Judge Dredd Reboot!!

[jimmylace]

It sounds basically like a Judge Dredd meets Die Hard type story. Eh I dunno. I kind of wanted dark judges.

Iraq war allegories = lame as ****.

Just saying, that **** ruined PRINCE OF PERSIA.

Yeah it basically is. I wanted dark judges too (theres a small reference to Judge Death)

All good sci-fi has allegory...essentially, the apartment would have been better off if Dredd hadn't turned up given the collateral damage.

There was always an anti-state satire thread running through the Dredd comics. It's in the movie script too (one cool scene shows him sniping a hit and runner from a seriously long distance. he wounds an innocent woman to nail him. Lying in a pool of blood he tells the innocent woman "Keep calm, I missed your vital organs."

It's small-scale. It's a low budget script, but it's done well. Theres some great action and we get to see Anderson shoot a machine gun 1 inch from some poor henchmens face "until it is gone"

At least it's guaranteed to be better than the first attempt. I've got a feeling it will divide the audience like "Predators" did...

 

[TheVileOne]

Yeah it basically is. I wanted dark judges too (theres a small reference to Judge Death)

All good sci-fi has allegory...essentially, the apartment would have been better off if Dredd hadn't turned up given the collateral damage.

Again that's lame to me. Do something cool like the Dark Judges and do all the anti-war BS later. The villain just sounds weak. I don't see the point in confining Dredd to a tower for an entire movie.

Hamfisted political allegory these days is really annoying though in cinemas. Audiences have also generally made it clear they don't want it in escapist entertainment.

I don't want Judge Dredd to feel bad about being a judge. I've never found Dredd to be an apologetic character. Anderson sounds like she will be much like Hershey as in the original movie. Don't care for that either.

There was always an anti-state satire thread running through the Dredd comics. It's in the movie script too (one cool scene shows him sniping a hit and runner from a seriously long distance. he wounds an innocent woman to nail him. Lying in a pool of blood he tells the innocent woman "Keep calm, I missed your vital organs."

I get that Dredd is basically a fascist figure. But shouldn't we ultimately embrace or like this overzealous law enforcer?

It's small-scale. It's a low budget script, but it's done well. Theres some great action and we get to see Anderson shoot a machine gun 1 inch from some poor henchmens face "until it is gone"

At least it's guaranteed to be better than the first attempt. I've got a feeling it will divide the audience like "Predators" did...

Just saying here's the point. This is for all intents a do over or reboot for Judge Dredd cinematically. It's been over 15 years since the last one, and this could be Dredd's last shot cinematically for the forseeable future. On that note that's why I want to see things like Judge Death because if this movie fails we will never get to see that again.

 

[jimmylace]

I agree, the "Ma-Ma" villain is weak, and for me personally, Judge Death to Dredd is Joker to Batman.

Whilst Dredd and Anderson are confined to a tower block, it is a self-contained super-block with some cinematic eye-candy ( a huge 200 storey atrium is a centerpiece)

Theres tons of crowd-action - the death toll reaches the hundreds.

The opening has some scale with a freeway chase, but again like most scripts, is up to the director how big this scene gets.

Dredd isn't unlikeable, he is still the faceless lawgiving Dredd from the comics - he's got some good lines, and again, the Robocop comparison is there.

The anti-Iraq allegory is really very subtle, its bordering on my on interpretation and doubt alot of people will even pick it up. Its far more subtle than say, the environmental/faith-vs-science themes in "Sunshine"
(written by the same guy who penned this script I believe)

Anderson does have some sympathetic qualities. Due to her mind-readng she's able to sympathise with some of the perps and regrets executing on Dredds orders. So it is in there -shes a very interesting character.

I read about 20 or so 2000AD comics when I was around 12 but never followed them more than that. There was also the Judge Dredd spin-off comic (I remember the art not being as good) which I caught a couple of copies of..but I wouldn't say I'm a huge enough fan to have caught any character changes.

Theres also corrupt Judges and a great stand-off between Dredd and these guys which raises the bar.

Generally I agree with you though vileone...but I'm hoping this should be just enough to get the interest going in Dredd movies. If you walk in knowing it's a small-scale, test the water kind of movie...and as long as the director doesn't fluff it, you should get some enjoyment out of it story and action wise...

