Jurassic World - Part 10

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It didn't surprise me that AOU didn't break records. Avengers was a lighting in a bottle scenario, a pop culture phenomenon, just like TDK, Spider-man, Batman 89 and Superman before it. But just like those films' sequels, Ultron came up short, because it doesn't have that bottle of lighting that you can only grasp once.
 
Man this movie sucked. I just couldn't believe it.

Chris Pratt, Jake Johnston, and Omar Sy were about the only likeable characters that were actually smart. Though Johnston was on the edge of pure cartoon. Everybody else were just caricatures and that did indeed change but were so ****ing obvious by it I just couldn't believe it. I mean the script was just plan bad. You'd think two indie writers would now better. Meta references to the original isn't going to make it smart. These characters wore their traits over their heads. Nor was the commentary which was just so weak and on the nose it was incredible.

In hindsight, Joss Whedon was right about that clip as much as I didn't want it to be true. Yes Claire changed, but it was so obvious but it still played into the stereotype of "uptight woman changes into badass." God, it just all reeked of your typical 70's movie cliches. There was no subtlety nor dimension to these characters.

And Vincent D'Onfrio's introduction... wow. Literally talking about his entire motivation. He just kept talking... and talking... and talking.

I couldn't believe just how stale the directing was. Where was the verve? There was no suspense, no sense of build up. All the things that we liked about the first one I feel were played with to hit the nostalgia chords but all fell flat because there was no central base. I think Trevorrow forgot why the first worked so well was because of the build up to the mayhem. It just played as a generic fast paced summer movie. This movie just didn't feel unique. Even with the dinosaurs. Even when I just wished to see them, I wasn't excited about them. Even the I-Rex was weak. He wasn't threatening at all. The spino was more effective than this.

Jurassic Park 3 ain't a great movie, but there was at least some heft to it. And better directed despite the lesser script. Joe Johnston should have directed this movie instead. I seriously wonder what the previous draft was that Trevorrow couldn't direct.

Stupid people doing stupid things for the convenience of the plot.

Man, good riddance Trevorrow. When can will we actually see another quality Jurassic Park film? I wouldn't mind if you just created new ones. But with the success of this Pratt will come back surely which I don't mind. You can leave everyone else.
 
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The Universal Executives right about now lol
 
Ten points for whoever sees why these two sentences don't go well together.

English isn't my first language if that's the problem. I ment movie exceed my expectations in a bad way and i was expecting really bad movie.

If somebody gathered ideas of what you don't want to see in a Jurassic Park franchise and make a movie out of them that would be Jurassic World.

Anyway, i'm glad it made tons of money maybe it'll cause dinosaur mania like back in the day.
 
I wonder what Joss Whedon thinks? He out of context critiques a film he hasn't seen and that film grossed more than either of his former box office champs.

All the sweeter that Colin Trevorrow took the high road.

Good day to be a Jurassic Park fan!
 
English isn't my first language if that's the problem. I ment movie exceed my expectations in a bad way and i was expecting really bad movie.

If somebody gathered ideas of what you don't want to see in a Jurassic Park franchise and make a movie out of them that would be Jurassic World.

Anyway, i'm glad it made tons of money maybe it'll cause dinosaur mania like back in the day.

But I didn't mean anything about a language barrier or your English being poor.

First you say that the movie is "actually bad" but then you admit it's everything you would have loathed to see in a Jurassic Park movie.

That makes it pretty difficult to take sentences like "it's the worst movie I've seen" seriously, because it's obvious you're pretty biased. That's all I meant.
 
I do believe Whedon admitted that he shouldn't have said what he said because of how it looked.
 
Man this movie sucked. I just couldn't believe it.

Chris Pratt, Jake Johnston, and Omar Sy were about the only likeable characters that were actually smart. Though Johnston was on the edge of pure cartoon. Everybody else were just caricatures and that did indeed change but were so ****ing obvious by it I just couldn't believe it. I mean the script was just plan bad. You'd think two indie writers would now better. Meta references to the original isn't going to make it smart. These characters wore their traits over their heads. Nor was the commentary which was just so weak and on the nose it was incredible.

