Let's Make The Marijuana Thread Again!

[Charlatan]

How about he reschedule cannabis tomorrow then we can all focus on other matters.

that's up to congress not the executive.

 

[chaseter]

Um.plenty of legalization advocates point out increased tax revenue, various medical use, industrial use (hemp), racially biased enforcement of drug laws, less strain on the criminal justice system, the hypocrisy of allowing alcohol but not cannabis, etc.

Personal freedom is just one of the arguments made by legalization activists.

Wasn't referencing the articulate, well thought out, poignant advocates. I'm not opposed to legalization. Saying you just want to have fun and cops are ruining your life because you can't follow laws is a stoner's message...akin to an alcoholic. No one listens to an alcoholic and no one will listen to a stoner that just wants to have fun. Kick those people out of your movement. They fulfill stereotypes.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Having fun isn't a reason. You ruin your own life if you don't follow laws...not cops. Come on....

This is the problem with weed legalization...it needs better messaging. Health benefits need to be outlined. Decrease costs through less jail expenses need to be outlined. More tax revenue needs to be outlined. Focus your messaging stoners.

Recreational use is most definitely a reason, because people are doing it without harming themselves or anyone else so they shouldn't be reprimanded for it. It's not a matter of not following the laws, it's a matter of the law itself being severely imperfect for keeping this drug illegal. Whatever bodily harm marijuana does to one's self....hasn't it been proven that alcohol does much worse?

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Wasn't referencing the articulate, well thought out, poignant advocates. I'm not opposed to legalization. Saying you just want to have fun and cops are ruining your life because you can't follow laws is a stoner's message...akin to an alcoholic. No one listens to an alcoholic and no one will listen to a stoner that just wants to have fun. Kick those people out of your movement. They fulfill stereotypes.

alcoholism is its own problem, but, people can drink in the comfort of their home and they're not breaking any laws. People can smoke weed in the comfort of their homes but they're breaking the law.

 

[chaseter]

Recreation isn't enough to warrant passage for years and years to come. You need societal benefits to warrant passage sooner...at the national level. No one is going to listen to the pot heads as I've said...especially the old people in power. Woe is me cop stories and I want to feel good in my basement aren't good enough reasons or a rallying cause to get passage.

 

[chaseter]

alcoholism is its own problem, but, people can drink in the comfort of their home and they're not breaking any laws. People can smoke weed in the comfort of their homes but they're breaking the law.

Not in all states.

Federal, yes....still illegal. That's where my change point comes in. Fight for change but not the way you presented that I replied to.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Recreation isn't enough to warrant passage for years and years to come. You need societal benefits to warrant passage sooner...at the national level. No one is going to listen to the pot heads as I've said...especially the old people in power. Woe is me cop stories and I want to feel good in my basement aren't good enough reasons or a rallying cause to get passage.

I get what you're saying. My only point is that it shouldn't even be illegal in the first place, considering a drug that is more harmful, is 100% legal. Besides, there aren't really any health or societal benefits involved in the legality of alcohol, is there? It was made legal forcibly and purely for recreational use.

And while cops spend time looking to ruin potheads' days and lives, they could be spending that time looking for actual, serious crimes being committed. Including but not limited to more harmful drugs.

Not in all states.

Federal, yes....still illegal. That's where my change point comes in. Fight for change but not the way you presented that I replied to.

No matter how many states legalize it, it is still illegal by federal law. In my opinion though it is embarrassing how this has to be a fight at all because it should not be illegal. It really does not make ANY sense to me why it is in the first place.

I should really go and watch that documentary that mordin posted.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

that's up to congress not the executive.

AG Eric Holder can also reschedule cannabis so Obama could easily make it happen.

 

[DarkSentinel]

Ugh...do any of you have those "fiending friends"? You know, the ones who ALWAYS ask you if you can get some or if you have any? My assistant manager at my store is like that and I keep on trying to explain to the guy that I'm trying to stop so I can get a car and save my money etc., but he keeps asking about EVERY time I work with him. It's getting really annoying.

 

[Moridin]

http://www.fairobserver.com/region/...tion-promotes-public-health-and-safety-54087/

The question is not whether we should legally regulate cannabis, but how and when.

