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Johnny Depp sues ex-wife Amber Heard over article

Sorry to cherry pick your entire post but this isn't true for every fight they had because I listened to one of the audio recordings a few months ago on Youtube from what I presume is the pair of them talking it out following 1 of their many bust ups.

From what I remember, they each recollect the events of a particular night & they were having a heated argument & at some point in the argument Depp walked through a doorway & aggressively tried to slam the door which hit Heard's toes, to which she obviously lamped him one, followed by a brief scuffle.

In the recording they both apologised to one another, he claimed it was an accident, which to be fair it probably was ie the door hitting her bit, but he damn sure meant to slam the door as hard & as violently as he could in anger. She then apologised for whacking him but only done so out of retaliation.
No, you didn't cherry pick anything. :D

I mentioned that incident in one of my post.

Actually the incident was about how Amber became violent in one of their fight and Depp ran away from her to hid in the bathroom. She kept knocking the door until finally Depp unlock the door. Then Amber harshly open the door but Depp hold the door to keep her out. They both pushed the door until the door accidentally scraped Amber’s toes. Depp then bend down to checked her toes but Amber, enraged, kicked the door hard to Depp’s head it staggered him and then barged in to punch him on the jaw.

She admitted that she did hit him then.
This is the conversation that turned into Amber's ‘I’m not punching you, I’m just hitting you’.

I finally found one vid that censored the cuss words. :funny: You can hear them discussing the incident here.
 
And nah, I didn’t buy that he couldn’t hurt a fly. :funny: That was some of his fans’ claims. Definitely not a teetotaler. Depp and his team actually admitted this on the court. It was Amber that actually denied her drugs used and her drinking.

Because domestic violence has pattern and most of the time a recurring one. That’s why it’s common that when a person accused of DV, usually other survivor(s) came forward.

And Depp already did drugs and drinking since he was young and went through multiple years of long relationship. Yet no other exes claimed that he was abusive. Even without abuse, relationship that ended usually soured either one or both parties but in Depp’s case, his exes back to his first wife in the 80’s actually backed him. Amber’s allegations actually open the gate for more allegation yet his other exes actually defended him publicly.



No, two. Writes in blood on walls was Depp after Amber (she admitted it was her fault in her own secret recording) severed the top of his finger. The one who defecated on the bed was Amber. Come on, even Amber and The Judge agree that Depp wasn’t in the building. And no, definitely not from her miniature dog.

I spare the rest of us from the cursed image, but you can actually Google the said poop image that was taken by the housekeeper. She found the poop covered under the sheet. Definitely not a dog’s poop, that’s all I can say.


How likely? That’s why I believed in Amber first.

Depp wasted a lot of the times, but as you can see and heard from Amber’s own recordings, she never mentioned about him abusing her. Even in the kitchen ‘fight’ video (the one that TMZ edited which seemed that Depp angry at Amber then after dumping her phone, beat her), if you see the full version (both this and TMZ version are full cussing, I can't display here), you can see that even when angry Depp didn’t touch her and just slamming cupboards and inanimate objects.

She acted meek and said sorry, but in TMZ version, they removed his response. He said things that happened to him wasn’t happened at her. So, he didn’t even angry at her, and after he realized she was secretly recording him, he dump her phone and left. Without touching her. You could see Amber dropped the act after he took her phone. She was actually unafraid, even taunting him and laughing at him. Even following him and you can see her smirk and clean face afterwards. She collected ‘evidence’ even then.

Amber planned it from the start? It was a possibility. She wanted to get married (and fought hard for the marriage) and Depp said that ‘knew the fights wouldn’t stop when we got married, but thought it would curb them a little’ (they discussed it in the recording).

Interesting that you mentioned emails. Amber’s team actually used her unsent email drafts as evidence.

It was unbelievable for me at first, but from evidence, it seemed that it was indeed the case. Immediately after marriage, she began to wrote a diary that mentioned Honeymoon incident on a train, how Depp beat her (The Judge ruled this in Depp’s favor, so I don’t think I need to broke it down). But somehow her diary never brought up again for other incidents.

