Apocalypse Let's talk about the X-Director, Bryan Singer Thread

[marvelrobbins]

based on latest box office I think SInger is done in franchise and that's a
shame.that doesn't mean Kinberg will be gone.for some strange reason
studios keeping hiring him.

The odds of reboot after wolverine drops next march Is going up.Yeah there
will be another deadpool film but besides that who knows.and deadpool can easily be retconned as being part of reboot series not the exsisting series
of 6 X-men films and 3 wolverine films.

 

[Serpico Jones]

I think Singer will be back. Whether or not that's a good thing is up for debate.

 

[psyonic]

If anyone at Fox frequent these forums, I think they will know that us fans know Kinberg is a bad writer, many of us want him gone as a writer. I don't want to mess with anyone's livelihood but I think he'll survive with his millions. His track record with X3, F4 and now Apocalypse confirms he IS a bad writer. I think his hand in the success of DoFP was minimal.

Kinberg admitting to writing in Psylocke/casting Olivia Munn because he needed a Horseman at the last minute to replace Xavier and because he saw a fan photo manip of her on the internet shows he doesn't put much thought into it. Psylocke wasn't even a good choice for a Horseman. Neither was Storm.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I think Singer will be back. Whether or not that's a good thing is up for debate.

As one who wants him back I am very doudtful on that.

for some strange reason fox would rather replace singer and keep Kinberg.

I think a reboot,which i don't want,Is very much on the table.

I don't think they will announce anything this week on X-men.hell we still
know nothing on wolverine.they still won't even just confirm Patrick Stewart
Is in film.and we have no idea what fox is planning to release from X-men in october 2017,january 2018,and july 2018.Now my feeling has been it's Gambit,Deadpool sequel,and new mutants in those slots but who knows.

with this box office after wolverine drops the only X_men releted film you should really count on is deadpool sequel.

 

[Sithborg]

Singer was taking a break anyway. And even if Apocalypse is a disappointment, Fox is not going to outright get rid of the man who gave them X1, X2, and DOFP. I don't think you truly understand the politics of filmmaking.

It's why Kinberg is relatively unscathed compared to Trank.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Sony was originally going to Spider-man 4 and reboot back to back and then
they scrapped SPider-man 4.

Singer may have returned for next X-men film after doing 20,000 leagues under the sea.especilly since that film is being made by Fox but that is likely
not going to happen now.Fox could even reboot.

Singer should just walk away and then people will see how X-men films with kinberg mostly running things will go.

People already now want to give vaughn all the credit for first class and DOFP.
Vaughn with first class made the most mess with contunity than anyone.

and getting people like Joss Whedon or Tim Miller to do X-men and you might as well reboot anyway.WHedon would make the AOU of X-men films.and with miller say goodbye to darkness and seriouness of X-Men.

 

[2kt09]

David hayters favourite character is wolverine

Dunno why he isn't involved with Wolverine III if that's the case.

 

[GuestStar2004]

They won't fully throw singer out the door but i could see him staying on as producer, he wouldn't pressure whoever the director is to do it his way so its fine but there probably needs to be some new blood here, let singer look at the script and possibly give some notes but let the director do his thing like vaughn did.

 

[Johnny-Oh]

I love Bryan Singer and I think he's done a great job, Apocalypse was underwhelming but I don't think he deserves the hate he gets. I do think its time for a new director though, allow the franchise to be something different. Singer and Vaughn can't be the only directors capable of doing good X-Men movies.

 

[marvelrobbins]

They won't fully throw singer out the door but i could see him staying on as producer, he wouldn't pressure whoever the director is to do it his way so its fine but there probably needs to be some new blood here, let singer look at the script and possibly give some notes but let the director do his thing like vaughn did.

I can see them doing it.and as fan of singer i say he should walk away if he doesn't direct next X-men film.Noone wants to give singer any credit for
first class.some even use the film to bash him.but,if they have any problems with first class it's all him and not vaughn.hell some try to say DOFP was
good only because Vaughn helped devolp the story.

 

[marvelrobbins]

I love Bryan Singer and I think he's done a great job, Apocalypse was underwhelming but I don't think he deserves the hate he gets. I do think its time for a new director though, allow the franchise to be something different. Singer and Vaughn can't be the only directors capable of doing good X-Men movies.

most of the names brought up-Vaughn,Miller,Whedon,J.J. Abrams,Christopher
Mcquarre would basicly be reboots.Out of possibiltys only Mcquarre and Matt Reeves would do actual sequel to FC triloly.the rest would be so radical different it might as well as reboot.with Kinberg almost certinly writing next
film very doudtful Mcquarre or whedon would be directing as they would insist with writing.

even on SHH X-men board many won't be sastified till they are making X_men films like MCU.

 

[Havok83]

He needs to go. Highly overrated. Im ready for a NEW vision bc Im tired of his

 

[Electrix]

Singer has a strong relationship with Fox and he's had a solid track record delivering critically acclaimed X-Men films (even just as a producer for First Class).