The issue of cannabis legalization has moved decisively from the margins to the mainstream of political debate. Over recent years, Uruguay and four US states, as well as Washington DC, have decided to legalize cannabis for non-medical use, becoming the first jurisdictions in the world ever to do so. As these reforms demonstrate, there is now a growing recognition that the prohibition of cannabis is a counterproductive failure and that alternative approaches should be explored.

http://www.fairobserver.com/region/...tion-promotes-public-health-and-safety-54087/

Excellent write-up^^.

Does anyone have a problem with requesting a merger of this and the Legalization thread? Having two threads with the same articles crossposted seems redundant. Maybe change the title to 'The Cannabis Reform and Discussion thread'?

I suggest that last because some advocates feel the term marijuana has too many negative connotations and prefer the scientific term, although personally I don't mind either one. I believe it's been mentioned by a few other posters here as well.

I had an idea for this. What if we keep this the all inclusive "Cannabis Reform and Discussion thread", and change the other thread in the Politics forum to a discussion on the legalisation of ALL drugs?

There's so much info coming out on the therapeutic benefits of substances like DMT, MDMA (Ecstasy), Psilocybin (Magic Mushrooms), Ketamine, etc. for things like Depression & PTSD, among other ailments, I think it's going to be the next wave of legalisation after Cannabis.

Having fun isn't a reason. You ruin your own life if you don't follow laws...not cops. Come on....

This is the problem with weed legalization...it needs better messaging. Health benefits need to be outlined. Decrease costs through less jail expenses need to be outlined. More tax revenue needs to be outlined. Focus your messaging stoners.

All of that has been gone over in this thread many times, and actual pro-legalisation groups like NORML, DPA, SSPD & others espouse those points, too.

Stop picking out individual posts & using them to generalise a group of people, and stop with the condescending "duh, you stoners are stoopid" attitude.

"you don't follow the law" - Horses#!t. Unjust laws need to be challenged & broken. It wasn't so long ago that Homosexuality was illegal & punishable by imprisonment, should people have followed that law? Personal freedom is absolutely a legitimate reason for legalisation, alongside all the other reasons.

Also no, simple use of drugs don't automatically lead to ruining ones life, so lets drop the drug use = drug abuse. Addicts are a minority in the drug using population.

Ugh...do any of you have those "fiending friends"? You know, the ones who ALWAYS ask you if you can get some or if you have any? My assistant manager at my store is like that and I keep on trying to explain to the guy that I'm trying to stop so I can get a car and save my money etc., but he keeps asking about EVERY time I work with him. It's getting really annoying.

Roundhouse-kick him in the face, he'll stop asking pretty quickly

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EDIT:
Another UN agency savages the drug war

"As various UN organizations have observed, these efforts have had harmful collateral consequences: creating a criminal black market; fuelling corruption, violence, and instability; threatening public health and safety; generating large-scale human rights abuses, including abusive and inhumane punishments; and discrimination and marginalization of people who use drugs, indigenous peoples, women, and youth".

In light of these “collateral” harms caused by enforcement-led drug policies, the UNDP argues that “new approaches are both urgent and necessary,” and highlights how the decriminalisation of personal drug possession is permissible under the UN conventions, and has been successfully implemented in a number of UN member states.


the UN Office on Drugs and Crime – the agency responsible for enforcing repressive, prohibitionist drug policies worldwide – is among multiple UN bodies that have emphasised the vast harms caused by the current enforcement apporaches to drugs. The UNODC previously acknowledged (PDF) many of these “unintended consequences” as far back as 2008, and its recently updated website puts the scale of the problem in even starker terms, stating:

“Global drug control efforts have had a dramatic unintended consequence: a criminal black market of staggering proportions. Organized crime is a threat to security. Criminal organizations have the power to destabilize society and Governments. The illicit drug business is worth billions of dollars a year, part of which is used to corrupt government officials and to poison economies.

“Drug cartels are spreading violence in Central America, Mexico and the Caribbean. West Africa is under attack from narco-trafficking. Collusion between insurgents and criminal groups threatens the stability of West Asia, the Andes and parts of Africa, fuelling the trade in smuggled weapons, the plunder of natural resources and piracy.”


The UNDP says it's ready to collaborate with other UN bodies to address the drugs issue, and this is essential if the international community is to move past a simplistic, enforcement-led strategy and recognise the multifaceted and complex nature of drug policy.

http://www.tdpf.org.uk/blog/another-un-agency-savages-drug-war

 

[DarkSentinel]

Ok I think in the good-natured spirit of fun that a thread like this must surely have, I dare y'all to smoke and watch Spirit Science.