You can Google Amber’s parents’ text to Depp (it has swear words) after Amber issued DV. You can see how shocked Depp was, and her parents admitted to Depp that Amber just following her lawyer’s advice so she could stay on Depp’s penthouse. They even said that Depp has every right to be angry. They also agreed that the restraining order and the doctored photos were her lawyer’s idea too, so they hoped they should together again.

I don’t know if those actually her lawyer’s idea, but Amber’s parents text Depp that Amber confessed to them that the abuse was made up and an excuse for her to not get evicted.


I’m aware that The Sun was the one sued for libel. I stated that in my first post in this thread.

But these evidence will be used later for the Virginia trial next year.


Okay, I’ll give one instance that on top of my head.

In Amber’s case actually she changed dates because later people found that there are photographic evidence that showed that she didn’t have face injuries like she claimed. Initially she sworn, and deadly confident that it was March 8, 2013. Her sister Whitney, also sworn the same.

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At the time, she claimed that Depp hit her caused bloody injury and caused them late to the Keith Richard’s event.

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The Smeg fridge, however, only purchased more than a year later.

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After the photo, suddenly she changed her story and dates, claimed that Depp hit her at March 22, 2013. Said he hit her with fist with rings, caused heavy injury. Whitney suddenly changed her dates to matched Amber’s.

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But there are photo of her with Ian Patrick McLagan at March 23, free of facial injuries.

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Amber swore that her face was injured in that photo.

This is not just she forgot the date. She claimed a date with specific details, yet when there are pictures said otherwise, she changed her story and date. Her sister is unreliable, because she was just parroting what Amber said. Identical to the details and even the mistakes. She changed her version of story and dates because Amber changed them first (both sisters was appeared on the court).


The police officers, medical professionals, concierges, anyone who is a neutral party.


The issues are, while Depp provided pictures of his injuries with metadata from the phone, there are pictures of Amber’s injuries that she provided without metadata. That meant she couldn’t prove her pictures are legit, because there are possibility that she could took it later. There are pictures from her with ‘edited’ in the filenames. This is important because multiple witnesses saw her without injuries, while makeup free. This metadata is important because her 2016 DV case against Depp was dismissed with prejudice because of her evidence.


In my subjective thinking, actually they negated Amber’s claims. Because I followed the trial and read court documents (unfortunately, my brain is way too weak to remember all details), and Amber and The Sun couldn’t proved even one incident with actually enough evidence vs Depp’s counter evidence.

But somehow The Judge dismissed neutral parties’ statements but accepted Amber’s (because she said under oath that she said the truth). He rejected Depp’s staff and friends’ statements (because they’re loyal and close too him) but accepted Amber’s friends and sister’s statements even though they lived off of her (some, for quite a while).

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I’m not trying to be argumentative, BTW. My English sucks anyway, so I’m never good with arguments. :D

I think you are actually being perceptive. I hope I didn’t offending you in any way. :yay:

You quoted the wrong person. I didn't say any of those quotes you're replying to.
 
JFC...

I just do not understand the obsession here.
 
You quoted the wrong person. I didn't say any of those quotes you're replying to.
Whoops, I'm really sorry. I'm tired but can't sleep. I'll edit it. :yay:

JFC...

I just do not understand the obsession here.
I'm sorry if appeared like that.
Personally, I'm not obsessed, promise. :D I'm just invested in this and knew about her not being truthful for years. Never once I said anything bad about her before these two weeks. I never even mentioned Depp in other threads, not even once. I followed the trial and commented on that, that's it.

Again, sorry if this bothered you.
Stay safe, have a nice day. :yay:
 
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No, you didn't cherry pick anything. :D

I mentioned that incident in one of my post.

