The Dark Knight Rises Killer Croc

How can it feel like its right in the middle when its only Batman's first year? All those plot lines explore how the city would react to his appearence and how he is handling things as an inexperienced vigilante. How in the world is that in the middle of the story?
Because I'm not basing it off of comic accuracy. If you take it as a self-contained story, you have the introduction and establishment of the hero in the first film/act, and the deconstruction of him in the second, leaving a third for resolution. It doesn't have to be a 10-year story or what have you. Not that a third movie should end with Batman dying, but the overall arc of these chapters is naturally coming to a coda, just like the end of a graphic novel ends that story, but doesn't end Batman.

Why? People love batman and nolan and they want more. Its usually 3-4 years between each film so the audience isnt oversaturated with Batman. So what is your problem man? Let the rest of us enjoy our batman and watch the movies whenever you are ready.
It's not a problem I have with the movies....quite the contrary...it's because they are as good as they are that less is more. I just feel that as movies, they should represent a part of their era that came in and left on their own terms and didn't drag out too long, as I would with any good film. To me, that's more important than covering all the comic bases/characters. You have a chance for these pictures to stand as specialty items, instead of the start of a commodity. I think people will be fine taking a break from Batman and seeing what other characters are out there, then eventually seeing Batman again later on when he does restart. It'll help things feel fresher and newer again.
 
I wouldnt have a problem if it was like Harry Potter, a big story spanning over multiple movies. The creative team can change every now and then but the story could keep going.
And hey, the HP movies are loved by fans around the world, so i dont see why this couldnt happen with Batman.
 
I wouldnt have a problem if it was like Harry Potter, a big story spanning over multiple movies. The creative team can change every now and then but the story could keep going.
And hey, the HP movies are loved by fans around the world, so i dont see why this couldnt happen with Batman.
I'm not saying it can't either. I just feel that less is more when it comes to films, despite the incentive to capitalize further with more installments. Some people prefer to have fewer children than more. But if you look at how the Alien films went...Cameron did a great job with his after Scott, but as they went along under different takes while still holding to the continuity, it hurt them as a 'series' overall. Yes, there's a lot more to draw from in terms of comic stories, but trying to maintain the continuity will more than likely become a limitation the further along they go....and the plots will become more 'episodic' like a TV show, which again, takes away from the 'special event' aspect of films. Fine in concept for a Batman fan, which I understand, but I'd rather that those efforts and resources be put into coming out with new things/films/adaptations along the way. then after that 'break', Batmamn will be that much more 'refreshing', if you will, than something that's been there the whole time.

Again, we just prefer different things...you want more Batman movies, and I just prefer more variety in films. I also think the genre overall has gotten a bit too saturated as well, but that's a different conversation.
 
I proposed continuining the franchise on the basis that they keep putting thought and research to it and not turn it into another Transformers franchise.
And since Batman is only in his first year, i am sure that there is a ton of material that they havent touched, simply because its too early for them. His relationship with Gordon through time, adopting Robin, falling in love with Catwoman and how that love and Catwoman herself evolve through time, other heroes stepping in his city, Superman, Bullock, other villains, the reappearence of Ras and Talia, etc.
Why would you want them to stop now?
 
I proposed continuining the franchise on the basis that they keep putting thought and research to it and not turn it into another Transformers franchise.
And since Batman is only in his first year, i am sure that there is a ton of material that they havent touched, simply because its too early for them. His relationship with Gordon through time, adopting Robin, falling in love with Catwoman and how that love and Catwoman herself evolve through time, other heroes stepping in his city, Superman, Bullock, other villains, the reappearence of Ras and Talia, etc.
Why would you want them to stop now?

Because, as I said before, for me it's not about what else there is to cover that hasn't been covered. I feel that the particular story presented to us is nearing its climax...like a graphic novel would, instead of just becoming the main ongoing periodical comics. I like it as that kind of condensed, self-contained package...and if it doesn't include certain aspects, there's still plenty of other places to get that. I think that approach makes better use of the feature film format and it's how these pieces are done, rather than stretching out the films to accommodate more characters or try to cover all there is.

If they want to approach the films as an ongoing continuity over 4+ movies and such, then they should start it over in that way and have the installments be more like TV/Miniseries episodes...where one could be a day-in-the-life, or have bigger plots over longer timelines that we see in pieces with each installment, etc.
 