EDIT: Link won't work.

 

[chaseter]

All of that has been gone over in this thread many times, and actual pro-legalisation groups like NORML, DPA, SSPD & others espouse those points, too.

Good. It should be repeated ad nauseum. That will win the fight to cause reform. Education is the best tool.

Stop picking out individual posts & using them to generalise a group of people, and stop with the condescending "duh, you stoners are stoopid" attitude.

I'm not generalizing the group, I'm pointing out strays. Those should be culled from the herd....otherwise they bring the group down. Shape up or ship out.

All stoners are stupid. If you need weed in your life everyday, you waste thousands of dollars a year on weed, you spend a lot of time in doors in a hazy room watching cartoons, and/or you live with your parents and light up daily...those are the stereotypical stoners and those people are idiots akin to alcoholics or drug abusers. Same symptoms, different substance. When marijuana is your life, then you have personal issues. I have no problems calling those people stoopid. I haven't called anyone here stupid so stop with the defensiveness. When you come home from a bad day at work and are stressed so you light up, more power to you.

"you don't follow the law" - Horses#!t. Unjust laws need to be challenged & broken. It wasn't so long ago that Homosexuality was illegal & punishable by imprisonment, should people have followed that law? Personal freedom is absolutely a legitimate reason for legalisation, alongside all the other reasons.

Lol at the attempt to equate weed to Civil Rights.

Also no, simple use of drugs don't automatically lead to ruining ones life, so lets drop the drug use = drug abuse. Addicts are a minority in the drug using population.

A pothead is the same as an alcoholic. Their lives revolve around their substance of choice. While marijuana may not have addictive additives like cigarettes or meth, it does affect the brain's chemistry which can lead to addiction. Some people are addicted to chocolate...it's because it releases serotonin. Someone who weighs 500lbs because they eat 1lb of chocolate everyday has a problem...just like the stoner or the alcoholic. Yeah they are in the minority, no one said otherwise. The problem with a movement is the abusers become the poster child for the opposition. Remember Occupy Wallstreet? Did they show the suit and tie protestors? No...they showed the drum circle hippies and the smelly weirdos. Why? Because they detract from the movement and the news is owned by corporations and the wealthy. Occupy Wallstreet made zero movement. Distance yourselves from the stoners or tell them to focus. I have no dog in this fight so I don't care what happens...just dishing out the awful truth. Otherwise it's just a drum circle.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Thank God for chaseter and his high horse. This thread desperately needed someone of superior moral standing to come in and pronounce judgment on the lesser folk.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Ugh...do any of you have those "fiending friends"? You know, the ones who ALWAYS ask you if you can get some or if you have any? My assistant manager at my store is like that and I keep on trying to explain to the guy that I'm trying to stop so I can get a car and save my money etc., but he keeps asking about EVERY time I work with him. It's getting really annoying.

is he just mooching off of you? make him throw down then if that's what he's doing to you.

I had an idea for this. What if we keep this the all inclusive "Cannabis Reform and Discussion thread", and change the other thread in the Politics forum to a discussion on the legalisation of ALL drugs?

There's so much info coming out on the therapeutic benefits of substances like DMT, MDMA (Ecstasy), Psilocybin (Magic Mushrooms), Ketamine, etc. for things like Depression & PTSD, among other ailments, I think it's going to be the next wave of legalisation after Cannabis.

as I've stated numerous times, I named the thread as such so that the title would be in line with the alcohol thread. so I would agree to this only IF, we keep the thread title to marijuana thread. or better yet, after we change the other thread to legalization of all drugs (for the record that's sounds completely crazy to me), we merge together the alcohol thread with the marijuana thread to have a turnt megathread.

Ok I think in the good-natured spirit of fun that a thread like this must surely have, I dare y'all to smoke and watch Spirit Science.

EDIT: Link won't work.

huh? is this a youtube link?

Good. It should be repeated ad nauseum. That will win the fight to cause reform. Education is the best tool.

I'm not generalizing the group, I'm pointing out strays. Those should be culled from the herd....otherwise they bring the group down. Shape up or ship out.

