck fest.I think Lexi got more balls then Mark and judging by that red band trailer she does.
 
No he didn't.He turn two hardcore characters into pg13 suck fest.I think Lexi got more balls then Mark and judging by that red band trailer she does.


lol
have you even seen his interviews?
all he talks about is how much work he puts into his movies so they can get made. he tried to bring daredevil too the screen like 2 times and failed, but kept trying.
imo, THAT'S passion.
 
Eh whatever. The movies were still rubbish.

I'm disappointed that Lexi Alexander is getting such a bad rap for this flick when she did a strong job of her first feature, Green Street Hooligans, which was a very good movie and it got top honors at SXSW. She's also an Academy Award nominee.

The problem is that Lexi Alexander was not ready for what she was going to be put through for this movie.

It's hard to say give Lexi a chance though when it looks like she's been sidelined at this point. Will the movie that gets released even truly be her movie?
 
To each their own, I thought Green Street Hooligans was mediocre that had some bad performances.
 
To each their own, I thought Green Street Hooligans was mediocre that had some bad performances.

I agree...I really wanted to like Green St. But yeah...definitely a mediocre movie with s**t acting. Though some of the fight scenes worked. People have to calm down about Lexi being a great director dammit
 
Man Grundy for a person who doesn't seem to like this movie you're all over the board.....just kind of weird.
 
I'm a fan of the character. If I wasn't I wouldn't be here.
 
lol
have you even seen his interviews?
all he talks about is how much work he puts into his movies so they can get made. he tried to bring daredevil too the screen like 2 times and failed, but kept trying.
imo, THAT'S passion.
I know he just suck even when he try and don't forget about Uwe Bool.He has passion for his movies too,but he still suck.That doesn't mean that Lexi will be a hack too:ss::unishr::bow:
 
That's kinda the point, you seem to think because she had passion that the movie couldn't be crap.

Mark Steven Johnson and the good Dr. Boll both have passion for films and have made crap. That's kinda the jist of it, passion does not = good movie all the time.
 
well I agree. After this, I don't trust anything Marvel says anymore. So the next big film I hear about, if 'passion' is evident in the tone I'll know then and there that it's a bad move. If Marvel can have a MAX line why can't they have a MAX film studio?
 
That's kinda the point, you seem to think because she had passion that the movie couldn't be crap.

Mark Steven Johnson and the good Dr. Boll both have passion for films and have made crap. That's kinda the jist of it, passion does not = good movie all the time.
I have a good feeling about this movie:)Nobody had(except me)faith in Rambo 4 and we see how that turn out:)Grundy you are a fan of The Punisher just like me.And right now he need our support:word::unishr: plus what if this small film turn out to be the one.That one Punisher movie that we been waiting for.
 
The small film that would turn out to be the one would be a different film several years later. I kid, I kid...

After reading the script, no way in Hell could this be classified as a Punisher story. At the least a very bad obscure comic title in ther mid 90's written by a writer who has never heard of Punisher. I think (as a Punisher fan also) we deserve better then this crap. If we don't raise our voice enough they may retcon Marvel continuity and change the Punisher we know and love to the one in this movie. I know it's extreme, but I'm sick of the greatest character getting ****ed on by Marvel at every turn. This really angers me. And theres nothing I can do about it. I wish they would take Punisher's name and association off this film, call it the Executioner or something, anything is better then that break dancing table top fight in the beginning of the film. wtf!!?
 
well I agree. After this, I don't trust anything Marvel says anymore. So the next big film I hear about, if 'passion' is evident in the tone I'll know then and there that it's a bad move. If Marvel can have a MAX line why can't they have a MAX film studio?
That would be great:)then they can do Nick Fury,DareDevil,Ghost Rider.And give them a good story line,plus they can make them Rated R:word:PS Do anybody see how miscast Max Payne is:(I think Tom Jane should have been Max.Oh well:csad:it still might be a good movie,I guess we have to wait and see huh.Damn I really loved that game.
 
The small film that would turn out to be the one would be a different film several years later. I kid, I kid...

After reading the script, no way in Hell could this be classified as a Punisher story. At the least a very bad obscure comic title in ther mid 90's written by a writer who has never heard of Punisher. I think (as a Punisher fan also) we deserve better then this crap. If we don't raise our voice enough they may retcon Marvel continuity and change the Punisher we know and love to the one in this movie. I know it's extreme, but I'm sick of the greatest character getting ****ed on by Marvel at every turn. This really angers me. And theres nothing I can do about it. I wish they would take Punisher's name and association off this film, call it the Executioner or something, anything is better then that break dancing table top fight in the beginning of the film. wtf!!?
That's the old script,the two guys who wrote Ironman did the rewrites:)So don't worry,they change alot of things:unishr::marv::daredevil:ghost:
 
That's the old script,the two guys who wrote Ironman did the rewrites:)So don't worry,they change alot of things:unishr::marv::daredevil:ghost:

From the footage shown, not much looks to have been changed. All I can tell is a little bit of dialouge and they made the opening a little less ******ed then what was originally scripted. Oh, and they changed the character of Luke McDonald to Budiansky.
 
S. Grundy,

Have you read the script?

If so how would you rate it?

The small film that would turn out to be the one would be a different film several years later. I kid, I kid...

After reading the script, no way in Hell could this be classified as a Punisher story. At the least a very bad obscure comic title in ther mid 90's written by a writer who has never heard of Punisher. I think (as a Punisher fan also) we deserve better then this crap. If we don't raise our voice enough they may retcon Marvel continuity and change the Punisher we know and love to the one in this movie. I know it's extreme, but I'm sick of the greatest character getting ****ed on by Marvel at every turn. This really angers me. And theres nothing I can do about it. I wish they would take Punisher's name and association off this film, call it the Executioner or something, anything is better then that break dancing table top fight in the beginning of the film. wtf!!?


How would you rate it?
 
From the footage shown, not much looks to have been changed. All I can tell is a little bit of dialouge and they made the opening a little less ******ed then what was originally scripted. Oh, and they changed the character of Luke McDonald to Budiansky.
I know that kinda confused me at first,I was like where's McDonald.Then I find out that Budiansky is McDonald:)But is it true, in that scene when Frank say "this is just the beginning"
He is buring Jigsaw alive?
 

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