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I proposed continuining the franchise on the basis that they keep putting thought and research to it and not turn it into another Transformers franchise

I think that would be cool, its just that Nolan is a type of director who wouldn't do a HP like franchise. And if he goes, then Bale, Oldman and Caine go with him, leaving us with another Shumacher
 
Because, as I said before, for me it's not about what else there is to cover that hasn't been covered. I feel that the particular story presented to us is nearing its climax...like a graphic novel would, instead of just becoming the main ongoing periodical comics. I like it as that kind of condensed, self-contained package...and if it doesn't include certain aspects, there's still plenty of other places to get that. I think that approach makes better use of the feature film format and it's how these pieces are done, rather than stretching out the films to accommodate more characters or try to cover all there is.
But what you re saying could be done. I assume you ve read some comics so look at "Heart of Hush" for example. A series of 4-5 issues with one arc which is contained in the wider continuity. The same with B:RIP, No man's land, Death in the family, Long Halloween, etc. So in the same way, Nolan's 3 movies could be one package about Batman's beginning, how he started, how he affected the city and so on. Then another director could do 1, maybe two or 3 movies about a different issue. Let's say about Bruce descending deeper into his obsession. Whatever.
And in any case, i dont care if Nolan's movies are self contained, or if another director destroys his work. For all i know, he could do it himself in B3.
If they want to approach the films as an ongoing continuity over 4+ movies and such, then they should start it over in that way and have the installments be more like TV/Miniseries episodes...where one could be a day-in-the-life, or have bigger plots over longer timelines that we see in pieces with each installment, etc.
I dont see why we have to bring another director to do something different when there is so much more to be done. Why would i want to see Snyder adapt TDKR page by ****ing page, why would i want a gore's gallore by Tarantino, a black and white movie with some coloured details and ****es by Miller, or a movie by Shyamalan that ends up with Batman being his parents killer all along?

I dont want other people doing elseworlds stories or tackling the same things with different direction methods. I want to see what happens to bruce.

But what i really, really, really dont get is why we have to wait quite a while until that happens. The public loves batman, and he is DC's only successful movie franchise right now. Why not give the people what they want? Why wait? If people get bored of it, then the ticket sales will drop and they will take longer to make the next one, in order to think it through more. What the hell is your problem if we get the next movie in 3 years? Why waiting equals a better movie? Have you seen S:Returns?

And the reason i dont want a TV series is that they have a certain modus operandi. They would shoot in 5-6 different sets with people walking in to spit out their dialogue, then progress to the next set to spit out some more. The limited budget will also affect the action scenes which will be mediocre and the need for 20 episodes each season will make them stretch the plots too far and destroy any ties to continuity, logic or good taste. Look at Smallville and what a travesty it is.

In any case, i really dont get your position. What is your problem if we get a good movie every 3 years? As i said, longer intervals dont mean better movies. And if you feel you will get bored of Batman, just stay away, i wont.
I think that would be cool, its just that Nolan is a type of director who wouldn't do a HP like franchise. And if he goes, then Bale, Oldman and Caine go with him, leaving us with another Shumacher
Nolan has already done a few bat movies and i am pretty sure that after a potential third he will walk away for fear of becoming stale or getting stereotyped as the batman director.
But he could be instructed to leave the door open for someone to take over after him instead of giving B3 a finite ending.
 
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Just get Michael Clarke Duncan for Croc. I dont care if he played Kingpin,he is just too good to pass up.

Michael's voice is prefect for Croc, I guess if he wore a suit that looked like Killer Croc it could work .

However I can't see Nolan using Croc in his realistic world of Batman . Nor do I see Croc working story wise following the events of TDK .
 
Michael's voice is prefect for Croc, I guess if he wore a suit that looked like Killer Croc it could work .

However I can't see Nolan using Croc in his realistic world of Batman . Nor do I see Croc working story wise following the events of TDK .

I think he could possibly work. Especially if he's muscle for a main villain.
 