All stoners are stupid. If you need weed in your life everyday, you waste thousands of dollars a year on weed, you spend a lot of time in doors in a hazy room watching cartoons, and/or you live with your parents and light up daily...those are the stereotypical stoners and those people are idiots akin to alcoholics or drug abusers. Same symptoms, different substance. When marijuana is your life, then you have personal issues. I have no problems calling those people stoopid. I haven't called anyone here stupid so stop with the defensiveness. When you come home from a bad day at work and are stressed so you light up, more power to you.

these are all colloquial terms, so I should ask, to you, does stoner=pothead?

one of the most brilliant people I ever met had a 4.0 when I knew him in college, and he was the person who got me into this stuff and does it way more than I ever had. so you can't possibly be right in saying all stoners/potheads/whatever are stupid.

Lol at the attempt to equate weed to Civil Rights.

I wondered if someone would say something like this.

Easy misconception. It's not about equating weed legalization to civil rights. it's about pointing out how flawed the law is. If we were living in the early 20th century and a black person was complaining about getting arrested for trying to use a designated white person bathroom, would it be just to say "well that's your fault, you broke the law by going in the wrong bathroom."

the law was flawed then, and it certainly is flawed now. those who use marijuana responsibly and moderately, objectively speaking are not doing anything wrong or any harm.

A pothead is the same as an alcoholic. Their lives revolve around their substance of choice. While marijuana may not have addictive additives like cigarettes or meth, it does affect the brain's chemistry which can lead to addiction. Some people are addicted to chocolate...it's because it releases serotonin. Someone who weighs 500lbs because they eat 1lb of chocolate everyday has a problem...just like the stoner or the alcoholic. Yeah they are in the minority, no one said otherwise. The problem with a movement is the abusers become the poster child for the opposition. Remember Occupy Wallstreet? Did they show the suit and tie protestors? No...they showed the drum circle hippies and the smelly weirdos. Why? Because they detract from the movement and the news is owned by corporations and the wealthy. Occupy Wallstreet made zero movement. Distance yourselves from the stoners or tell them to focus. I have no dog in this fight so I don't care what happens...just dishing out the awful truth. Otherwise it's just a drum circle.

that certainly is a problem but, alcohol is legal. I'm not disagreeing with your point here but those who are the marijuana equivalent of alcoholics (I don't the colloquial term pothead is right) don't even have it as bad as alcoholics - BUT ALCOHOL is allowed to be consumed by the right age and setting without legal repercussions.

Thank God for chaseter and his high horse. This thread desperately needed someone of superior moral standing to come in and pronounce judgment on the lesser folk.

 

[chaseter]

Thank God for chaseter and his high horse. This thread desperately needed someone of superior moral standing to come in and pronounce judgment on the lesser folk.

I love responding to really not so smart posts by people. It's my job here.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

How much would it cost to get you to stop posting entirely?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

All stoners are stupid. If you need weed in your life everyday, you waste thousands of dollars a year on weed, you spend a lot of time in doors in a hazy room watching cartoons, and/or you live with your parents and light up daily...those are the stereotypical stoners and those people are idiots akin to alcoholics or drug abusers. Same symptoms, different substance. When marijuana is your life, then you have personal issues. I have no problems calling those people stoopid. I haven't called anyone here stupid so stop with the defensiveness. When you come home from a bad day at work and are stressed so you light up, more power to you.

This is a ridiculous statement.

There are all kinds of stoners. Stoners who live like hippies. Stoners who head households. Stoners who have sophisticated grow operations. Stoners with white collar jobs. Stoners going to college for very difficult degrees.

There are stoners who smarter than yourself.

A quantum physicist who smokes weed daily isn't going to suddenly be forced into a job bagging groceries. He or she is still highly intelligent.

Weed is not booze and it's not crack. Weed actually improves activities like cooking, eating, hiking, sex, sports, showers, chores, painting, etc.

Considering how much more enjoyable dull activities are after smoking weed it would dumber NOT to smoke on a regular basis.

Lol at the attempt to equate weed to Civil Rights.

Millions of people have been arrested for weed. That's millions of lives derailed or destroyed because of plant less harmful than alcohol.

Last time I checked millions of people weren't arrested for being black or gay.

