Superman Returns Kevin Smith's experience with Superman (Returns)

[ToddIsDead]

Awesome. Did he say what he thinks about either? And has he addressed or said what he thought of Batman Begins, yet?

He said that he enjoyed x3, but he really wanted to see what Singer was going to do with it. He really liked the first two X-Men and all of the sub-text and the arcs that Singer had been planting. About Superman, he said that he doesn't think that a movie about a guy that can fly can have that Wow factor that it had back in 1978. He really didn't say a whole lot about Superman Returns though. He did say that he was definitely going to see it, and he's interested. He talked more about the gay allegories that were in Singer's X-Men movies, and how he really liked how Singer was able to bring that to the films, but then that sort of evolved into a huge gay-joke.

And no mention of Batman Begins.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Thanks for the description, bud. One thing I need answered, how did Singer's metaphor to homosexuals become "one big joke"?

 

[ToddIsDead]

It wasn't anything serious, it was just Smith saying that the whole gay subtext thing kind of gradualy came around. In the first, it was pretty hidden, and then in the second it was much more evident, with the whole Bobby Drake scene and everything, and then he said that he expect the third to be all about gay stuff. He then continued with joking descriptions of battles envolving explosions of bodily fluids and penises, lots and lots of penises. It was all very off the cuff, joking kind of stuff though. He did say that he really aprecciated what Singer did with the first two films though.

 

[Whack Arnolds]

Did you get to meet him? I saw him the one time I went to one of those, and there was a huge crowd...so I had no chance of meeting him. But I did see Jay up close. And he looks alot different when I saw him in person. Looked trashy though, just like the character he plays...lol. I wonder if Smith gets tired of appearing at these things?

 

[ToddIsDead]

I didn't get a chance to meet him. I might be able to tomorrow though. He'll be signing and hanging around. I did see Jason Mewes there too. He looked pretty good. Smith said that he's been completely clean and sober for a while and it shows.

 

[Nightwing1977]

i'm sorry....i couldn't resist. hehe.

LMAO!! That's pretty funny. I like the way that boy is screaming like crazy there. It even funnier to see the other boys laughing at him & one of 'em is covering his mouth with his hand.

 

[Matt]

i'm sorry....i couldn't resist. hehe.

Summation:

Solidsnake: EVEN THOUGH KEVIN SMITH MADE A ****TY SCRIPT HE ONLY DID IT TO KEEP FROM IT BEING ****TIER!

Dorkyfresh: OMGZ! PWNED!!!!!!!! HAHAHAH SINGERZ RULZ!!!!!!

...no wonder why good posters like Greengoblin and Scarlet Spidey don't come here anymore.

 

[DorkyFresh]

Dorkyfresh: OMGZ! PWNED!!!!!!!! HAHAHAH SINGERZ RULZ!!!!!!

you got me down perfectly!!! haha!

but you're still nuts for defending Peters.

 

[Matt]

you got me down perfectly!!! haha!

but you're still nuts for defending Peters.

It wasn't so much a defense of Peters but more an attack on Smith.

 

[DorkyFresh]

It wasn't so much a defense of Peters but more an attack on Smith.

changing our stance now, are we?

I don't get all the hate for Peters. Contrary to popular belief...he has never ****ed up a comic book movie.

 

[ultimatefan]

He said that he enjoyed x3, but he really wanted to see what Singer was going to do with it. He really liked the first two X-Men and all of the sub-text and the arcs that Singer had been planting. About Superman, he said that he doesn't think that a movie about a guy that can fly can have that Wow factor that it had back in 1978. He really didn't say a whole lot about Superman Returns though. He did say that he was definitely going to see it, and he's interested. He talked more about the gay allegories that were in Singer's X-Men movies, and how he really liked how Singer was able to bring that to the films, but then that sort of evolved into a huge gay-joke.

And no mention of Batman Begins.

I remember a quote of Smith where he said he wanted his superhero movies to be like Batman Begins, but I don´t know the source.

 

[vanillacyke]

Pretty funny and a good measure of why Superman hasn't been made in the last 20 years - idiot producers, execs and writers:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgYhLIThTvk

This is the greatest thing I've ever seen. I can't remember the last time I laughed like this. Seriously Fantastic. John Peters is an Idiot.

 

[TrailerMusic]

changing our stance now, are we?

They always try to do that when they realize that no one agrees with them at all

 

[SolidSnakeMGS]

Summation:

Solidsnake: EVEN THOUGH KEVIN SMITH MADE A ****TY SCRIPT HE ONLY DID IT TO KEEP FROM IT BEING ****TIER!