It's a good script, but it's not great. It's not bullet-proof either. If the director does a good job we could get a great film, if they don't we could end up with something worse than the first one. fingers xd

 

[jimmylace]

I can't post the link to the script on here but I'm sure with a bit of searching you could find it relatively easily. I found it on "scriptshadow," ran the site-search. The link was posted in the comments section

 

[rogue trooper]

I'm hoping this should be just enough to get the interest going in Dredd movies. If you walk in knowing it's a small-scale, test the water kind of movie...and as long as the director doesn't fluff it, you should get some enjoyment out of it story and action wise...

It's a good script, but it's not great. It's not bullet-proof either. If the director does a good job we could get a great film, if they don't we could end up with something worse than the first one. fingers xd

Agreed. We have to consider the budget they're working with. If the film does good business at the b.o, them maybe they'll get a bit more money to do a sequel, and this time they'll have the budget to do a slightly more epic story based on "The Cursed Earth" storyline or "The Day The Law Died".

 

[Brian Braddock]

I've posted in the past to ask the question of why certain 2000AD reading celebs, like one Simon Pegg, dont use their growing influence in Hollywood to help 2000AD movies get off the ground. After all, it would seem right up Pegg's street and he's even already provided the voice for Dredd and other characters in a few 2000AD audiobooks.

Well, I've just realised that with the casting of Urban, our new Dredd knows Pegg [obviously through] Star Trek. I wonder if Pegg had a hand in getting Urban invloved? Or in suggesting Urban to the producers?

I wonder if he'll jump on board in some capacity at some point?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Agreed. We have to consider the budget they're working with. If the film does good business at the b.o, them maybe they'll get a bit more money to do a sequel, and this time they'll have the budget to do a slightly more epic story based on "The Cursed Earth" storyline or "The Day The Law Died".

Thats why i'm not too bothered about the likes of the dark judges being in this movie because they dont seem to have the budget to do them justice, leave them for a sequel with a bigger budget.

 

[rogue trooper]

I've posted in the past to ask the question of why certain 2000AD reading celebs, like one Simon Pegg, dont use their growing influence in Hollywood to help 2000AD movies get off the ground. After all, it would seem right up Pegg's street and he's even already provided the voice for Dredd and other characters in a few 2000AD audiobooks.

Well, I've just realised that with the casting of Urban, our new Dredd knows Pegg [obviously through] Star Trek. I wonder if Pegg had a hand in getting Urban invloved? Or in suggesting Urban to the producers?

I wonder if he'll jump on board in some capacity at some point?

Interesting observation!

You know, Pegg and his "Shaun" and "Hot Fuzz" co-star Nick Frost could be an adequate "D.R. & Quinch".

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

^Yeah could be, good suggestion RT.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Olivia Thirlby Cast in Judge Dredd

 

[Crockett]

It's cool that they are doing a new adaptation of Judge Dredd. Hopefully this one will be better. I think is great that Karl Urban has the lead role and that Thirlby is in it too, she's a good actress.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Olivia Thirlby Cast in Judge Dredd

Never heard of her but hope she does well, glad we have more casting news .

 

[Project862006]

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1118200p1.html

Film Retitled

"DREDD"

 

[rogue trooper]

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1118200p1.html

Film Retitled

"DREDD"

Exactly as I had previously suggested a while back in these forums.

The Stallone fiasco is still fresh in many people's minds, so I think it is a prudent move in order to dissasociate it from the former.

 

[Project862006]

What you mean this classic

 

[Jumpin' Jack]

Has anybody seen this Fan Film?
[YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2JhQXCjTLY[/YT]

Really Really good.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2JhQXCjTLY

 

[Brian Braddock]

Olivia Thirlby Cast in Judge Dredd

Doesnt really scream Anderson for me, but like with all these things, I'll keep and open mind until pictures and footage comes out.

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/111/1118200p1.html

Film Retitled

"DREDD"

Exactly as I had previously suggested a while back in these forums.

The Stallone fiasco is still fresh in many people's minds, so I think it is a prudent move in order to dissasociate it from the former.

'DREDD' is ok, I guess. Personally, I think they couldve called it 'MEGA CITY ONE' - a title like that has a bit of grandoise about it. Hell, a title like that is practically sticking it's chest out and snarling at other movies because it thinks they are all *****es.

MEGA CITY ONE

 

[Hunter Rider]

How big is Anderson meant to be? b/c Olivia is very petite.

 

[Project862006]

it depends because some pics have her petite some have her look like she is on steroids lol

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

'DREDD' is ok, I guess. Personally, I think they couldve called it 'MEGA CITY ONE' - a title like that has a bit of grandoise about it. Hell, a title like that is practically sticking it's chest out and snarling at other movies because it thinks they are all *****es.