A pothead is the same as an alcoholic. Their lives revolve around their substance of choice. While marijuana may not have addictive additives like cigarettes or meth, it does affect the brain's chemistry which can lead to addiction. Some people are addicted to chocolate...it's because it releases serotonin. Someone who weighs 500lbs because they eat 1lb of chocolate everyday has a problem...just like the stoner or the alcoholic. Yeah they are in the minority, no one said otherwise. The problem with a movement is the abusers become the poster child for the opposition. Remember Occupy Wallstreet? Did they show the suit and tie protestors? No...they showed the drum circle hippies and the smelly weirdos. Why? Because they detract from the movement and the news is owned by corporations and the wealthy. Occupy Wallstreet made zero movement. Distance yourselves from the stoners or tell them to focus. I have no dog in this fight so I don't care what happens...just dishing out the awful truth. Otherwise it's just a drum circle.

I'll put this plainly.

Most drug addicts are addicted to a basic feeling.

A stoner is hooked on an altered perception/perspective, increased enjoyment of mundane activities and an overall greater sense of appreciation for life.

It's misguided at best to group cannabis in with other drugs which are primarily about a rush of basic euphoria.

We get it. You hate hippies. But it's 2015, the average stoner isn't a smelly, unemployed dropout with a tie dye shirt. There are people of all professions who enjoy smoking on a daily basis. They just know advertising that fact is going to attract the wrong attention.

 

[DarkSentinel]

Just look up "Spirit Science" on YouTube, XB.

 

[VictusMortuus]

As someone who likes to occasionally smoke I would love for it to be legalized at a federal level for recreational use, however I actually agree with Obama about it really not being a pressing issue. Yes, it's costing the country a lot of money throwing people in jail for various pot related incidents, but it's not like those people are unaware that they're taking a risk doing whatever they did to wind up arrested. If some people are really so adamant about smoking without consequences, save up some money and move to wherever it's legalized, or simply stop smoking.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Whether people are aware that smoking has consequences is not really the point. Vast sums of money are being spent funding the enforcement of stupid laws that could be utilized much more wisely elsewhere, not to mention millions of people who could benefit medically from cannabis if only they had access. So sorry Big O, I do consider that a pressing issue for sure.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

As someone who likes to occasionally smoke I would love for it to be legalized at a federal level for recreational use, however I actually agree with Obama about it really not being a pressing issue. Yes, it's costing the country a lot of money throwing people in jail for various pot related incidents, but it's not like those people are unaware that they're taking a risk doing whatever they did to wind up arrested. If some people are really so adamant about smoking without consequences, save up some money and move to wherever it's legalized, or simply stop smoking.

Lets say oral sex was illegal.

Would it be more reasonable:

A) To expect everyone who enjoys oral sex to move away from jobs, family, and home to another state.

B) To expect everyone to give up oral sex for their entire lives because of a stupid law.

C) Or to simply demand the government change the stupid law

 

[VictusMortuus]

I'm not saying it's not something I'd want to see legalized asap, I just think matters related to the saving the environment, healthcare, tax inequality and social issues such as racism and homophobia etc... Should all be pushed to the front of the line. Because ultimately those are all things that affect a wider margin of people than being able to get high. Unfortunately with the people currently in charge of our country these are problems that won't be solved anytime soon, and yes, the legalization would generate a good tax revenue for the government and help to lower the amount of people being thrown in jail for small pot crimes... I was going somewhere with this, (smoke a little bit.) I don't know about you dudes and dudettes but I do declare, LEGALIZE IT!!!!

 

[Moridin]

I'm not generalizing the group

Followed quickly by...

...All stoners are stupid.

FYI, that's a generalisation.

If you need weed in your life everyday, you waste thousands of dollars a year on weed, you spend a lot of time in doors in a hazy room watching cartoons, and/or you live with your parents and light up daily

Or maybe you have a chronic ailment & find pot is a better treatment than pharma drugs.

...those are the stereotypical stoners and those people are idiots akin to alcoholics or drug abusers. Same symptoms, different substance. When marijuana is your life, then you have personal issues. I have no problems calling those people stoopid.

There's that stereotyping again.

I agree that too much of anything probably isn't good, but implying Cannabis dependance is anywhere near as destructive as Alcoholism is silly.

I haven't called anyone here stupid so stop with the defensiveness.

You quoted XtremelyBaneful and said "This is the problem with weed legalization".

Defensiveness is quite understandable when you push into a thread (that you admit you have no interest in) and tell everyone "you're doing it wrong" with a very condescending attitude.

Lol at the attempt to equate weed to Civil Rights.

Lol at attempting to minimise the issue. The illegality of drugs (all of them) is a massive human rights issue. It's not simply about some end-users who want to get high legally (though, again, personal freedom is a valid bullet point for the pro-legal cause).

