Is there too much division in America?

[JLBats]

I'm starting to think SHH stands for Socialist Hero Hype, given the number of you that are on here. Anyway, continue with all your knee-jerk, liberal reactions to my post. Gee, I must be a rascist huh?

Your over-sensitivity only makes me laugh. Keep putting words in my mouth and misinterpreting what I say/taking me out of context. It's what liberals do best, other than trying to steal every penny I have so they can give it to some damn kids for their school lunches. You folks have actually made me decide to vote for McCain now, even though I don't care much for him beyond the war hero thing and was planning on voting for a write in.

Just accept that you're an *******, and that what you said was very dickish

"multi-cultural BS"

You live in a country of immigrants. If you don't like it, start Super Racist Island!, run by Kedrell and totally homogenous racewise, and maybe it'll be a happier and simpler place for KEDRELL, the only person who matters, to live.

By the way, don't pull out that "socialist" label here.

A) because I don't consider it an insult
B) because it doesn't apply and it makes you seem like an oaf to pull it out and fling it like the latest buzzword.

^Hmm, a cogent thought at last. What're the odds on here?

...guh...um...uh...

 

[Nivek]

So you believe Muslims are a lesser, more dangerous people?

Kedrell, just be straight up and answer the question, yes or no. Dont dodge it.

 

[Nivek]

During 9/11, Americans were faking their unity. That's why we were so easily dispersed as a nation afterwards. It was like a giant fake orgasm created by a great tragedy, that we all believed was real. I blame the deep rooted evil that we all refuse to admit that dwells in us all.

Iraq.

That's what I think caused the sharp divide after 9/11 was Americans feeling like they we're used when the case was being made to invade Iraq, and rational people we're being dismissed in having doubts about the intelligence that was being presented. When it went from "we are all Americans" to "Are you a real American" that's when alot of people pulled back.

Referring to it as a "giant fake orgasm" really diminishes what alot of people did for alot of the right reasons. What soiled and spoiled it was people using tragedy, fear, and anger to push a political mandate to invade a Country that had nothing to do with the attack, and turning away from the real fight we never followed through on completion.

 

[BlackLantern]

I think it started at one of those 9/11 benefit concerts when Richard Gere was talking about diplomacy and basically got booed off stage....

 

[The Senator]

I'm starting to think SHH stands for Socialist Hero Hype, given the number of you that are on here. Anyway, continue with all your knee-jerk, liberal reactions to my post. Gee, I must be a rascist huh?

Your over-sensitivity only makes me laugh. Keep putting words in my mouth and misinterpreting what I say/taking me out of context. It's what liberals do best, other than trying to steal every penny I have so they can give it to some damn kids for their school lunches. You folks have actually made me decide to vote for McCain now, even though I don't care much for him beyond the war hero thing and was planning on voting for a write in.

Wow, your life must be incredibly meaningless considering an online message board has so much influence on your life. My suggestion: If you despise us big bad socialists eek, leave the boards. There is a world off the internets.

 

[Nitehawk013]

Multi-cultural BS is a pretty apt and great way to sum it up. I tend to like Teddy Roosevelts words on the subject.

"There in no place in this country for hyphenated-Americans".

"Every immigrant that comes here should be required within 5 years to learn English or leave the country".

"There can be no 50/50 Americanism in this country. There is room for only 100% Americanism, only for those who ARE Americans and nothing else"

"The man who loves other countries as much as his own stands on a level with a man who loves other women as much as he loves his own wife."

And just for good measure..."The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his own country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer".

 

[BlackLantern]

I've always wondered about the resistance of people who came here to learn English....like they are turning their back on their own culture or something by learing English....

 

[JLBats]

"The man who loves other countries as much as his own stands on a level with a man who loves other women as much as he loves his own wife."

And just for good measure..."The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his own country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer".

Anybody who loves a delineated section of land as much as they'd love another person is a moron

I'm sorry. But I've never seen this urge to patriotism as inherently noble, especially now that it's being used to promote boring ass, "comforting" homogeneity.

You're defending an indefensible idea with another indefensible idea that you've been trained to think of as inherently valuable, when really, who gives a **** whether you've pledged allegiance to a plot of earth and the multi-faceted, interpretable, shifting ideals that it stands for?


Patriotism, patriotism, PATRIOTISM!
*you are getting sleepy, stupid and easy to control*

 

[Franklin Richards]

Multi-cultural BS is a pretty apt and great way to sum it up. I tend to like Teddy Roosevelts words on the subject.

"There in no place in this country for hyphenated-Americans".

"Every immigrant that comes here should be required within 5 years to learn English or leave the country".

