Guardians of the Galaxy James gunn fired!!!

[Limonade]

No is saying think of the children. People are saying Disney is a company that markets mainly towards children, and employing someone who spent thousands of traits making jokes about raping children and women doesn't seem all the intelligent.

In the context of a few recent days, I would agree. But years that went by unnoticed? I mean ONLY to be used against the man at the height of popularity... that's fishy.

That sets a dangerous precedent.

 

[legendkillin]

I like the idea that he was making jokes about raping children while at dinner with Feige, Horn and Iger. It sounds completely accurate.

Made off color jokes he has been in the MCU for like 7 years. You don't think he made some "Offensive jokes" on set or in just everyday conversation out of the workplace with coworkers he was friendly with?






And I use quotations around it offensive because not everyone is offended about jokes. No such things as tone voice in tweets.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

In my opinion, yes and yes. Though the mods are not the discussion of this thread.

Then who represents a company? Everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want here?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

In the context of a few recent days, I would agree. But years that went by unnoticed? I mean ONLY to be used against the man at the height of popularity... that's fishy.

That sets a dangerous precedent.

What is the dangerous precedent? Don't tweet thousands of times about raping children, women or men, joke or not? That doesn't feel dangerous to me. That feels like common sense.

 

[Jaiden Edo]

I don't like the timing. Disney and Feige should have known about this before hiring him.

 

[Kuwolski]

I don't like the timing. Disney and Feige should have known about this before hiring him.

They did. He apologized in 2012 and it wasn't a thing. But in 2018 it's a big thing. What will it be another six years from now...?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Made off color jokes he has been in the MCU for like 7 years. You don't think he made some "Offensive jokes" on set or in just everyday conversation out of the workplace with coworkers he was friendly with?






And I use quotations around it offensive because not everyone is offended about jokes. No such things as tone voice in tweets.

I think if he went around making rape jokes about children and women all over set all the time and he wasn't fired, that is going to get out and other people are going to get fired. The idea that this got to Horn or Iger before today is insane.

 

[daddydivine]

They did. He apologized in 2012 and it wasn't a thing. But in 2018 it's a big thing. What will it be another six years from now...?

Maybe Gunn promised he'd delete those tweets at the time. And yet he kept them for 6 years...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They did. He apologized in 2012 and it wasn't a thing. But in 2018 it's a big thing. What will it be another six years from now...?

Do you know the difference between a blog and twitter, or do you not realize that 2012 apology was for something entirely different? Why do people keep posting this and ignoring that fact?

 

[Zarex]

i feel like feige was overruled/(possibly defending gunn BTS) on this one? since horn is the one making the statement

the man already apologized for this SIX YEARS AGO back in 2012. how long does somebody have to be sorry for?

and disney gets played by political agitators with axes to grind. stupid stupid stupid

I was thinking the same thing. Has Horn ever made a statement regarding a personnel decision at Marvel Studios? I'm concerned that Feige is not entirely ok with this decision. Not a good situation with his contract up next year.

And while Gunn's tweets are certainly reprehensible, by all accounts he's been a solid citizen during his six years at Marvel Studios. Disney is well within its rights to fire someone for offensive writing that occurred prior to his time under their employ. But I don't like it.

 

[pr0xyt0xin]

What is the dangerous precedent? Don't tweet thousands of times about raping children, women or men, joke or not? That doesn't feel dangerous to me. That feels like common sense.

Maybe it would be common sense if he was famous FOR these jokes. But he's not.

And if he wasn't famous for the jokes and wasn't condemned for it, he shouldnt be while famous.

And I'd assume we won't ever get to a point where we attempt to investigate all people on social media who make innappropriate jokes of the respective crimes. That... seems excessive.

So, uh. What is the point of a random uprising of people in the wake of this supposed "New light"

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Maybe it would be common sense if he was famous FOR these jokes. But he's not.

And if he wasn't famous for the jokes and wasn't condemned for it, he shouldnt be while famous.

And I'd assume we won't ever get to a point where we attempt to investigate all people on social media who make innappropriate jokes of the respective crimes. That... seems excessive.

So, uh. What is the point of a random uprising of people in the wake of this supposed "New light"

Wait, it isn't common sense to not make jokes about raping anyone, including children?

 

[legendkillin]

I think if he went around making rape jokes about children and women all over set all the time and he wasn't fired, that is going to get out and other people are going to get fired. The idea that this got to Horn or Iger before today is insane.

Never said he did it all the time...

 

[Limonade]

Then who represents a company? Everyone should be allowed to say whatever they want here?

That all depends on the guidelines set forth and what the person agrees to adhering.

But to fire someone due to a past comment they made BEFORE they were hired?

Is that something you want to be advocating in the workplace?