Dorkyfresh: OMGZ! PWNED!!!!!!!! HAHAHAH SINGERZ RULZ!!!!!!

...no wonder why good posters like Greengoblin and Scarlet Spidey don't come here anymore.

Wow, how very mature. Typical troll behavior not to actually respond and instead, turn it around into a failed attempt at humor (very failed, btw).

Next time, try to refute the point and provide some argument. It will help maintain the illusion that you're not actually here to be a flame-instigating, biased, negativity-bent troll.

And I don't know who those posters you mentioned are, but your post is a very good example of why some long-term veterans may not post around here anymore.

 

[Matt]

changing our stance now, are we?

Not at all.

My points have been as followed

1) Peters has only produced two comic book movies - Batman and Batman Returns. Neither of which are bad movies.

2) What Peters WOULD have done to Superman cannot be used as a defense to the **** Singer HAS done.

3) Kevin Smith *****es now, but he certainly grabbed his ankles for Peters at the time.

None of which are wrong.

 

[DorkyFresh]

3) Kevin Smith *****es now, but he certainly grabbed his ankles for Peters at the time.

wtf is up with you and the sexual innuendos dude? go take care of your business and come back to the boards after you through with all your dirty @$$ thoughts....dayum!

2) What Peters WOULD have done to Superman cannot be used as a defense to the **** Singer HAS done.

why not? who says? you? you're the ONLY one who's saying that. besides, even if i can't use what Peters WOULD have done as a defense, that's okay...

...BECAUSE AT LEAST SINGER'S PROJECT IS BEING COMPLETED WITH OPEN ARMS!!! i can't say the same for Peters...his ideas were so horrible it didn't even make it to production...

 

[Showtime]

Not at all.

My points have been as followed

1) Peters has only produced two comic book movies - Batman and Batman Returns. Neither of which are bad movies.

2) What Peters WOULD have done to Superman cannot be used as a defense to the **** Singer HAS done.

3) Kevin Smith *****es now, but he certainly grabbed his ankles for Peters at the time.

None of which are wrong.

Just wanted to point out that the only fact you have listed is that Batman and Batman Returns are the only comic book movies produced by Peters.

You are posting that none of your points are wrong but the rest of them are opinions and opinions can always be wrong.

 

[Captain Kirk]

Singer has a far better grasp of who Superman is and what he stands for than Peters. Singer's Returns film will be his best superhero epic yet. It'll confirm WB's faith in allowing Singer to be the one to restore Superman to the big screen! SR will be successful!

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

I would have loved to have seen what smith would have written if it wasn't for that ass peters.

 

[Captain Kirk]

I would have loved to have seen what smith would have written if it wasn't for that ass peters.

Agreed !

 

[Matt]

I would have loved to have seen what smith would have written if it wasn't for that ass peters.

Smith constantly brags about the 80 page treatment he wrote...yet he never shows it...hmm...wonder why.

 

[Matt]

Just wanted to point out that the only fact you have listed is that Batman and Batman Returns are the only comic book movies produced by Peters.

You are posting that none of your points are wrong but the rest of them are opinions and opinions can always be wrong.

Yes, they are. You cannot debate tangibles with "What ifs".

Second, Smith stayed on the project and was plenty content until the day Burton fired him. Only afterwards did he start to ***** about Peters. That is also a fact.

 

[ROBOCOP CPU001]

Smith constantly brags about the 80 page treatment he wrote...yet he never shows it...hmm...wonder why.

perhaps its owned by the Wb?

any stretch i would love to see what he did..

it certainly wouldn't have giant spiders in it... and that 80 page was just the outline.

 

[Matt]

wtf is up with you and the sexual innuendos dude? go take care of your business and come back to the boards after you through with all your dirty @$$ thoughts....dayum!

its an expression, the only one taking it literally is you. Nice try, though.

why not? who says? you? you're the ONLY one who's saying that. besides, even if i can't use what Peters WOULD have done as a defense, that's okay...

...BECAUSE AT LEAST SINGER'S PROJECT IS BEING COMPLETED WITH OPEN ARMS!!! i can't say the same for Peters...his ideas were so horrible it didn't even make it to production...

The majority is always right...I forgot. Lets not forget, the majority of Germany elected Hitler. The majority of idiots keep seeing Rob Schneider movies and getting them made...and the current idiot is in office because of the majority.

 

[Matt]

perhaps its owned by the Wb?

any stretch i would love to see what he did..

it certainly wouldn't have giant spiders in it... and that 80 page was just the outline.

An outline wouldn't be 80 pages.