MEGA CITY ONE

yeah except that it's not set in mega city one but a single apartment building, it would be like calling batman arkham asylum gotham

i'm interested but i'm still dissapointed about no dark judges

 

[TheVileOne]

This movie faces many challenges. Like it or not the biggest of switch is the stigma of the flop original which is much maligned amongst moviegoers that do remember and Dredd fans as well.

Also Dredd just isn't that popular or well known in the US. Urban is a good performer but on his own, he's not a box office draw. His biggest hits are when he's a supporting player to a bigger star or amongst bigger ensembles. He had the lead role in the big budget sci-fi videogame movie DOOM which tanked. He was one of the villains in the big budget sci-fi epic CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK which also tanked.

So how do you spend money on a JUDGE DREDD movie and make it relevant to audiences and make them want to see it? Phenomenons like DISTRICT 9 don't just come along easily and sometimes studios and production companies can't force it to happen no matter how hard they try or how much money they dump into something. You can't really control the perfect storm.

The other matter is you have trendsetters like a SIN CITY a 300 or a DARK KNIGHT where its like oh lets make more comic book movies like that. The other thing is, like it or not DREDD isn't going to be a trendsetter or gamechanger really. So how good of a "Everyone in Hollywood loves coming in second" movie is it going to be?

 

[conan69]

The images on the previous page kick ass.

They just... kickass.

 

[rogue trooper]

This movie faces many challenges. Like it or not the biggest of switch is the stigma of the flop original which is much maligned amongst moviegoers that do remember and Dredd fans as well.

Also Dredd just isn't that popular or well known in the US. Urban is a good performer but on his own, he's not a box office draw. His biggest hits are when he's a supporting player to a bigger star or amongst bigger ensembles. He had the lead role in the big budget sci-fi videogame movie DOOM which tanked. He was one of the villains in the big budget sci-fi epic CHRONICLES OF RIDDICK which also tanked.

So how do you spend money on a JUDGE DREDD movie and make it relevant to audiences and make them want to see it? Phenomenons like DISTRICT 9 don't just come along easily and sometimes studios and production companies can't force it to happen no matter how hard they try or how much money they dump into something. You can't really control the perfect storm.

The other matter is you have trendsetters like a SIN CITY a 300 or a DARK KNIGHT where its like oh lets make more comic book movies like that. The other thing is, like it or not DREDD isn't going to be a trendsetter or gamechanger really. So how good of a "Everyone in Hollywood loves coming in second" movie is it going to be?

I agree that the ghost of the 1995 film might be the biggest obstacle of "Dredd". At the same time, however, it's been quite a long time since that film came out, and let's remember there was speculation at some point that the grim existence of "Batman and Robin" would affect "Batman Begins" and didn't. There's a new movie-going audience that has emerged since then.

The fact that the property of Judge Dredd isn't as popular here in the U.S or that Karl Urban hasn't had a hit in a film where he is the leading man, are not, imo, deciding factors on how "Dredd" will perform. Where properties like "Kick-Ass", "Blade", or "The Crow" that popular before becoming films? Karl Urban having been in duds like "Pathfinder", and "Doom" simply says he's had bad luck in picking projects. Those films failed because they were just bad/mediocre. It doesn't say anything negative about Urban's talent. Christian Bale, before "Batman Begins", didn't make an impact either in films like "Reign of Fire" and "Equilibrium".

Will this film be a trendsetter? We'll just have to wait and see for more. I recall the makers of the film stating that certain new techniques were going to be tried for "Dredd". Personally, I'll just be happy if it's a well-crafted "little film" like "Solomon Kane", "Predators", or "Machete".

How this film will perform will depend greatly on how well it is promoted and picking up a reasonable release date.

 

[Jumpin' Jack]

But Christian Bale was good in American Pyshco and Empire of The Sun.

 

[rogue trooper]

But Christian Bale was good in American Pyshco and Empire of The Sun.

Yes, but there's big gap between when "Empire of The Sun" came out and "American Psycho" came out. Between that time, Bale made films in which he was not the main protagonist, for the most part.

Also, "American Psycho" was a relatively known "artsy" film. "Reign of Fire" and "Equilibrium" were "commercial" films in which Bale had leading role.

I will also bring up pre-300 Gerard Butler. "Dracula 2000", "Timeline", "Lara Croft 2", and "Phantom of The Opera" didn't do very good at the b.o.