In hindsight, Joss Whedon was right about that clip as much as I didn't want it to be true. Yes Claire changed, but it was so obvious but it still played into the stereotype of "uptight woman changes into badass." God, it just all reeked of your typical 70's movie cliches. There was no subtlety nor dimension to these characters.

And Vincent D'Onfrio's introduction... wow. Literally talking about his entire motivation. He just kept talking... and talking... and talking.

I couldn't believe just how stale the directing was. Where was the verve? There was no suspense, no sense of build up. All the things that we liked about the first one I feel were played with to hit the nostalgia chords but all fell flat because there was no central base. I think Trevorrow forgot why the first worked so well was because of the build up to the mayhem. It just played as a generic fast paced summer movie. This movie just didn't feel unique. Even with the dinosaurs. Even when I just wished to see them, I wasn't excited about them. Even the I-Rex was weak. He wasn't threatening at all. The spino was more effective than this.

Jurassic Park 3 ain't a great movie, but there was at least some heft to it. And better directed despite the lesser script. Joe Johnston should have directed this movie instead. I seriously wonder what the previous draft was that Trevorrow couldn't direct.

Stupid people doing stupid things for the convenience of the plot.

Man, good riddance Trevorrow. When can will we actually see another quality Jurassic Park film? I wouldn't mind if you just created new ones. But with the success of this Pratt will come back surely which I don't mind. You can leave everyone else.

To be fair, Speilberg personally oversaw the story development of this movie.
 
Wow this is really surprising! I knew the Avengers OW would eventually be passed, but didn't expect it to come from this
 
I wonder what Joss Whedon thinks? He out of context critiques a film he hasn't seen and that film grossed more than either of his former box office champs.

He probably doesn't care. Which would highlight the absurdity of when a person who does have vested financial stake in a movie's profit could care less than basement dwelling nerds with none of it.
 
But I didn't mean anything about a language barrier or your English being poor.

First you say that the movie is "actually bad" but then you admit it's everything you would have loathed to see in a Jurassic Park movie.

That makes pretty difficult to see sentences liek "it's the worst movie I've seen" objectively, because it's obvious you're pretty biased. That's all I meant.

I was expecting a bad movie from what we have known based on trailers and some rumors but the parts that i had no idea made it even worse experience for me.

Sometimes even if i think concept might be bad, how you tell the story can save a movie. That didn't happen. Actually i found out quickly, not just concepts but almost every aspect of the movie was failing.
 
Per BoxOffice's Twitter feed: $81.954M on Friday, $69.645M Saturday, and $57.207M on Sunday.

https://***********/BoxOffice/status/610502793271615489

It narrowly broke The Avengers' record by $1.8M.
 
To be fair, Speilberg personally oversaw the story development of this movie.

Yet Trevorrow executed it and it sucked. The blame goes to him. Spielberg actually had the three most interesting ideas. But none of this matters because money talks and Universal is going to make ten more of these so it doesn't matter what I think. They found a new franchise after Fast and Furious leaves us.

The raptors were really well done. The moment where Blue has to choose between Owen and the I-Rex was actually the most heart felt moment in the entire film. Good on Trevorrow for making me feel something for something like a raptor. Blue would make a good continuing supporting "sidekick" character for Owen in the future films. As long as the other raptors are dangerous, Blue at least gives us something fresh.
 
Yes! #1! #1! #1! I've always thought that The Avengers didn't deserve the #1 spot. Come Dec and Star Wars may smash this record again.
The Avengers was more than deserving of the #1 spot because of how big of an event it was at the time.
 
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I'm expecting Universal creating a Jurassic Universe after all this box office success.
 
I just watched it.

For how many problems this film may have, as far as I'm concerned, that final confrontation makes up for everything. :woot:
 
I wonder what Joss Whedon thinks? He out of context critiques a film he hasn't seen and that film grossed more than either of his former box office champs.

All the sweeter that Colin Trevorrow took the high road.

Good day to be a Jurassic Park fan!

Jurassic Worlds box office success is karma for:

1. Joss criticising a movie he hadn't seen, and
2. Killing Quicksilver :cwink:

Seriously though, I think Whedon apologised so no harm done.

