Killzone 2 showing straight after MS E3 Keynote, July 10th

[WhatsHisFace]

Uh, why was your post deleted?

Time to go to... our secret place?

 

[Purple Prancer]

Seriously....twaddlecock? OF ALL THINGS?

To keep this post relevant to the thread and safe from Zenien's tear-filled cries for help, I like how it seems Guerilla has toned down the gray and added more brown lately.

 

[Devil May Cry]

Second link doesn't work? I'll try to find some kind of mirror.

But it says that some parts of the game were complete when the trailer hit and some were in alpha. Some aspects will look better than the target and some will be "damn close."


What else has Guerrilla done to make them have the worst track record? Killzone 1 was a 7. If the framerate was better, it would have been an 8. Liberation was awesome. What else have they made? Give them a chance. Moreover, SCEE, SCEA are both working on the game with them. There's hope there. I just hope...


A. They fix that A.I.
B. They have a good co-op
C. Multiplayer maps are good
D. It isn't rushed


It can come out early '09 if I care. It doesn't need to compete with Resistance, which, ironically, seems further along.

 

[WhatsHisFace]

Seriously....twaddlecock? OF ALL THINGS?

To keep this post relevant to the thread and safe from Zenien's tear-filled cries for help, I like how it seems Guerilla has toned down the gray and added more brown lately.

I also like how we haven't seen gameplay in a year. Always a good sign.

 

[Havok83]

I don't know how many chances we're supposed to give Guerrilla before they finally prove how crappy they are. It's the same deal as Heavenly Sword. Giving a crappy team LOADS of money still gets you a crappy game.

HS was not a crappy game.

I really havent followed Killzone 2 much, so I cant give much of an opinion but with as much money thats been throw at it, it better be damn good

 

[Purple Prancer]

Hs wasn't crappy. It was ****.

 

[GFreeman]

It got a 7 on the 7-10 scale they use for hyped games.

 

[Zenien]

Zenien, Guerrilla has THE worst track record with games EVER.

1 bad game, 1 ok but underwhelming game, and one great game. That's at least showing an improvement.

 

[hippy fascist]

1 bad game, 1 ok but underwhelming game, and one great game. That's at least showing an improvement.

Killzone liberation was created by a different team to killzone 1

However the team that made killzone 1 will be developing killzone 2, you said so yourself

Any improvement was a result of an entirely different team working on the game

So guerilla, in their infinite wisdom, take the team that made all the improvements and cast them aside in favour of the morons that screwed everything up first time around

Based on the devs alone this is significantly more likely to be the same standard as the first game rather than the second

 

[hippy fascist]

HS was not a crappy game.

Correct, it was half an average game

I really havent followed Killzone 2 much, so I cant give much of an opinion but with as much money thats been throw at it, it better be damn good

for sony's sake, this much is true. However you should know by now that money is no replacement for talent.

 

[Zenien]

Killzone liberation was created by a different team to killzone 1

However the team that made killzone 1 will be developing killzone 2, you said so yourself

Any improvement was a result of an entirely different team working on the game

So guerilla, in their infinite wisdom, take the team that made all the improvements and cast them aside in favour of the morons that screwed everything up first time around

Based on the devs alone this is significantly more likely to be the same standard as the first game rather than the second

Like I've said before, the Liberation was ade up of both people from the deceased Shellshock Team and the Core Killzone Team. Teampy, who posts at Neogaf, talked about this. Basically once Liberationwas complete, the Liberation team was reabsorbed into the Core KZ team to work on KZ2.

As for any improvement resulting in a different tea working on the gae, that would be entirely false.

I mean seriously, first off the team has been able to learn from Killzone 1, an what worked and didn't work. Secondly, since Killzone 1, the team, and Guerilla themselves, have been massively revised and expanded. They were independent when they made Killzone, they're now a wholey owned subsidiary of Sony, and have had a large influx of new people into the team in the ramp up for Killzone 2.

Heck the E3 reveal alone, showed that the game none of the technical problems that marred KZ1. That's one major hurtle down.

Sure it's 'the same team who worked on Killzone 1' but it's a very different team when compred to the KZ team tat made KZ1, and Sony wouldn't be sinking all this money into them for nothing. Technological they're clearly absurdly talented, and finally have a system that has enough power for the kind of things they want to do.

I know it's going to eat a lot of people up inside to see KZ2 be a good game, but that's very likely the outcome of all this.

 

[Havok83]

It got a 7 on the 7-10 scale they use for hyped games.

It actually has an average of 81% at Gamerankings. 49 reviews at 8 or better and only 16 lower. That hardly makes for a game thats crap. It was a good game and the reason why most reviews scored it lower was bc of its short length which was a problem. For the 5-6 hours that the game was, it was pretty good as far as gameplay, story and art direction went. They just really needed to have expanded it bc it wasnt nearly long enough

 

[GFreeman]

Are you serious? Dude, nobody uses gamerankings anymore, come on, step it up a little bit. Have you seen the trash they factor into those averages?

 

[DoomRulz]

Are you serious? Dude, nobody uses gamerankings anymore, come on, step it up a little bit. Have you seen the trash they factor into those averages?

http://www.metacritic.com/games/platforms/ps3/heavenlysword?q=heavenly sword

Happy?

 

[블라스]

He is never happy

 

[hippy fascist]

It actually has an average of 81% at Gamerankings. 49 reviews at 8 or better and only 16 lower. That hardly makes for a game thats crap. It was a good game and the reason why most reviews scored it lower was bc of its short length which was a problem. For the 5-6 hours that the game was, it was pretty good as far as gameplay, story and art direction went. They just really needed to have expanded it bc it wasnt nearly long enough

Havok, come on man, you usually come across as fairly intelligent.

This sony apologist crap just makes you seem kinda slow. The game was good for five hours therefore it's a good game?????

Playtime IS a factor in the quality of a game. A game that gives you 20+ of great entertainment is worthy of an 85-90

5-6 hours on the other hand is barely worth 50%

BECAUSE IT'S ONLY HALF A GAME

(and half of that 5-6 hours was spent on those ******ed minigames)

 

[블라스]

God of War >>>> HS.

I was playing GoW2 last night and it's better than a lot of current gen games. I can't wait for the 3rd. one.

 

[hippy fascist]

It's not bad, definately better than heavenly sword, but certainly not worth all the AMAZING reviews it's had.

I'd put it somewhere between 75%-80%

 

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[hippy fascist]

I hope your 360 RRODs

 

[블라스]

I'm hoping for that too! That way I can take it to the repair shop and fix it for good, not to mention to install the talismoon fans, so you never get a rrod again, and makes the 360 quieter to boot. 100% guaranteed with lifetime warranty.
Thanks for the good wishes!

 

[hippy fascist]

damn your positive outlook

 

[블라스]

Sorry

 

[hippy fascist]

peace offering?

Spoiler

 

[블라스]

You had me at "Hello"