The Batman said:Best.Retcon.EVER
Defitnley
The Batman said:Best.Retcon.EVER
theMan-Bat said:Of course the new movie version has everything to do with this.
So now the real question is how much of Batman's real comics history has been thrown out of official continuity for the new movie version Post-Infinity Crisis?
theMan-Bat said:Adding the Begins Ra's training to the comics throws out alot of Batman's comic history. Batman #232 (1971) "The Daughter of the Demon" by Ra's creators Denny O'Neil and Neal Adams is clearly the first time Batman meets Ra's. "Who are you?" he says. Ra's figured out Bruce Wayne is Batman by a simple matter of deduction and research. He reasoned that the Batman had to be wealthy and that he needed certain kinds of equipment. Therefore, he merely had his organization investigate and found out Bruce Wayne alone bought what the Batman had to have. Batman says "Okay...That's a hole I'll plug! I'm surprised someone didn't think of it years ago." He even says to Ra's "For years I've trained myself to concentrate on the thing at hand." not, "For years you trained me".
Blind Justice (1989), written by Sam Hamm (Batman '89), shows Bruce was trained in martial arts by old asian martial arts master Chu Chin Li. French Private Investigator Ducard only trained Bruce as a detective. The detective part of Bruce's training is not even mentioned in Begins. How he trains to become the World's Greatest Detective.
Because continuity itself is limiting and pointless. Continuity in these things is stupid. 70 years of stories by different writers with different takes and different ideas cannot be fit into the same history. And retcons like Crisis, Zero Hour, and IC are what they are: incredibly lame attempts to "wipe the board clean" and give new creators a chance to play. But they are the lamest stories themselves. Multiverse? Hypertime? Superboy punching a timewall? Seriously?
Would it hurt to make these stories like Bond? Where a loose framework exists, but stories stand on their own and creators are allowed to change, edit, adapt, or do what they feel is right as creators, in one story?
Why is continuity so damn important, anyway?
Also, Joe Chill was never arrested in the original Joe Chill story.
Chill should be out of continuity because the Chill text contradicted the original material. Where as the original asserts, for example, that both Thomas and Martha Wayne died from bullet wounds, the Joe Chill text asserted that only Thomas Wayne was shot and died from a bullet wound, while Martha Wayne died from shock.
But the original material is betrayed and refined all the time.
Do you want a pipe-smoking Bruce Wayne who's best friends with Gordon, and a Batman that carries guns and shoots people? That's what's in my original archive books here.