Fox won't be booting him, but with him directing 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea Fox may take the opportunity to bring in another director and have Singer produce.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Singer has a strong relationship with Fox and he's had a solid track record delivering critically acclaimed X-Men films (even just as a producer for First Class).

Fox won't be booting him, but with him directing 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea Fox may take the opportunity to bring in another director and have Singer produce.

I don't think he will be involved at all with next X-men film after critics helped kill Apocalypse.as fan of his i say he shouldn't even produce.he won't get any credit by most people so he should just leave it to kinberg.

 

[fallenAngel]

I think as long as Fox stops rushing the production schedule on some of these (having some spin-offs may help them ease up a bit on the core ensemble films), there are probably plenty of writers and directors who could add new blood, but still keep things feeling like the same universe.

I'd like to see someone other than Singer in the director's chair, however. He's done a great job IMO, but four movies is pushing it for anyone to stay creatively fresh and the ending to Apocalypse definitely showed signs of fatigue.

 

[Mike Murdock]

After seeing the RT scores, I was expecting to vote "kick him out" (or, actually, I was going to suggest giving him a smaller spinoff movie). But I don't feel that way anymore.

I don't think choreographing action is his strength. But I feel that's a small problem to fix given all the other things he did right.

 

[Lip]

This is a part of an old interview with Bryan Singer and that's what he had to say about the complaints the fans have about Wolverine being always the focus:

Singer thinks this is the case with the MCU, implying that Iron Man is the centre piece of the that universe.“The Avengers is a mash-up of massive single character franchises of incredibly familiar characters and Iron Man. And did I mention Iron Man? Oh, and by the way – Iron Man. What's interesting here is that Iron Man didn't even have the most screen time in that movie. Singer added, “They are huge, colossal franchises that are peppered with all these other characters that are, again, extremely famous and so yes, Fox will at some point synergise [the X-Men] characters and that process is slowly beginning, but it’s very different than taking movies that gross close to a billion dollars and then pushing them together into these giant broad movies. “If you want to give me Robert Downey Jr in a metal suit and have him join the X-Men, then yes, let’s go head-to-head [with Marvel Studios].” Would you guys love to see Iron Man in Fox's X-Men universe? Hugh Jackman has been expressing interest in an X-Men and Avengers cross over. It's unlikely to happen but a fan can dream right?

“It’s very different universes,” said the director. “The appeal is different and to try and do the same thing… this in an ‘inbetweequel’, OK, of two ensemble films, Avengers and the Marvel movies are individual franchises based on major characters that’s why there are some Marvel characters in Avengers that don’t have their own movie, because I don’t know if they had their own movie anyone would be that interested. Singer continued to talk about how the average joe will not recognise the other X-Men characters outside of Wolverine, “We’re the bastard stepchild of the comic-book universe, you can go to my mom and she knows who Captain America is but you try and explain to her who Deadpool is? She doesn’t even know the Hulk – ‘You know, the Hulk! Green! Big guy!’ – so Gambit?

Singer is undeniably a good director, but I just want him to go as soon as possible. I really want a new director and a creative team who loves those characters, and can see greatness and potential to each and everyone of them, because the X-Men is full of rich and amazing characters.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Apocalypse box office is going to make sure you get your wish.but your stuck with kinberg.and next director may not be better.

 

[Lip]

Yes, the next director may not be better, but Singer is not the only director in the world who can make a good X-Men movie. Let's try another one.

And I want Kinberg gone too.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Yes, the next director may not be better, but Singer is not the only director in the world who can make a good X-Men movie. Let's try another one.

And I want Kinberg gone too.

Kinberg won't be gone.that is clear if FF didn't get him in trouble apocalypse
won't

 

[Lip]

Kinberg won't be gone.that is clear if FF didn't get him in trouble apocalypse
won't

A man can dream.

And as much as I want to, I don't think Singer is leaving too.

 

[DavidHaller]

I think Singer should stay if the topic of the next movie fits his political tone and interests! Give "X-Tinction Agenda" or "Mutant Massacre" to Singer.

But choose someone else if it is CGI heavy like "The Dark Phoenix Saga" etc.

 

[Saitou Hajime]

Avengers;Age of ultron is big reason why I don't want Whedon anywhere near X-Men.the entire party scenirco is way too cheesy.

IMO the party scene is one of the reasons that makes Whedon perfect for this franchise. X-Men could use some scenes of them chilling out and goofing around like in the comics. I mean we got six main movies and still no softball game.

 

[marvelrobbins]

A man can dream.

And as much as I want to, I don't think Singer is leaving too.

as Probally SInger's biggest fan on these boards i think he is defently gone
with apocalypse underperforming.

 

[Sithborg]

He was gone well before the release. He has done too much for the franchise for Fox to just kick him out forever.

But, he definitely needs a break. I loved Apocalypse and the final scene, but it worries me he may make the action a bit too much "beam spammy".