Actually the incident was about how Amber became violent in one of their fight and Depp ran away from her to hid in the bathroom. She kept knocking the door until finally Depp unlock the door. Then Amber harshly open the door but Depp hold the door to keep her out. They both pushed the door until the door accidentally scraped Amber’s toes. Depp then bend down to checked her toes but Amber, enraged, kicked the door hard to Depp’s head it staggered him and then barged in to punch him on the jaw.

She admitted that she did hit him then.
This is the conversation that turned into Amber's ‘I’m not punching you, I’m just hitting you’.

I finally found one vid that censored the cuss words. :funny: You can hear them discussing the incident here.


I think, but not 100% certain I've listened to a much longer version of that, I seem to remember them talking about what happened for longer than 2-3 minutes.. I could be wrong though. As I said I listened to it months ago when I was doing something about the house.

Even though they're both trying to recollect what happened after what I presume was a drunken fight, without actually seeing with my own eyes how it unfolded it's hard to really judge what happened. But based on what they both say alone this can't be painted as 'Crazed psycho Amber Heard turns violent & attacks angel Johnny Depp unprovoked'.

From the way it sounds, I presume this took place essentially, in the doorway, he opens the door, she's standing in the doorway they're talking/arguing & at some point he decides he doesn't want to talk to her anymore & she doesn't want to move out of the doorway to let him close the door, so he forces it & it ends up hitting her toes.
 
I think, but not 100% certain I've listened to a much longer version of that, I seem to remember them talking about what happened for longer than 2-3 minutes.. I could be wrong though. As I said I listened to it months ago when I was doing something about the house.

Even though they're both trying to recollect what happened after what I presume was a drunken fight, without actually seeing with my own eyes how it unfolded it's hard to really judge what happened. But based on what they both say alone this can't be painted as 'Crazed psycho Amber Heard turns violent & attacks angel Johnny Depp unprovoked'.

From the way it sounds, I presume this took place essentially, in the doorway, he opens the door, she's standing in the doorway they're talking/arguing & at some point he decides he doesn't want to talk to her anymore & she doesn't want to move out of the doorway to let him close the door, so he forces it & it ends up hitting her toes.
No, you’re not wrong. The conversation should be happened more than 2-3 minutes. But the leak (I called it second leak) of that conversation was just that excerpt of the audio. That’s not just a specific one when they were talking about the door-toes stuff though.

They actually talked about why that happened in other conversation, and possibly what you heard (the first audio leak, Incredibly Average channel on YouTube uploaded it with subtitle. Can’t post here because that was uncensored. You just need to skip the uploader’s commentary when his avatar was on screen. I did that so I stay unbiased when listened to it). In the first audio leak, she talked about how her problem with Depp, he always ‘split’. During the conversation they talked about how he was always running away from fight even though she was not getting physical.

They keep talking until they brought up the bathroom door fight (that happened the night before of this conversation), the ‘I was not punching you, I was hitting you’. They both agree that at that time Depp ‘split’ and running away from her because (Amber admitted it herself) she started physical fight(s). He brought up about her toes and her hitting him as the result, so that was indeed a conversation about the bathroom door incident.

From the audio that I mentioned above (the first leak), Depp mentioned that prior to the bathroom incident happened, originally he was laying on the bed watching television. And Amber didn’t challenged that, she admitted that she ‘f---d up last night’ but she can’t blamed herself for escalating situation because she was sure Depp would ‘split’ again (and he did).

Depp even mentioned what he thought the cause of that fight. Depp was in the Isaac Baruch’s place (next penthouse, one of Depp’s penthouse which he let his friend Isaac lived) for too long and he thought that Amber took issue with that. Amber denied this, said she only talked about that ‘for two seconds’ and was upset from something else but never mentioned it.

And no, no mention of either or both of them were being drunk then fight.

Based on that, if combined, what I got was Depp came to the penthouse late after visiting Baruch in the other penthouse. Amber was upset, Depp didn’t know why. He then lay on the bed and watched the TV then the Amber started the fight. Briefly talked about Depp came home late after visited Baruch and that what Depp thought was the problem. Amber then started to get physical (she admitted it) then Depp flee to the bathroom. Amber followed and kept knocking the door until Depp finally opened it.