I think a Nolan-esque Croc could look like the toy I posted a link to in the first post in this thread, if Croc has a combination of a severe skin condition and extreme body modification to make himself look more reptillian. There's the tiger man I posted a link to a few pages back, and there's also the Lizardman (you can find more pictures on him on Google Images, just type in tattooed lizard man). That way, we could get a Croc that's rooted in reality and yet still maintains a reptillian appearance without being being too removed from reality.
 
But what you re saying could be done. I assume you ve read some comics so look at "Heart of Hush" for example. A series of 4-5 issues with one arc which is contained in the wider continuity. The same with B:RIP, No man's land, Death in the family, Long Halloween, etc.
Yeah, but movies don't have a more constant running periodical version like regular comics do....a bloodline that feeds the majority of people that they're making their money with every month. Those graphic novels capitalize on that sole consumer group that buy those comics every month. Movies can't do that because there's not just one character that they can keep putting stuff out for every month, then guarantee that the specialty item will make their money with them. They can only put out that expensive specialty item and hope that as many people from all walks of life will buy it in a limited amount of time...and they also can't make their money with advertising frequency like TV and periodicals do. They're not going to create a film department solely for Batman movies with the intent of getting another one out every two years...feature films cost too much and take too much time for that to be feasible. Each one is an all-in, one-shot-deal in its own right that has one fleeting chance to make the time/investment worth it, which also makes the storytelling so condensed and selective.

So in the same way, Nolan's 3 movies could be one package about Batman's beginning, how he started, how he affected the city and so on. Then another director could do 1, maybe two or 3 movies about a different issue. Let's say about Bruce descending deeper into his obsession. Whatever.
Another filmmaker could still just do that with his own continuity, though, and they don't have to pick up right after Nolan's. It's too long of a movie series to do 6+ of them or so as a package. Put some space in between the groups, and let each group focus on what they want to/how they want to do it, but not have to be connected to eachother in continuity. And yes, I do think audiences will get tired of Batman if you keep churning them out past three....you lose the novelty of it, and audiemces will naturally be wanting to move onto something else. Better to give them some time away, then it's more fresh when they come back in and there's more buzz about the time.

And in any case, i dont care if Nolan's movies are self contained, or if another director destroys his work. For all i know, he could do it himself in B3.
Then they really will need some time away to wash that bad taste out anyway, like with B&R. Just look at films as limited edition releases, rather than constant periodicals. That relative rarity is part of the experience that separates features from serials and TV.


How about this instead....how about a 2-season, 12-1hr-episode cable miniseries that covers as many characters/storylines as possible. It'll have more time to cover more bases, but all-in-all it'll still be a limited-edition event....like HBO's Rome. That way, you get the best of both worlds.
 
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Skin condition? What skin condition? In this page from the recent "Battle for the Cowl" Croc seems like the reptilian counterpart of Manbat. I like this better than the realistic version of a man with a skin condition.
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Skin condition? What skin condition? In this page from the recent "Battle for the Cowl" Croc seems like the reptilian counterpart of Manbat. I like this better than the realistic version of a man with a skin condition.
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I really like that look for Croc and think it can be done in a Nolan Batman film. He looks like he can easily have a severe skin problem with that appearance.
 
This is only a suggestion so.

There is a wrestler named Waylon "Killer Croc" Jones who kills with his bare hands who's been hired to kill the Batman.
 
Give this man
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this disease

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Not as extreme as the lady though. ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK.
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He should also have several tattoos and red contacts to enhance his horrific appearance.
 
You know 3rd picture is disgusting. :dry:


And I'm not gonna click on last picture either.
 
Killer croc is a one-dimensional character at best. Don't see him as a fit in a Nolan movie.
 
Give him a few minutes worth of good scenes...then the rest a cannabilistic massacre,lol.
 
That's why he'd work great as a body guard for someone like Penguin.

Based on what we know of the character from the comics I would say not only would he not be a great bodyguard but I think he would refuse to be anybody's bodyguard.

However, if you want to have him just for the sake of seeing him in the movie then making him a major villian's bodyguard would be the way to do it.
 
I Agree, I think that Croc should be the leader of the new "freaks" gang that has came to Gotham because of the Joker.

Here is a couple of ideas for who could play him:

For a black Killer Croc...Terry Crews,

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If they want a White guy, Nathan Jones (the big guy from Troy)

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Just a couple of new names thrown into the mix...what do you think????
 

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