I'm so pleased that this movie has done so well. I remember many discussions on forums about how JW would be awful, bomb at the box office etc (same for Mad Max). I recall being mocked when I suggested the nostalgia factor could create serious success for this movie.
 
I bet not even Joss Whedon cares about what Joss Whedon thinks about JW's success. The way the internet talks you'd think Whedon is the sworn enemy of JW or something :whatever:
 
I bet not even Joss Whedon cares about what Joss Whedon thinks about JW's success. The way the internet talks you'd think Whedon is the sworn enemy of JW or something :whatever:
I know, he made one comment about one clip in response to what The Mary Sue thought about that clip (despite what some say, he was not critiquing the entire film based off that one clip). We all had opinions about that clip when it was released, some of us agreed with him (some of us still agree with him), some of us didn't. He apologized, why people can't let it go....?? :whatever:
 
Man this movie sucked. I just couldn't believe it.

Chris Pratt, Jake Johnston, and Omar Sy were about the only likeable characters that were actually smart. Though Johnston was on the edge of pure cartoon. Everybody else were just caricatures and that did indeed change but were so ****ing obvious by it I just couldn't believe it. I mean the script was just plan bad. You'd think two indie writers would now better. Meta references to the original isn't going to make it smart. These characters wore their traits over their heads. Nor was the commentary which was just so weak and on the nose it was incredible.

In hindsight, Joss Whedon was right about that clip as much as I didn't want it to be true. Yes Claire changed, but it was so obvious but it still played into the stereotype of "uptight woman changes into badass." God, it just all reeked of your typical 70's movie cliches. There was no subtlety nor dimension to these characters.

And Vincent D'Onfrio's introduction... wow. Literally talking about his entire motivation. He just kept talking... and talking... and talking.

I couldn't believe just how stale the directing was. Where was the verve? There was no suspense, no sense of build up. All the things that we liked about the first one I feel were played with to hit the nostalgia chords but all fell flat because there was no central base. I think Trevorrow forgot why the first worked so well was because of the build up to the mayhem. It just played as a generic fast paced summer movie. This movie just didn't feel unique. Even with the dinosaurs. Even when I just wished to see them, I wasn't excited about them. Even the I-Rex was weak. He wasn't threatening at all. The spino was more effective than this.

Jurassic Park 3 ain't a great movie, but there was at least some heft to it. And better directed despite the lesser script. Joe Johnston should have directed this movie instead. I seriously wonder what the previous draft was that Trevorrow couldn't direct.

Stupid people doing stupid things for the convenience of the plot.

Man, good riddance Trevorrow. When can will we actually see another quality Jurassic Park film? I wouldn't mind if you just created new ones. But with the success of this Pratt will come back surely which I don't mind. You can leave everyone else.

To be fair, Speilberg personally oversaw the story development of this movie.
 
I think some people seem to believe that these are art house Oscar winning films (acting wise). Jurassic Park/ World are what they are. Big , intense, pulp style action adventures. My favorite film series is Indiana Jones... Full of great actors just like JP. However it's full of actors having a great time and making a fun movie. I was disappointed in the older sequels with JP3 being the best of the original trilogy after JP1. JW exceeded my expectations.
1. Intense action ✔️
2. Great leads/heroes ✔️
3. Awesome Dino action ✔️
4. Surprises and twists ✔️
5. Scary big bad Dino ✔️
6. Money well spent ✔️
 
I wonder what Joss Whedon thinks? He out of context critiques a film he hasn't seen and that film grossed more than either of his former box office champs.

All the sweeter that Colin Trevorrow took the high road.

Good day to be a Jurassic Park fan!

If he's seen the movie, he probably thinks, "yep, I was right about the sexism, even if I made an ass out of myself when I first said it". Claire's characterization was horribly cliché and sexist, arc and all. She needed a hunky man to make her loosen up and become a badass, which is just as bad as her initial portrayal as a ridiculously uptight female professional. Just because the movie is making a ton of money, it doesn't make Whedon's criticism any less valid, even if making it in the way that he did was in bad taste. Sexism/poor characterization in a movie and box office success are not mutually exclusive of course. Most of Michael Bay's movies are proof of that.
 
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