Now, we indeed don’t know clearly what happened. From my take, Depp probably didn’t mean to let Amber in but she did anyway. Then Depp tried to prevent that by closing the door. That’s why I thought both pushed their way with the door. It then scrapped her toes. The door never fully closed either because he immediately realized he scrapped her toes then checked on them from behind the door (never mentioned about he reopened the door). And also that’s why he said about how Amber kicked the door ‘to be more open’. He swore it was accidental, and I think Amber agree, because she didn’t challenged it (she debated him for things she didn’t agree with, throughout their conversation). So, I didn’t think he close the door on her on purpose to hurt her. That’s why their focus was about the door kicking to the head then she barged in to punched him.

After that, Depp texted Travis McGivern, his bodyguard to came the place. Depp said to Amber to tell Travis about what she did to him but Amber lied (she admitted it later). Then they talked about it in the audio leak as we know of.

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Disclaimer, while it seemed that I know much, I actually don’t. I follow this case for years, read the court documents and listen to audio clips etc months ago but I have pretty weak memory so I can’t remember most of it.
 
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If this turns out to be true and not him just trying to get sympathy, congrats Johnny. You played yourself. Couldn't have happened to a better guy.
 
Have i missed something? I thought they both Abused each other pretty badly.
I mean i never liked him in the role, but if he is asked to resign and Heard not, doesnt that look a bit weird?

Maybe i missed something vital to this, but seems kind of bad if they get rid of him but not the equal as abusive partner just because she is a woman.

But like i said, maybe i missed something super important on this.
 
Yea if he gets fired and she doesn’t it looks like a double standard.

Personally while I didn’t like Depp in the role and thought he was blatantly phoning it in, I think recasting mid-story for offscreen personal issues like this is lame.
 
Have i missed something? I thought they both Abused each other pretty badly.
I mean i never liked him in the role, but if he is asked to resign and Heard not, doesnt that look a bit weird?

Maybe i missed something vital to this, but seems kind of bad if they get rid of him but not the equal as abusive partner just because she is a woman.

But like i said, maybe i missed something super important on this.
Johnny Depp decided he wanted to sue the Sun over an article they wrote about him, and in the process got the judge to say that the Sun's article calling him a wife beater was substantially true and thus Heard correct.
 
JD as Grindelwald never did it for me so I personally don't care about that re-casting, but it might be nice for these problematic people to step away from movies until they get their **** together.
 
Turns out the judge in his case knew Heard's lawyer. no conflict of interest there.....

But if he's getting fired, she should be getting fired too. Espectially after what came out about what she did. It's ridiculous if she gets off scott free.
 
Turns out the judge in his case knew Heard's lawyer. no conflict of interest there.....

But if he's getting fired, she should be getting fired too. Espectially after what came out about what she did. It's ridiculous if she gets off scott free.
You don't think former lawyers know other lawyers? You need to watch more crappy network television. I learned that when I was like 9 watching Law and Order.

I personally don't care what happens to Heard as far as WB goes, but why would she be fired when Depp just proved her case in court? He got a judge to call him a wife beater, and thus she was a the battered wife, what the judge found was 12 of 14 alleged incidents. People hit their abusers. They fight back. WWE's Paige just recently talked about how she use to fight back against her abuser, until she couldn't anymore. There was one incident caught on video where she tried to leave a bar, and she dumped a drink on him, when he wouldn't let her leave. Men being as they are on the internet screamed, "but she abused him". The man who would lock her on hotel rooms for hours and beat her every few minutes. He's on trial for sexual assault and kidnapping in January by the way. Of another person.
 
Have i missed something? I thought they both Abused each other pretty badly.
I mean i never liked him in the role, but if he is asked to resign and Heard not, doesnt that look a bit weird?

