Jessica Jones Jessica Jones General Discussion Thread - Part 2

[dmcreif]

I feel like in season 3, no doubt Jessica and Trish will start as rivals. Trish very well may be an antagonist of sorts, but I think in the end, their bond as sisters will win out. I don't see Jessica killing Trish or anything like that. I think Jessica may think it will come to that, only to realize she is wrong.

Next season is going to be messy. But that is what I love about this show: it deals with messy topics in a great way.

Yeah, Trish as a villain would never work. Trish and Jessica care for each other too much that they won't kill or hurt each other in a really bad way. And having Trish as a villain would mirror Season 2 too much, with a lot of the conflict stemming from family. I think that whatever the threat is in season 3, it would make more sense to have Jessica and Trish both going after it and thwarting each other as they butt heads, with the impetus being a mix of Jessica still not being able to look at Trish because of her choices as well as her judging Trish's techniques as a newbie hero without yet understanding the responsibility that comes with her abilities and how it could lead her to become no better than the bad guys. This could come to a head where Trish finally gets it and tries to get Jessica to take her on as a peer/sidekick to teach her, which will be a long road of refusals that ultimately ends in concession and Jessica forgiving Trish, due to the nature of the threat they are up against.

With Malcolm, he'll likely come back to work for Jessica once he begins to take issue with the sorts of things that Cheng tasks him with doing, and will come to realize he misses working with Jessica and thus go back to her.

 

[dmcreif]

So what? That's never prevented changes before. Rafael Scarfe was always a good guy and was one of the good ones in the comics. Not in the TV show.



After Season 2 of Jessica Jones it makes a lot of sense considering where it left both character. She already rejected Trish at the end of Season 2.

They are only sisters by choice, but not by blood. That doesn't mean the bond can't be shattered.

As I had said, I feel that Jessica MUST forgive Trish by the end of season 3, and it would be out of character for her to reject Trish.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I too think they cannot complete season 3 without them forgiving each other. I think that has to happen.

 

[dmcreif]

What I think a lot of people forget is that Trish is not only a recovering drug addict, but also a freaking child rape survivor (not to mention what other traumas she had to face from her narcissist mother). So the people who are demonizing Trish are completely ignoring the entire reasoning of why she's acting the way she is to begin with. She's probably just as mentally messed up as Jessica. It's this little thing we call "character development" where characters evolve, they don't always make the right choices, and they don't always stay likeable.

 

[TheVileOne]

What I think a lot of people forget is that Trish is not only a recovering drug addict, but also a freaking child rape survivor (not to mention what other traumas she had to face from her narcissist mother). So the people who are demonizing Trish are completely ignoring the entire reasoning of why she's acting the way she is to begin with. She's probably just as mentally messed up as Jessica. It's this little thing we call "character development" where characters evolve, they don't always make the right choices, and they don't always stay likeable.

Jessica didn't forgive her at the end of season 2. Why should I? A lot of people have had tough lives. At one point do you stop making excuses when they continue to do self destructive and terrible things.

 

[Geowolf]

Jessica didn't forgive her at the end of season 2. Why should I? A lot of people have had tough lives. At one point do you stop making excuses when they continue to do self destructive and terrible things.

I do agree with your assessment, only Jessica also has blood in her ledger, but it is human to respond and not forgive her (for now) the way that she did. There is more similarities between Jessica and Trish than you first see, on the outside they are very different and the first character layer also, but under that are similar things from troubled pasts. I hope those similarities will come to the surface and point them in the same direction again. (towards a possible a season 3 big baddy)

 

[XStreme Skins]

I would have thought many people who didn't like season 2 but did like season 1, would still be up for season 3. The S2 stuff was like a big one-off event that can't be repeated rather than what we can expect as the norm.

I loved season 1 but am bleh towards 2. The main reason 1 was the best run out of all the MN shows was it had the best villian; Kilgrave. Him not being on the show left a big void.

Although if Jessica and Trish start out as super rivals; competing to see who the better super hero is, it would be a big step up from last season.

 

[Iceman]

I loved season 1 but am bleh towards 2. The main reason 1 was the best run out of all the MN shows was it had the best villian; Kilgrave. Him not being on the show left a big void.

Although if Jessica and Trish start out as super rivals; competing to see who the better super hero is, it would be a big step up from last season.

Yeah, he is going to be very hard to replace in the villain stakes. Same for me though, seeing Trish and Jess as rivals now will be a nice boost for the show. I still love Ritter in the role.