"There can be no 50/50 Americanism in this country. There is room for only 100% Americanism, only for those who ARE Americans and nothing else"

"The man who loves other countries as much as his own stands on a level with a man who loves other women as much as he loves his own wife."

And just for good measure..."The pacifist is as surely a traitor to his own country and to humanity as is the most brutal wrongdoer".

"So, let us not be blind to our differences–but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to the means by which those differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s future. And we are all mortal."


JFK

 

[Nitehawk013]

Yes patriotism is bad. That is the liberals mantra right?

If only we were lucky enough to live in a day when treason was still punishable by death. If you live here, and yet think patriotism isn't beautiful and proper then you should either get out or be indeed tried for treason. That kind of trash thinking is exactly what is wrong with so much of this country.

 

[Nivek]

"So, let us not be blind to our differences–but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to the means by which those differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s future. And we are all mortal."


JFK

Once again, good responce.

 

[Nitehawk013]

"So, let us not be blind to our differences–but let us also direct attention to our common interests and to the means by which those differences can be resolved. And if we cannot end now our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity. For, in the final analysis, our most basic common link is that we all inhabit this small planet. We all breathe the same air. We all cherish our children’s future. And we are all mortal."


JFK

Well first, Teddy was a better man than JFK.

And second, your little quote doesn't disavow anything my list said. You can recognize the differences in people and still follow the things Teddy said. You can celebrate what we have in common while still saying you must assimilate to the country you belong to.

 

[JLBats]

Yes patriotism is bad. That is the liberals mantra right?

If only we were lucky enough to live in a day when treason was still punishable by death. If you live here, and yet think patriotism isn't beautiful and proper then you should either get out or be indeed tried for treason. That kind of trash thinking is exactly what is wrong with so much of this country.

Yes, and this kind of banishment of alternative ideas and established norms is exactly the kind of thought police ******** they've conditioned you so well into believing that you'll never be able to grow as a person or achieve enlightenment. SwEeT!

I don't live in your country either, and don't really identify with the liberal political movement, so suggesting I oughta be executed for being able to think beyond established prejudices won't work on me.

But nice try!

 

[Nitehawk013]

Super. If you don't live here great. We need more people with some national pride. Not more "educated fools" who find it "enlightening" to always think our own country guilty first.

 

[BlackLantern]

A person questioning the government with a desire to destory the government is treason....a person questioning the government with a desire to make things better is patriotic....We can always be better, we can always do better....

 

[Nivek]

Well first, Teddy was a better man than JFK.

And second, your little quote doesn't disavow anything my list said. You can recognize the differences in people and still follow the things Teddy said. You can celebrate what we have in common while still saying you must assimilate to the country you belong to.

Teddy would Abhor his party now. And we are talking about America @1900 to America 100 years later, a lot has changed, a lot is still the same (Roosevelt had his issues with corporate campaign finance as well).

 

[JLBats]

Super. If you don't live here great. We need more people with some national pride. Not more "educated fools" who find it "enlightening" to always think our own country guilty first.

LOL!

"We need more folk who blindly follow dogma, dang blast it... not you thinkers."

Come ON.

Can you seriously not see how absurd that is? Have you never sat and asked yourself WHY patriotism is this shining, perfect thing to you?

I'll bet you haven't, even. Just because you've had it hammered into your head that it's an ideal you're not allowed to be critical of.

 

[BlackLantern]

I think his point is you have people that are always pointing the finger of blame at the government....ALL THE TIME.....and that seems a bit much at times

 

[The Senator]

Yes patriotism is bad. That is the liberals mantra right?

If only we were lucky enough to live in a day when treason was still punishable by death. If you live here, and yet think patriotism isn't beautiful and proper then you should either get out or be indeed tried for treason. That kind of trash thinking is exactly what is wrong with so much of this country.

Being a Muslim is treason?

 

[BlackLantern]

what if you are a gay Muslim....is that double treason?

 

[JLBats]

I think his point is you have people that are always pointing the finger of blame at the government....ALL THE TIME.....and that seems a bit much at times

But do you not find it interesting that in his own post, he contrasted the educated and enlightened with the patriotic, and somehow still found blind patriotism winning out?

 

[BlackLantern]

I saw that....I just took another read and that it is what I took from it.....

 

[The Senator]

what if you are a gay Muslim....is that double treason?

It's triple treason if you have dark skin.

 

[BlackLantern]

damn....well I am a black man (straight) who prefers white women....so am I trying to change the system from the inside?

 

[The Senator]

damn....well I am a black man (straight) who prefers white women....so am I trying to change the system from the inside?

That multi-cultural BS is unacceptable! Our children deserve to be of an Aryan decent, none of this Melado business! TREASON!!!!1!!1!!!one!!1!