Maybe i missed something vital to this, but seems kind of bad if they get rid of him but not the equal as abusive partner just because she is a woman.

But like i said, maybe i missed something super important on this.

Johnny Depp decided he wanted to sue the Sun over an article they wrote about him, and in the process got the judge to say that the Sun's article calling him a wife beater was substantially true and thus Heard correct.

Exactly what Darth has said, if she remains in her existing WB roles, whatever they are outside of Mera in any potential Aquaman sequels, it has nothing to do with the fact that she's a woman & he's a man.

She didn't go to court to try & prove her complete innocence, he did & as a result he got a judge to basically admit that there is enough evidence to suggest that The Scum.. I'm sorry I meant The Sun's article, had some validity to it.
 
Exactly what Darth has said, if she remains in her existing WB roles, whatever they are outside of Mera in any potential Aquaman sequels, it has nothing to do with the fact that she's a woman & he's a man.

She didn't go to court to try & prove her complete innocence, he did & as a result he got a judge to basically admit that there is enough evidence to suggest that The Scum.. I'm sorry I meant The Sun's article, had some validity to it.
Seriously, it's the Sun. :barf:

Even the suggestion they are right feels wrong, but here we are.
 
Turns out the judge in his case knew Heard's lawyer. no conflict of interest there.....

But if he's getting fired, she should be getting fired too. Espectially after what came out about what she did. It's ridiculous if she gets off scott free.

Define "knew".

Are we talking they know each other on a personal & social level? ie best friends, golfing/drinking buddies? or do they know each other on a professional level?
 
You don't think former lawyers know other lawyers? You need to watch more crappy network television. I learned that when I was like 9 watching Law and Order.

I personally don't care what happens to Heard as far as WB goes, but why would she be fired when Depp just proved her case in court? He got a judge to call him a wife beater, and thus she was a the battered wife, what the judge found was 12 of 14 alleged incidents. People hit their abusers. They fight back. WWE's Paige just recently talked about how she use to fight back against her abuser, until she couldn't anymore. There was one incident caught on video where she tried to leave a bar, and she dumped a drink on him, when he wouldn't let her leave. Men being as they are on the internet screamed, "but she abused him". The man who would lock her on hotel rooms for hours and beat her every few minutes. He's on trial for sexual assault and kidnapping in January by the way. Of another person.

Because, there's literally evidence of her saying she was abusive to him. If that's not enough to show she played her role in this 'relationship' then frankly I don't know what is. She's not a ****ing angel in any of this, and to act like she's this helpless damsel is ridiculous.
 
Define "knew".

Are we talking they know each other on a personal & social level? ie best friends, golfing/drinking buddies? or do they know each other on a professional level.

Went to law school together apparently.
 
Went to law school together apparently.

This means very little by itself because it doesn't tell us anything about their relationship. They might have went to law school together & barely know each other.
 
This means very little by itself because it doesn't tell us anything about their relationship. They might have went to law school together & barely know each other.

And could just have easily been best mates who worked together on every class assignment. The point is we don't know.
 
This is his own fault. From the sound of things, they probably both did some horrible things to each toher, but I doubt WB cares. They seemed happy to let them continue in theiir roles in spte of any abuse they may have done. But then Depp decided to dig himself into a hole and get himself marked as an abusive husband by the courts. If Heard went and pulled the same stupid move, I imagine we'd be seeing her resignation letter. It's the game of public perception.
 
This is his own fault. From the sound of things, they probably both did some horrible things to each toher, but I doubt WB cares. They seemed happy to let them continue in theiir roles in spte of any abuse they may have done. But then Depp decided to dig himself into a hole and get himself marked as an abusive husband by the courts. If Heard went and pulled the same stupid move, I imagine we'd be seeing her resignation letter. It's the game of public perception.

Exactly what I was trying to say but you've worded it significantly better. :D
 
And could just have easily been best mates who worked together on every class assignment. The point is we don't know.

Oh please. Going to law school together means jack ****. Really. It means absolutely nothing.
 
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