 

[dmcreif]

Jessica didn't forgive her at the end of season 2. Why should I? A lot of people have had tough lives. At one point do you stop making excuses when they continue to do self destructive and terrible things.

My guess is that Jessica will probably not even think about talking to Trish until she has fully mourned her mother. I think Jessica understood at some level that Alisa's death was a possible outcome of this situation. But at the same time, I'd also say that Jessica is still a long way from reaching that level of emotional distance, and if anything, I imagine that Trish understands that.

Now, at the same time, Jessica spent over 17 years thinking her mother was dead. However, as much as Jessica bonded with her mom over the course of the season, Alisa was still, much like Elektra was to Matt in The Defenders or even Harold Meachum was to Joy in Iron Fist, only a shell of the person Jessica remembered. That may help Jessica heal somewhat quickly, and once that happens, she may reach out to Trish, or more likely, be willing to allow Trish to reach out to her.

It's also important to note, if it hasn't already been mentioned, but Trish and Jessica have managed to reconcile from previous falling outs before, as the "Cray-Cray" flashbacks showed, and they are always going to need each other for emotional support.

 

[TheVileOne]

Previous fallouts are a bit different than putting down your mother.

 

[Geowolf]

Previous fallouts are a bit different than putting down your mother.

I agree, this will definitly leave a mark on Jessica and maybe Trish will realise it when her high is a bit over.
This will determine the course of the next season and I think it might be a storyline that will have Jessica and Trish not so much against each other, but both trying to reach the same goal or helping each other without wanting to. I am confusing myself lolz, I can't wait for the next season to be honest. I am just hoping it'll be good.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Previous fallouts are a bit different than putting down your mother.

You have indeed identified the conflict in their relationship. So when they forgive each other in the end, given what happened between them, it will feel more like a journey.

 

[Lencho01]

'Jessica Jones' Creator to Exit for 8-Figure Warner Bros. TV Deal (Exclusive)

 

[Spider-Fan]

I loved season 1 and 2, so she has had a good run

Hopefully whoever would takeover does a great job as well. They did a good job replacing Drew Goddard, so I have faith.

 

[Man in the Suit]

'Jessica Jones' Creator to Exit for 8-Figure Warner Bros. TV Deal (Exclusive)

Probably for the best because season 2 was awful.


Might be bad for WB if whatever she makes is like season 2.

 

[Slick]

'Jessica Jones' Creator to Exit for 8-Figure Warner Bros. TV Deal (Exclusive)

I loved season 1 and 2, so she has had a good run

Hopefully whoever would takeover does a great job as well. They did a good job replacing Drew Goddard, so I have faith.

Yeah I’m a little bit sad that she’s leaving but it happens. She gave us two great seasons imo. Hoping that they’ll choose the right showrunner to take her place.I'm hoping this will be a Daredevil season 2 thing because I’m one of the few that thought Daredevil season 2 was better than 1 (which I already loved).

 

[Mike Murdock]

I believe it was reported that she would leave after next season.

 

[dmcreif]

She's still doing season 3. But this is her last season as showrunner for Jessica Jones. Probably because she wants to move on to other projects.

 

[Dr.]

I just finished up season 2. I loved it. It’s hard to compare it against season 1 (which I also loved.) On the one hand, S1 had a somewhat more conventional hero/villain structure. And Kilgrave was a most excellent villain. On the other, S2 set itself the challenge of telling a compelling “action story” with no real villains. (Or, alternatively, a story where everyone was a villain to one degree or another.) Tricky. But IMO, the challenge was met - and exceeded.

Top notch television.

 

[NotNickFury]

You know in light of Luke Cage and Iron Fist getting the axe...I have to wonder, with the third season of Jessica Jones being filmed now, last I checked, what if they decide to bookend the third season with no doors left open for a fourth season? You know, on the off-chance they get the hunch or idea that their show might be next on the chopping block.

 

[TheVileOne]

Daredevil S3 ended by tying up a lot of loose ends, save for one little thing. Have to wonder if they are thinking similarly for Jessica Jones.

 

[squeekness]

When does this air?

 

[Spider-Fan]

When does this air?

Way too early to know. Netflix likely won't give it a date until a month or 2 before it airs.

 

[squeekness]

Way too early to know. Netflix likely won't give it a date until a month or 2 before it airs.

Ah, thanks.

 

[Iceman]

I hope this season is much more popular so that this show has a shot to continue, wherever that may be.