 

[legendkillin]

Wait, it isn't common sense to not make jokes about raping anyone, including children?

Have you ever been to a comedy show? or even watched a podcast with comedians?



Every single thing is material to a comedian. Not that Gunn was a professional stand up comedian but still.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Never said he did it all the time...

That is the implication. Lets be clear, he wasn't fired for random tasteless jokes. He was fired from Disney for writing thousands of tweets about raping children and women. If this wasn't a clear issue, why did he try and get rid of them once he realize they were going to resurface? Why did he write an apology?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

That all depends on the guidelines set forth and what the person agrees to adhering.

But to fire someone due to a past comment they made BEFORE they were hired?

You think he told them he wrote thousands of tweets about raping children and women and then they hired him?

 

[superman-mos]

I loved Guardians 1,2, and was looking forward to his work with the next phase of the MCU. That being said... the man was in the wrong and he even admits to being in the wrong and accepting Disney’s decision. Yeah it was 10 years ago but it was also like what 10,000 tweets( that right?), tweets about rape, pedophilia, and whatever else. That’s a lot.... like that kind of goes beyond just a bad joke. That’s a whole lot of “jokes” about very specific things. I don’t condemn the man, especially not knowing if it’s just jokes or him playing at it being jokes. If it’s just jokes then ok, but regardless you eventually pay the price for the things you put out in the world. It may be today or 20 years from now but things catch up to you. I’m glad to see the man not hide behind excuses and take responsibility for his actions and words, that’s honestly refreshing. However at the end of the day Disney had to make a call, stand by the guy that’s not just being accused but there is digital proof of his words or cut ties and not risk any backlash to their billions upon billion dollar company. From a business standpoint I definitely don’t blame them. I’m hoping that’s all this was, just tweets. I don’t think this is a defend him or damn him situation. He came out, he apologized, and suffered and accepted the punishment for his actions. Let’s move on

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Have you ever been to a comedy show? or even watched a podcast with comedians?



Every single thing is material to a comedian. Not that Gunn was a professional stand up comedian but still.

Is twitter a comedy show or a comedy podcast?

But still what? So you want to compare him to a professional comedian, many of which lose gigs because of material, to Gunn, who isn't one and what he wrote on twitter?

 

[samsnee]

Sean Gunn might, but they can always work around Kraglin's loss and get another mo-cap actor for Rocket. Not as bad a loss. Pratt is under contract still as far as I know, so he won't have much choice. I think that applies for all the Guardians.

I won’t shed a tear for Kraglin. His character wasn’t funny and he only got the job because of his brother.

Pratt is going nowhere. Marvel pays him well and outside of Guardians and Jurassic World, he hasn’t had a hit movie.

I’m hoping the next director keeps the similar tone and humor but maybe not have jokes as dumb as planets having penises or random Pac-man cameos.

 

[Kuwolski]

Maybe Gunn promised he'd delete those tweets at the time. And yet he kept them for 6 years...

It would have been smart to do so but apparently Disney didn't care or check up on the fact that those tweets were still there.

And they were offensive and shocking to some people, but still just jokes at the end of the day, which Gunn admitted was his thing back then. He probably thought they were a thing of the past and people (like him) had moved on. If I made those tweets and intended them as jokes I wouldn't have erased them either, unless my employer asked me to. I think Feige probably did last night to avoid what happened, but we saw the tweeted result.

 

[Limonade]

You think he told them he wrote thousands of tweets about raping children and women and then they hired him?

That's an excellent question for Disney and Gunn. Because I don't know.

Maybe that could even be a new question for Disney in future interviews.

 

[LoganGambit87]

JG is a perfect case of just because you have something to say doesn't mean you should

 

[legendkillin]

That is the implication. Lets be clear, he wasn't fired for random tasteless jokes. He was fired from Disney for writing thousands of tweets about raping children and women. If this wasn't a clear issue, why did he try and get rid of them once he realize they were going to resurface? Why did he write an apology?

Is twitter a comedy show or a comedy podcast?

But still what? So you want to compare him to a professional comedian, many of which lose gigs because of material, to Gunn, who isn't one and what he wrote on twitter?

And those tweets were 10 years ago so why did they not check on them before hiring? Not like they were some new spur of the moment tweets or a drunken night of tweeting a day ago.



Most real stand up comedian only don't do sitcom tv shows once established like a Joey Diaz, Joe Rogan(and many comedians that do his podcast). It maybe a comedy show for some because not everyone is forced to follow a person. You have a choice to follow them. I get that some are offended but on social media/twitter unless I was personally singled out (by name which would mean the person actually knows me) I wouldn't care. That is just me though everyone is different.

 

[compgar]

This is a big hit to the MCU
WTF