The Global illicit drugs trade is worth over $400 BILLION per year. Pretty much all of that is going to violent cartels. What do you suppose those cartels are doing with that kind of money (read as: Power)? I'll give you an idea; between 2006 & 2012 over 60,000 (!) people in Mexico were killed in Drug Cartel wars/the War on Drugs.

Prohibition of drugs funds this destruction in Mexico/South America & indeed all over the world. (I've previously recommended a documentary called Opium Brides)

The medical side of it. How many people are suffering because they don't have access to a plant that would actually work for them?

Then there's the racist aspect of it (& a big reason it's illegal in the first place). In the US & UK (don't know about anywhere else) minorities are far more likely to get arrested for possession than whites, even thought use is pretty much the same.

A pothead is the same as an alcoholic.

The factors leading to someone toking or drinking every day might be the same or similar, but the use of those drugs doesn't tend to produce "the same" behaviour & certainly doesn't produce the same health risks.

I have no dog in this fight so I don't care what happens...just dishing out the awful truth. Otherwise it's just a drum circle.

Oh wondrous Chaseter, who came from on high (pun intended) to hand down knowledge of The Awful Truth to us Stoopid Stoner Plebs, even though you apparently have no f***s to give on this particular issue,.... how can we ever repay thee for thine glorious knowledge?

I'm not saying it's not something I'd want to see legalized asap, I just think matters related to the saving the environment, healthcare, tax inequality and social issues such as racism and homophobia etc... Should all be pushed to the front of the line. Because ultimately those are all things that affect a wider margin of people than being able to get high.

As I said above, this isn't just about the end user getting high without trouble from the cops. The reach of the War on Drugs f**king faaaar, & includes racism, economy, health, education, environment, violence & terror.

I touched on racism above, disproportionate application of the law, targeting minorities.

Economy? Colorado made $60 million plus in tax last year from legal weed. Just this January their education system benefited to the tune of $2.3m (on a population of 5.2m).

They also created over 10,000 new jobs last year. That's 10,000+ new tax payers.

Money saved in the Justice System? Up to $40m saved in Colorado in lack of arrests & prosecutions.

Healthcare? Cannabis treats a huge range of ailments. It's an anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, neuro-protective, pain reliever, anti-psychotic, anti-epileptic, among other things, is cheap to produce and doesn't come with the laundry list of dangerous side-effects most Pharma drugs come with.

In Colorado, violent crime is down, traffic accidents are near an all time low, youth access is down 25%... This is all saving money for the health system

Environment? Industrial hemp, which was largely outlawed along with Cannabis, would be beneficial to the environment. As a crop, it's very low maintenance & grows almost anywhere, fast growing, high quality. Can be used for highly nutritious food, high quality clothes + building materials, bio-fuels (that are 90% plus cleaner than petroleum). Every piece of the plant can be used for something, there's no waste, it's stupidly versatile & non-toxic to the environment.

This dude is making a 4-seater plane out of 75% hemp, and it'll run on hemp bio-fuel.
https://www.facebook.com/WorldsFirstHempPlane

Moving building & paper production over to Hemp (which, by the way is a big reason it's illegal in the first place) would cut into deforestation.

There was a recent discovery where scientists found that waste Hemp/Cannabis materials can be made into super-capacitors that are as good or better than graphene for one thousandth the price.
http://www.gizmag.com/hemp-high-performance-supercapacitor/33435/

For the food aspect alone I'd argue it'd be a huge benefit to 3rd world countries, throw in everything else? Cheap, low maintenance crop that grows pretty much anywhere & can be used as high quality food, clothing, building materials & medicine?


The illegality of drugs (ALL drugs) is a gigantic issue, it's not just about some folk getting high.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

 

[VictusMortuus]

Yea, after doing some research it would actually be super beneficial for an assortment of reasons to legalize it, and a fairly simple process of reclassifying it and throwing a tax on it like alcohol/tobacco products. That is to say what should be simple, is not due to the indecisive constantly arguing buffoons in charge of our country.

And to the poster calling all stoners dumb, what is classified as a stoner? Surely you realize that there are quite a few doctors, professors, etc... Who smoke pot, who I certainly wouldn't call dumb. Also the use of the word "Stoner," is kind of an insult to a lot of smokers, it's like calling people who drink occasionally drunks.